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#1 Happs

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 03:26

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The Current IndyCar is hideous. But when they unveiled the Dallara there was a beautiful looking version as well. Use this one next season. Looks just as good as an F1 car if not better!!

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#2 Muppetmad

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 07:02

Last year's IndyCar was their saviour - it produced phenomenal racing. It was my favourite season since I started watching in 2009. If it isn't broken, don't fix it. It may not be the most aesthetically pleasing car (although I wouldn't say it's hideous), but it gets the job done.

Edited by Muppetmad, 01 January 2013 - 07:03.


#3 V8 Fireworks

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 15:23

Looks just as good as an F1 car if not better!!

Are you sure about the F1 cars looking good?

It is a small shame they did not chose the elegant Lola chassis, and put "8" as the maximum number of cylinders.

The cars do sound and look lacking, if compared directly to Panoz DP01.

2.65 V8 (with rev limit) http://www.youtube.c...E82CEBEFF354AA7
2.2 V6

#4 Radoye

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 19:13

I thought the current DW12 Indycars were a bit of an ugly duckling until i first saw them in person. They actually look like proper modern race cars, and what is even more important they behave on track like a proper race car unlike the old Dallaras. Even the rear bumper thingie doesn't look that bad actually, even if it is different from the usual and takes a bit of getting used to.

#5 Risil

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 19:17

More power/less grip needed on road courses, worry about prettiness later.

#6 Victor_RO

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:50

I thought the current DW12 Indycars were a bit of an ugly duckling until i first saw them in person. They actually look like proper modern race cars, and what is even more important they behave on track like a proper race car unlike the old Dallaras. Even the rear bumper thingie doesn't look that bad actually, even if it is different from the usual and takes a bit of getting used to.


The DW12 in the right livery and in superspeedway (Indy/Texas/Fontana) trim actually looks rather good IMHO.

#7 king_crud

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:44

I think they're an abomination, what happened to teams being able to create their own bodywork?

#8 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:14

I think that's frozen now. It wouldn't be good for the series anyways.

#9 Risil

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 12:22

I think that's frozen now. It wouldn't be good for the series anyways.


Wouldn't ever be good, or wouldn't be good without much more income from sponsorship/prize money etc?

#10 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 15:09

It worked when you had fabulous budgets in the 90s version of CART, and even then more people than not went with one design.

Frankly I think the competitive balance is far more interesting than winglets hanging off the cars.

#11 Deluxx

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 16:05

The only thing I am a little weary about is that huge front wing... but other than that it appears that it would create some interesting racing.

#12 Risil

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 17:41

It worked when you had fabulous budgets in the 90s version of CART, and even then more people than not went with one design.

Frankly I think the competitive balance is far more interesting than winglets hanging off the cars.


Agree. Allowing aero development can do wonderful things for the competitive balance (the instantly competitive Reynard brought some new teams to the front, and it was fun to see whether the Swift or Penske chassis would be competitive this week or not) but it's a terrible thing to get wedded to out of principle. Also by about 2000/2001 I have real trouble distinguishing between the appearance of the Reynards and the Lolas.

Besides, the engine competition in Indycar last year was awesome, at least for the fan.

Edited by Risil, 02 January 2013 - 17:41.


#13 red stick

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 18:30

Frankly I think the competitive balance is far more interesting than winglets hanging off the cars.


+1

#14 teejay

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 23:58

+1 - cars took a little to get used to, look fine now.

Another 150hp and some tyres that dont do 30000 laps without wearing would be good.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:33

Another 150hp


Better be prepared to pay for the equipment then. Did you not notice how many engines the teams went through last year?

and some tyres that dont do 30000 laps without wearing would be good.


That's what the two compound rule is for. Besides, I prefer the Bridgestone\Firestone tyres to the crap that's infesting F1. There was enough variety in 2012 anyway, for example Long Beach's final laps were interesting because of the strategy differences between the leading cars.

Edited by Prost1997T, 04 January 2013 - 01:35.


#16 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:35

Better be prepared to pay for the equipment then. Did you not notice how many engines the teams went through last year?


That's where my idea to run speedway wings everywhere comes in. It'd feel like you had an extra 250hp when you got on the gas. Wheelspin wheelspin wheelspin.

#17 Prost1997T

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:46

That's where my idea to run speedway wings everywhere comes in. It'd feel like you had an extra 250hp when you got on the gas. Wheelspin wheelspin wheelspin.


Then we'd see endless whining about how the 2013 Indycar is slower over a lap than a 2011 or 2010-spec one. In other words, it's tough to please Indycar fans. There are *still* people on youtube getting upset about the split series thing, and Tony George of course...