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#1 philhitchings

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 15:13

Another winter in the North and another Dakar is less than 3 weeks away :) :clap: :clap:

Whilst it's the same 3 countries as last year, the route is different. Beginning in Lima, Peru, then travelling over 8000kms to Santiago in Chile via Argentina (which will also host the rest day. (Day 8 this year!! :eek: ). 5th-20th January

Runners and riders here Whilst the usual suspects appear ready to give us a an exciting couple of weeks, I'll be cheering for Sam Sunderland and James West as well :)


Is there anyone that you will be watching out for?


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#2 jonpollak

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 16:33

ROBBY and his crusade against the French.
Jp


#3 MadYarpen

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 18:35

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Hołowczyc is my man :up: Also fighting against French. As everyone except... French :/

#4 EightGear

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 18:46

Hopefully Bernhard ten Brinke can surpise us! And El Matador (Sainz) should do well!

#5 PEW

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 19:57

Mini in the car section
Tatra in the trucks
Depres v Comas in the bikes
Those cute Argentinians :blush: in the Quads

#6 loki

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:09

ROBBY and his crusade against the French.



"la résistance est futile, vous serez assimilés"

#7 philhitchings

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 07:25

"la résistance est futile, vous serez assimilés"


Mais oui Jean Luc

#8 petercar41

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:07

Marc Coma will not be in the Dakar this year.

Hopefully the Husqvarna boys will put some preasure on Cyril and I hope Chaleco Lopez and Ullevalseter as well .

Will follow Laia Sanz with the Gas Gas bike….

The minis and Al-Attiya / Carlos Sainz buggy


#9 275 GTB-4

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:17

Mais oui Jean Luc


mais ne mentionnez pas la guerre ! :)

#10 pingu666

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:46

why no marc coma?

stumbled apon this

http://www.race-deze...r-2013-FOR-SALE

1.5mill usd to run the dakar in a top car. all in.



#11 loki

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:00

why no marc coma?

stumbled apon this

http://www.race-deze...r-2013-FOR-SALE

1.5mill usd to run the dakar in a top car. all in.


Coma is recovering from a shoulder injury he sustained in Morocco. He says he's not 100% yet but plans to race as soon as he can.

Not a bad deal for a full ride with an RGM car. It doesn't look like anyone bought the ride.

#12 loki

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:12

In the US you can find the rally on NBCSports like on Versus in previous years. The half hour highlight show starts Sun Jan 6 at 2:30 AM EST. On DirecTV NBCSports is now on channel 220 in the block with ESPN and NFL Network.

http://affiliate.zap...ally/EP00350019

#13 MadYarpen

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:57

What do you guys think about al-attiyah/sainz buggies? I mean it was built in 4 months or something, Carlos wasn't happy after recent tests. And Minis/hummer/even hilux took much much longer time to develop. True, regulations give them some advantages, but somehow I can't imagine these buggies will be any kind of threat. Even provided that they don't fall apart after 5 days.

#14 H2H

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:10

The Buggies have obvioulsy wheel size and suspension travel on their side which gives them the edge at certain days. Personally I dislike the regulations which force the 4x4 to run with such small wheels and short suspension travels, it just seems against the spirit of the Dakar which pits technology against the wild. Banning too expensive stuff is fine but in this case it is clearly only all about giving 4x2 a chance. And who in his right mind would not go for a 4x4 for certain tracks...

Cetero censeo Robby Gordon is a cheating poor loser.

Edited by H2H, 02 January 2013 - 09:11.


#15 MadYarpen

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:07

To me there are much more cheating from French organizers...

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:19

Coma is recovering from a shoulder injury he sustained in Morocco. He says he's not 100% yet but plans to race as soon as he can.

Not a bad deal for a full ride with an RGM car. It doesn't look like anyone bought the ride.


Well Coma is away, but the good part is that this year there will be no cheats from the organizers! The frenchies will not need to gift Despres the Dakar title like previous years!


#17 MadYarpen

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:22

I hope that this year, for a change, vehicles legal in 2012 will be legal too.

#18 H2H

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:31

To me there are much more cheating from French organizers...


Over the years certainly and I some of the old anger returns when I start to think about certain decisions in certain years... I would love to have a more international team handling the Dakar, such a national bias has done no sport much good.

In any case I still dislike Gordon, as a sportsman, not as a driver.

#19 jonpollak

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:44

Here's the focus of your revulsion in smack-talkin' mode

Jp

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#20 condor

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:08

British Eurosport seems to only have very limited coverage ( far worse than previous years!) - Is the dakar being shown on any other UK available TV station?

#21 dank

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:41

British Eurosport seems to only have very limited coverage ( far worse than previous years!) - Is the dakar being shown on any other UK available TV station?


They've got a 30 mins highlights programme everyday, with the occasional 'live' show as well, so no worse than previous years?

#22 condor

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:50

I thought it was nearly an hours programme in previous years - the cars, bikes and trucks...then interviews from the Bivouac (sp?)

It used to be on around 10pm and a repeat the following morning around 7am. From the TV listing I've seen it's on at 0030 and no repeat the following morning.

#23 dank

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:53

It's been 30 mins for a few years now. Highlights programme is on 22:00 most days and appears to be repeated between midnight and 00:30 the following day.

#24 condor

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 14:55

I will blame the TV guide then for publishing misinformation. :mad:

Cheers Dank for enlightening me :up:

#25 dank

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 16:19

Dakar Android app. There's also one available for the iPhone, too.

Honestly though, it was pretty useless last year, constantly crashing and providing dated information, which have hopefully been ironed out for this year's event.

Edited by dank, 03 January 2013 - 16:19.


#26 H2H

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 17:04

Here's the focus of your revulsion in smack-talkin' mode

Jp


Thanks. My sights are trained :smoking:

Still loved the driving part over those huge jumps...

#27 jonpollak

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 17:15

Hold on there condor..This is British EUROSPORT we are talking about here.
The world's most random and unpredictable scheduling which is all overthrown when someone in VT decides... play the snooker for the next 3 hrs.

Jp

#28 pingu666

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 21:07

fyi robby didnt cheat, the hummer passed all the tests, (even stall test) and they even disconnected the system entirely and still just as fast.

and did the fia and aso do anything after the rally with the superbad mr nasty cheaty dude and his hax cheaty thing?

nope

they did nothing for 3 months or more after the rally, and its been quietly dropped




#29 pingu666

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 21:09

http://www.topgear.c...ally-2013-01-03 more positive note :)

#30 MadYarpen

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 21:41

http://www.topgear.c...ally-2013-01-03 more positive note :)


I support them with all my heart!

#31 midgrid

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 21:57

I can't follow this event live, but I'm looking forward to the usual draw-dropping photos and videos being posted!

#32 condor

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:20

Hold on there condor..This is British EUROSPORT we are talking about here.
The world's most random and unpredictable scheduling which is all overthrown when someone in VT decides... play the snooker for the next 3 hrs.

Jp



I'll be watching it at 0730 every morning - expecting the 10pm showing will probably be delayed :D

#33 cravenciak

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 13:34

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Hołowczyc during shakedown.

#34 stuck-in-first-gear

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 15:08

One of my colleagues has entered the bike competition.

It is his first Dakar and he is one of only two guys to ride a BMW - his goal is obviously to make it til the end :)

#35 Smile17

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 15:29

What's a Dakar without Marc Coma? I always loved the soap-opera around him and Despres. The rest is dull.

#36 loki

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:45

Here's the focus of your revulsion in smack-talkin' mode



I like Robby but if I were driving a Hummer I don't know that I'd be calling the other guy's car ugly...

The Qatar Red Bull buggies were made by Damen Jeffries down the road a piece in Apple Valley, CA.

http://www.jefferiesracing.com/

Edited by loki, 05 January 2013 - 03:45.


#37 philhitchings

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 16:28

British Eurosport seems to only have very limited coverage ( far worse than previous years!) - Is the dakar being shown on any other UK available TV station?



Here's the Schedule so far from this forum http://advrider.com/...ad.php?t=851764

All Eurosport 1 except where shown as Eurosport 2

Tuesday January 01

22:45 Rally Dakar Rally: Road Book - Dakar Rally Road Book

Wednesday January 02

09:20 Rally Dakar Rally: Road Book - Dakar Rally Road Book

Saturday January 05

00:00 Rally Dakar Rally: Road Book - Dakar Rally Road Book

07:30 Rally Dakar Rally: Road Book - Dakar Rally Road Book

18:00 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Day 1

22:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 1

Sunday January 06

00:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 1

22:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 2

Monday January 07

00:15 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 2

07:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 2

19:00 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Stage 3

22:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 3

Tuesday January 08

00:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 3

07:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 3

16:15 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Stage 4 Eurosport 2


22:45 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 4

23:45 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 4

Wednesday January 09

07:45 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 4

22:35 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 5

Thursday January 10

00:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 5

07:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 5

18:45 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Stage 6

23:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 6

Friday January 11

00:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 6

07:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 6

18:45 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Day 7 Eurosport 2

22:15 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 7

Saturday January 12

00:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 7

18:15 Rally Live Dakar Rally - Stage 8 Eurosport 2

22:00 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 8

Sunday January 13

00:30 Rally Dakar Rally - Day 8

#38 philhitchings

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 16:40

Embedded stream player:
http://play.tuteve.tv/

I don't have a clue what's being said as I never did Spanish.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 17:51

Nobody's perfect, phil...  ;)

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#40 jonpollak

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 18:40

As predicted...
The first airing of todays Stage 1 has disappeared from Eurosport in favour of some thrilling biathlon dross.

Don't say I didn't warn ya

Jp

#41 philhitchings

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 20:13

Nobody's perfect, phil...  ;)


That makes me feel so much better :)

As predicted...
The first airing of todays Stage 1 has disappeared from Eurosport in favour of some thrilling biathlon dross.

Don't say I didn't warn ya

Jp


that doesn't.... But I'm still seeing Dakar after the tennis :)


#42 MadYarpen

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 21:50

what car numbers do race2recovery teams have?

#43 H2H

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 22:03


Oh I only saw it now.

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:lol:

It is all the fault of all the others!

#44 MadYarpen

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 22:06

well RG is already 30 mins behind, wonder what stopped him.

#45 scheivlak

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 22:25

well RG is already 30 mins behind, wonder what stopped him.

He got stranded

#46 jonpollak

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 22:59

Now I know I've always said I don't give a hoot about who commentates on what but...
OH SHIIIIT IT'S CARLTON KIRBY...
The worlds WORST commentator.

Think I'll go for the Spanish language broadcast as linked earlier...And THANK YOU very much for that.

Jp

#47 dweller23

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:09

I actually love Kirby's commentary for Dakar!

Anyway, funny thing that Ickx said that it's impossible to cheat in Dakar. I guess he didn't watch how organizers gave the bikes win to Despres last year...

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 06:28

what's up what Robby Gordon and his hatred toward MINI? He should tone down his driving aggressiveness, then he can win the Dakar.

#49 philhitchings

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 09:13

Oh Carlton does't bother me at all.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 14:12

Top-class Finnish programmer Mika Suominen works Qatar Red Bull Rally team.