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#351 JRizzle86

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 22:30

WOW Thanks guys!!!!!


3 of the 4 released cars sporting them.

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#352 jrg19

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:09

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#353 amppatel

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:14

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Cool idea:

the more you tweet #F1W04Reveal the quicker we will see the car, starting from Saturday, 16:00

#354 jrg19

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:15

So we see the car today :D

#355 apoka

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:58

It looks like an improvement over their previous challengers, although the nose is similar:

http://i1108.photobu...sq/6753-1-f.jpg


#356 seahawk

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:59

The nose surely looks a little out of place. Apart from that it reminds me of the double floor design from TorroRosso.

#357 ivand911

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:01

Exhaust area looks similar to Ferrari F138? Did Costa designed it together with his old colleagues? :)

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#358 bub

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:05

Like the looks. Looks kinda tough. Hope it's competitive.

#359 Timstr11

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:28

Toto Ross Fry Hamilton:
https://pbs.twimg.co...ARlj2.jpg:large

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#360 Matt Somers

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:29

I've put together a quick analysis of the W04 if anyone is interested Mercedes W04 Analysis

#361 rhukkas

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:30

Toto Ross Fry Hamilton:
https://pbs.twimg.co...ARlj2.jpg:large



Wonder what they are looking at? http://i238.photobuc...brownbutton.jpg;)

#362 Timstr11

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:33

Live launch:

http://www.youtube.c...EDESAMGPETRONAS

#363 BernieEc

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:35

I've put together a quick analysis of the W04 if anyone is interested Mercedes W04 Analysis


You along with Scarbs are fast becoming indispensable to F1 forumers like me.

:up: :up: here's to appreciating all your efforts

#364 Masenco

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:41

I've put together a quick analysis of the W04 if anyone is interested Mercedes W04 Analysis


thankyou :)

#365 Owen

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:43

I've put together a quick analysis of the W04 if anyone is interested Mercedes W04 Analysis

:up: thanks top work again

#366 Matt Somers

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:59

Thanks guys, glad you enjoy my stuff. Worth checking back later in the day as I always tend to miss something the first time around and then update the article once I realise it

#367 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:04

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#368 Shiroo

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:21

Oh man. Car aint that bad looking. But THAT NOSE. Why each year their nose decrease the look of the car so badly. Sweet jesus, simply how they can make so ugly noses. It is quite an achievement tbh

#369 Owen

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:22

Gary Anderson is about to publish a damning review of this car.

Edited by Owen, 04 February 2013 - 13:23.


#370 tarmac

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:24

Anderson will be harsh

#371 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:24

I've put together a quick analysis of the W04 if anyone is interested Mercedes W04 Analysis


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Really like the sculpted area under the gear box, and the shrouded wishbone.

#372 BernieEc

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:25

Gary Anderson is about to publish a damning review of this car.

Oh dear!!!!

#373 slmk

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:25

Gary Anderson is about to publish a damning review of this car.


Isn't he the guy who said that the MP4-27 was doomed?

Edited by slmk, 04 February 2013 - 13:27.


#374 SunnyENTP

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:31

Isn't he the guy who said that the MP4-27 was doomed?



That should be a good omen then :lol:

#375 meddo

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:33

Blackberry. Lauda. Mercedes. To many minuses to gather a plus....
OMG Lewis.

#376 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:35

When compared with last years car this looks a massive step forward.

#377 Cool Beans

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:35

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Looks like the nose doesn't quite fit the chassis. Simply a launch nose or chassis I guess?

#378 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:36


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credit to FrukostScones on F1tech for the two pictures.

#379 Owen

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:37

http://www.bbc.co.uk...la-one/21322248

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#380 slmk

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:41

Read Gary's analysis. He should wait until they hit the track before spitting his stuff.

Edited by slmk, 04 February 2013 - 13:42.


#381 bonjon1979a

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:45

Read Gary's analysis. He should wait until they hit the track before spitting his stuff.

Surely the fact that this car is designed around the Coanda exhaust which the other car wasn't should provide a lot of the change? It's quite fundamental to go from no blown diffuser to a blown one. We'll see though, the biggest worry for Merc is whether or not the car eats tyres like it was sometimes prone to doing.

#382 Kerch

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:45

I'm sure Gary Anderson knows that he has no real clue about the performance of a car just from glancing at it, but he has to write something that sounds vaguely believable because that's what the BBC pay him for.

#383 Elissa

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:46

Isn't he the guy who said that the MP4-27 was doomed?



Read Gary's analysis. He should wait until they hit the track before spitting his stuff.


GA gives me the impression of someone who's annoyed he's no longer in F1, he seems unduly scathing and harsh on certain teams. IRC there were a few times last year he would be hammering Lewis/McLaren strategy amongst others during the race, only to eat his words come the end when they won.

I respect his viewpoints and opinions but I do remember to engage the bias filter!! Then again I do that for anyone speaking in F1

Edited by Elissa, 04 February 2013 - 13:50.


#384 pRy

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:46

Read Gary's analysis. He should wait until they hit the track before spitting his stuff.


He's entitled to express his opinion. I'd rather he give his view now than wait for the testing to avoid being wrong.

#385 Peat

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:58

Of course he is scathing. Brackley F1/Merc have employed/approached just about every bit of F1 technical personnel and haven't asked him!

#386 Massa

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:59

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These sidepods looks like F2012 sidepods

#387 Brandz07

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 13:59

Some more quotes from the team.

http://www.crash.net...tm_campaign=rss

#388 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:03

http://i.imgur.com/CEa4YFq.jpg
Brake ducts.

http://i.imgur.com/v2LoDCM.jpg
Exhaust/gearbox area

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#389 JRizzle86

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:06

Does Anderson have a point with regard to the nose. I thought the aim was to keep air flow disruption away from the wheels and the general technique to stop this is to either have a flat nose or ridges down the side of the nose.

Surely the curved nose profile will only make this issue worse.

#390 dau

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:19

Isn't he the guy who said that the MP4-27 was doomed?

No, he didn't. IIRC he said the car was solid rather than spectacular - which it was - that the launch exhaust spec looked so simple that it obviously wasn't final - which it wasn't - and that he was surprised about the low nose because he didn't think it was the best possible solution - and in fact, McLaren changed to a high nose in the early part of the season.

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#391 Matt Somers

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:31

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credit to FrukostScones on F1tech for the two pictures.


The top image is the W03 ;) Downwash exhaust and step nose give it away. The holes in the cooling section were the DDRS tubing and the lower hole was a way the team exploited being able to drive more air centrally that they can't now as they've lowered the gearbox/crash structure

#392 Timstr11

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:33

http://i.imgur.com/v2LoDCM.jpg
Exhaust/gearbox area

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That cooling exit is exceptionally low right over the diffuser edge. Have not see it this low before.

#393 SunnyENTP

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:34

Does Anderson have a point with regard to the nose. I thought the aim was to keep air flow disruption away from the wheels and the general technique to stop this is to either have a flat nose or ridges down the side of the nose.

Surely the curved nose profile will only make this issue worse.



Amazing how all those highly paid technical heavy weights hired by Merc could not even realise this.

#394 Timstr11

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:39

F1 tech has moved on considerably since Mr Anderson was last involved in F1.
Don't take him seriously. I don't.

#395 SCEPurple

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:42

No, he didn't. IIRC he said the car was solid rather than spectacular - which it was - that the launch exhaust spec looked so simple that it obviously wasn't final - which it wasn't - and that he was surprised about the low nose because he didn't think it was the best possible solution - and in fact, McLaren changed to a high nose in the early part of the season.


Not related to the W04, but I thought this was due to an FIA inspection asking them to change what they were doing with (iirc) the floor... It was around 3 races in, shortly after that was when JB started having trouble heating the front tyres in Quali.

Could be wrong, it was a while ago.

#396 DutchCruijff

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:44

Ahh, I miss the Schumster. :|

#397 JRizzle86

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:57

Amazing how all those highly paid technical heavy weights hired by Merc could not even realise this.


I feel more confident now that i know all those highly paid technical heavy weights are at Merc. The car will surely be the top of the class.

#398 BernieEc

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:59

I feel more confident now that i know all those highly paid technical heavy weights are at Merc. The car will surely be the top of the class.


I admire your enthusiasm :)

#399 jrg19

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:00

That cooling exit is exceptionally low right over the diffuser edge. Have not see it this low before.


Yeah over on f1tech, some good images of it lightened up some very strange shapes going on at the back.

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#400 JRizzle86

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:04

I admire your enthusiasm :)


Doesn't take much to convince me.