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#1351 jrg19

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 20:50

Well at least the team has the fastest F1 driver.

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#1352 F1ultimate

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 20:56

Well at least the team has the fastest F1 driver.


I see what you did there. :cat:

It was interesting to hear that he hurt his legs a bit during the crash. Isn't there padding around the legs inside an F1 car?

#1353 Clatter

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 21:00

I see what you did there. :cat:

It was interesting to hear that he hurt his legs a bit during the crash. Isn't there padding around the legs inside an F1 car?


It will be minimal padding, there simply isn't the room to put much in. You will see quite a few drivers wearing strap-on padding around the knees as that area is in contact with the cockpit sides just about all the time.

#1354 dhill39

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 21:18

yes


Ok,thanks.

#1355 HanD

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 23:40

I'm just bring it to your attention, no need to get touchy.


That's because you are a troll with a condescending little Bisch attitude. You got called out, backtracked and then come back for more? Seriously...move on

#1356 Kvothe

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 13:43

So guys whats the testing schedule this week,is it Lewis or Nico first.


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#1357 jrg19

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 13:54

Looking forward to seeing new parts on the car this week.

#1358 F1ultimate

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 14:03

Looking forward to seeing new parts on the car this week.

Me too, but especially keen on seeing tire deg through the fast sweeping corners.

#1359 undersquare

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 14:25

ISTR left front is the problem at Barca.

We ought to get some clues about downforce, anyway.

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#1360 Juggles

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 14:42

ISTR left front is the problem at Barca.

We ought to get some clues about downforce, anyway.


Left front rather than right front? Purely from driving Catalunya on F1 2010 I remember thinking the sweeping, high downforce turns were left to right - i.e. right front being the inside wheel. Could be wrong though!

I really hope they get their rear tyre preservation up to the level of other teams.

Also, I thought the second test was next week, what a nice surprise.

#1361 Zava

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 14:48

Left front rather than right front? Purely from driving Catalunya on F1 2010 I remember thinking the sweeping, high downforce turns were left to right - i.e. right front being the inside wheel. Could be wrong though!

I really hope they get their rear tyre preservation up to the level of other teams.

Also, I thought the second test was next week, what a nice surprise.

yeah, but the outside is the more loaded side, hence front left.

#1362 Juggles

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 15:56

yeah, but the outside is the more loaded side, hence front left.


Wow, interesting, I thought it was the opposite. Does the weight of the car shift left around a right hand turn or something? Like when you turn right and your head swings to the left because it's still going in that direction?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 16:08

Wow, interesting, I thought it was the opposite. Does the weight of the car shift left around a right hand turn or something? Like when you turn right and your head swings to the left because it's still going in that direction?


Exactly, just like the weight shifts forward while braking and rearwards accelerating.

#1364 KnucklesAgain

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 20:58

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 21:26

Hello, Been waiting for a loooong time. Now, Merc need to develop the car to suit Mr Hamilton :eek: , Why ? You scream ! Why not just make the car faster "overall" ?
Well, 1:Nico's a fast guy but Lewis fast? Come on be realistic for a moment :| 2:Remember Last year, When Mr Button had his little slump upon returning to europe :( . Would this coincide with certain developments that, Let's say suited Lewis more than jenson ?. Now ! You shout, This is true of most drivers and I will agree, But lewis seems to pull more from a car that suits "his" driving style than most. I think a good illustation of this would be the Top Gear lap, Same car, same conditions but 1.1 seconds :stoned:.
If Merc can move foward even a little this year, Its not enough, Prep for 2014 be dammed :mad: . So lets hope they see how good he is when he can fully use the skills he was born with. Regards CSM.

#1366 Seanspeed

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 21:53

Hello, Been waiting for a loooong time. Now, Merc need to develop the car to suit Mr Hamilton :eek: , Why ? You scream ! Why not just make the car faster "overall" ?
Well, 1:Nico's a fast guy but Lewis fast? Come on be realistic for a moment :| 2:Remember Last year, When Mr Button had his little slump upon returning to europe :( . Would this coincide with certain developments that, Let's say suited Lewis more than jenson ?. Now ! You shout, This is true of most drivers and I will agree, But lewis seems to pull more from a car that suits "his" driving style than most. I think a good illustation of this would be the Top Gear lap, Same car, same conditions but 1.1 seconds :stoned:.
If Merc can move foward even a little this year, Its not enough, Prep for 2014 be dammed :mad: . So lets hope they see how good he is when he can fully use the skills he was born with. Regards CSM.

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#1367 ApexMouse

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 21:55

The sentiment is shared, but that's wearing rather thin quickly.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 21:56

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So Cool :clap:

#1369 oetzi

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 22:39

Nearly as cool as n-n-n-n-nineteen's spam x

#1370 chumma

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 00:01

oh jeeze....

#1371 BoschKurve

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 00:46

Left front rather than right front? Purely from driving Catalunya on F1 2010 I remember thinking the sweeping, high downforce turns were left to right - i.e. right front being the inside wheel. Could be wrong though!

I really hope they get their rear tyre preservation up to the level of other teams.

Also, I thought the second test was next week, what a nice surprise.


Most of the sweeping turns shift the weight to the left side at Catalunya. They're going to have their work cut out for them here. If they don't learn how to get the tire wear under control, it's going to be a long season.

#1372 BigCHrome

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:27

The car wants to keep going straight whenever you turn the wheel, which is why the weight shifts to the outside tire.



#1373 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:16

http://www.xpb.cc/th...0YW2Q2O_450.jpg

Heat protection on the rear of the car, makes it look crazy tight.

#1374 Markn93

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:22

Also DRD engine cover.

#1375 BigCHrome

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:22

I think it looks like they've gotten rid of the bulge around the gearbox, rather than the heat protection creating an optical illusion.

I'm still not too sure about the car, it doesn't pass the visual test for me compared to most other cars.

#1376 Timstr11

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:43

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#1377 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:49

Testing the DRD straight away too.

Lots of test sensors.

#1378 meddo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:50

New RW

#1379 Markn93

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:51

And the three winglets in front of the sidepod have become a single piece judging from jrg's photo.

Edited by Markn93, 19 February 2013 - 09:52.


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#1380 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:52

Does the bulge on the exhaust look like it got bigger?

#1381 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:55

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#1382 TF110

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:59

Love that front "Quin-wing"!

#1383 mlsnoopy

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:07

And the three winglets in front of the sidepod have become a single piece judging from jrg's photo.


No.

#1384 Markn93

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:09

Yeah can see from the front on pic.

#1385 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:09

This is not really car discussion it is blow-by-blow chatter about testing, please take it to the testing thread or http://live.autosport.com/

#1386 CHIUNDA

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:52

Has something broken on the Mercedes? It doesn't seem to be doing much running.

#1387 Juggles

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 13:20

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Haha, I deserve that, it was pretty dense. Thanks for the explanations Pretentious et al, when I think about it now it seems so obvious. Not a natural physicist as you may be able to tell...

#1388 Timstr11

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 13:35

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#1389 dhill39

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 13:55

Is it me,or does the car looks a lot simplier than most of the other cars,hope it works.love to see Lewis winning a few races.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:10

Is it me,or does the car looks a lot simplier than most of the other cars,hope it works.love to see Lewis winning a few races.


I think everyone wants it to look simple more than anything, maybe just because of the reputation they've gained over the last couple of years. :lol:

I can't help but feel that if Red Bull had released this car there would be some people calling it refined and detailed ;)

Anyway, good to see Nico back on track.

Edited by Brandz07, 19 February 2013 - 14:15.


#1391 CHIUNDA

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:16

Looks like reliability issues affecting today's testing programme. Wonder what it is.

#1392 Markn93

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:18

I think everyone wants it to look simple more than anything, maybe just because of the reputation they've gained over the last couple of years. :lol:

I can't help but feel that if Red Bull had released this car there would be some people calling it refined and detailed ;)

Anyway, good to see Nico back on track.

You may well have a point.

#1393 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:20

The problem is that its silver, it F'd old Michael for 3 years and almost everyone hates Lewis = Looks simple.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:49

Is it me,or does the car looks a lot simplier than most of the other cars,hope it works.love to see Lewis winning a few races.


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#1395 Markn93

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:56

1 24.0 , hards, with at least 16 laps of fuel. At the very least this car's definitely got a bit of pace.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:00

Also interesting groove over the top of the sidepod/exhaust, presumably to aid the accuracy of exhaust flow. Do other teams have this?

Pics, http://img3.auto-mot...cd9f-662078.jpg and http://img1.auto-mot...468b-662240.jpg

#1397 Lamag

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:11

1m23.046s from Vettel was on hard tires and at least six laps of fuel.

Edit.

Rosberg 1m23.879 on hard tires and at least seven laps of fuel.

Edited by Lamag, 19 February 2013 - 15:30.


#1398 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:15

1m23.046s from Vettel was on hard tires and at least six laps of fuel.


How much would you say a lap of fuel cost in time? 1 tenth/2 tenths?

#1399 Lamag

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:35

According to James Allen on his website.

Fuel effect (cost in lap time per 10kg of fuel carried): 0.40 seconds

http://www.jamesalle...h-at-barcelona/

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#1400 jrg19

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:44

W04 tops the times.

Tyres anyone?