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#101 Imperial

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 19:58

The host broadcaster doesn't do the filming, it's done by FOM, bar one or 2 races.


Yeah, so it would be a bigger worldwide announcement by Bernie. He would not let Sky announce this on their own.

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#102 Imperial

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:01

it must me MASSIVE if it has been delayed just hope it isnt that they are making it exclusive to sky sports subscribers


It's still advertised as sold with the HD pack, anyway their first tweet would be plumbing MASSIVE depths of piss taking if it were that. "Hey guys we have MASSIVE news for you. If you only have the HD pack you're gonna be fuming, but....no, no, we'll save the surprise for tomorrow!".

#103 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:13

Scale is all wrong on that, she is properly tiny.

Plus, hard to beat your ITV-F1 appearance.

#104 jonpollak

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:18

Shut up and vote will ya...?
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#105 blackhand2010

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:44

I'm going for them having picked up the WRC rights.

#106 honda2009

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:29

On-Board footage going HD? maybe....

#107 olliek88

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:31

On-Board footage going HD? maybe....


Again, thats the sort of thing you'd expect FOM to announce rather than Sky. Guessing its something specific to them and their coverage.

#108 WonderboyF1

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:39

In all my years of watching F1, that was the best insight i have ever had of winter testing. Great stuff as always from SSF1

#109 midgrid

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 22:07

@SkyF1Insider
Sorry guys! We are tweaking our plans slightly! Promise I will let you in on our secret soon :)

:rolleyes: :o


Ah, the Mercedes gambit!


#110 chrisblades85

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 22:46

Was the massive news going to be that Ted waffles for 15 mins in his notebook?

#111 Disgrace

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 23:18

I GOT THE MASSIVE NEWS NOW..
Jp is the new Co-Host of The F1 Show

Jp


Obvious shop is obvious, for one you're looking at her face.

#112 jonpollak

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:06

Obvious shop is obvious, for one you're looking at her face.

:lol:
Damn...really?
Thought it was gonna fool everyone I did.

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#113 Peat

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:36

Why? All films were available in non-3D format.


Ok........I just don't like going to the cinema.

THERE. I SAID IT.

#114 goingthedistance

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:54

@skysportspete: You know that big announcement from Sky you've been hearing about? Well, a) it's big. b) it's coming up shortly.

:drunk:

They're hyping something. New addition to commentary team?

#115 RedBaron

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 08:57

They're making the channel available on freeview for everyone.

#116 button_sw

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:01

Live 3D Coverage of Barcelona Test!!

That is Awesome news :up:

#117 Imperial

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:04

Talk about an anticlimax.

Gee, four days of fixed low-speed runs and breakdowns. But in 3D!

Best get that opticians appointment booked now

#118 JRizzle86

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:10

It had to be 3D didn't it, 3D reduces clarity and fine detail, HD good, 3D no, hey but at least you can't make a copy or stream of 3D material...

#119 EvanRainer

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:11

I think this is actually pretty big. Has a test ever been covered live before?

I wonder if they will sell their broadcast to anyone else (i.e. broadcasters in other countries)

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#120 Imperial

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:15

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth etc, but it's hardly MASSIVE.

I would actually call social services if anyone admitted they would sit through four full days of testing. In 3D though! You'd be having seizures by the end of the first day!!

Clearly a test exercise for Sky/FOM, dressed up as being for our benefit.

Unless FOM are footing the bill, I can't help but think that's a good % of a possible Indycar or WRC deal gone.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:16

Is it only going to be in 3d. If they are not going to broadcast a HD or SD version at the same time, I cant see the point. Not many people have 3D

Edited by Massa_f1, 06 February 2013 - 09:17.


#122 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:25

Of course there will be a HD/SD version too - like there is for the football. It won't only be 3D.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:26

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth etc, but it's hardly MASSIVE.

I would actually call social services if anyone admitted they would sit through four full days of testing. In 3D though! You'd be having seizures by the end of the first day!!

Clearly a test exercise for Sky/FOM, dressed up as being for our benefit.

Unless FOM are footing the bill, I can't help but think that's a good % of a possible Indycar or WRC deal gone.


Agree with all of that.

Kudos to them for trying something innovative, but they really overhyped that announcement. In reality it's a pretty minor thing that evokes a "oh that's nice, might try and watch a bit of that" sort of reaction.

Most of us don't own 3D TVs. It will be shown in normal 2D HD as well.

#124 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:28

I do think Sky have took the wrong line with the announcement - the best line for F1 fans is "testing live - two hours per day at third test".

#125 fifi

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:29

its a joke calling it massive - the amount of sky subscribers that will have a 3d tv will be miniscule

#126 goingthedistance

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:31

I didn't realise it's only two hours of coverage too. Not great, though at least they will have enough material for that.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 09:51

Sky Sports F1 ‏@SkySportsF1
To confirm: Live testing will also be shown in 2D on @SkySportsF1. But if you have Sky HD pack and a 3D TV too, it's free to watch in 3D
9:43 AM - 6 Feb 13

I don't like the fact that they announced both at the same time.

If they just announced 'live testing' then you would have everyone pleased. But by adding 3D into the equation, people (unfortunately) assume it is not in 2D, therefore you have people unnecessarily disappointed. Would have made sense to put 3D in a separate announcement as it is two separate stories in my view:

1) Sky are showing testing live
2) Sky are showing it in 3D

#128 dank

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:46

The attraction of avidly following pre-season testing baffles me, probably as much as the overuse of 3D in films and sport. Combine the two together and I think I'd sooner sit through an episode of Splash!

From what I've seen, most conventional 3D TV sets - not the gigantic ones paraded around at CES or whatever - have been dire when it comes to fast movement due to frame-rate issues. Ideal for F1, then.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:52

The attraction of avidly following pre-season testing baffles me, probably as much as the overuse of 3D in films and sport. Combine the two together and I think I'd sooner sit through an episode of Splash!

From what I've seen, most conventional 3D TV sets - not the gigantic ones paraded around at CES or whatever - have been dire when it comes to fast movement due to frame-rate issues. Ideal for F1, then.


Only the highest spec current 3D tvs have a decent enough frame rate to deal with rapidly moving images that hardly anyone has them. Any basic to mid range 3D tv showing F1 will just be a blur.

Edited by JRizzle86, 06 February 2013 - 10:53.


#130 jrg19

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:54

So live all day on SSF1 at the final test?

Glad i booked that test off work :)

#131 dank

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:55

No, only two hours per day.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:56

Only the highest spec current 3D tvs have a decent enough frame rate to deal with rapidly moving images that hardly anyone has them. Any basic to mid range 3D tv showing F1 will just be a blur.


As I thought. What a pointless exercise at this stage in the technology and its adoption.

#133 Peat

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:23

You tell that to the berks that forked out for it and happily wear silly glasses to watch TV. They will swear blind it's better.

#134 jonpollak

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:12

3D?
Massive meh...
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#135 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:15

What, live or a highlights show? If live you hope they pick the right two hours...

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:31

Funny thing is...
The way the sun is at Montmelo, unless it's at high noon, the glare will negate all colour and definition.

Jp

#137 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:32

So one of those hours will be lunch.

#138 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:33

What, live or a highlights show? If live you hope they pick the right two hours...


It'll be from 2pm UK time (ie the final 2 hours).

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:39

So one of those hours will be lunch.


Depends what's for lunch - People seem to love Instagramming their lunch, so maybe a live 3D lunch view could be a real crowd puller!

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:40

Typical bunch of British moaners. Complaining when you lose coverage, complaining when you get new coverage. The only constant - moaning.

had this been on the BBC I can quite imagine the reaction to be rather different.

#141 dank

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:45

How very presumptuous.

#142 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:47

Typical bunch of British moaners. Complaining when you lose coverage, complaining when you get new coverage. The only constant - moaning.

had this been on the BBC I can quite imagine the reaction to be rather different.


I doubt it. 3D isn't exactly taking over peoples homes, so it's quite understandable that people are underwhelmed by the announcement. Had it just been that testing will be shown live (without the 3D bit) I can imagine the reaction would've been more positive, but it being in 3D for a couple of hours a day is hardly going to make people think "wow, I'd better get a 3D TV in time for that". 3D is overrated anyway.

Edited by HuddersfieldTerrier1986, 06 February 2013 - 12:50.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:53

I think the problem was expectation management. They hyped the announcement so much on twitter (MASSIVE blah blah) that the reveal was an anticlimax.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:00

Typical bunch of British moaners. Complaining when you lose coverage, complaining when you get new coverage. The only constant - moaning.

had this been on the BBC I can quite imagine the reaction to be rather different.


What would the reaction have been oh crystal-balled one?

#145 rhukkas

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:06

What would the reaction have been oh crystal-balled one?


If it was on the BBC "Good ol' BBC, leading the way with new technologies. Maybe not everyone has 3D TVs but it's great to see them trying something new!"


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:09

If it was on the BBC "Good ol' BBC, leading the way with new technologies. Maybe not everyone has 3D TVs but it's great to see them trying something new!"


But I thought that all the British did was moan?  ;)

#147 Linus27

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:09

Jeez, what a waste of time :(

#148 D.M.N.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:11

The announcement was not an anti-climax, in my opinion.

From an F1 fan perspective, having two hours live per day for the final test is pretty big news, especially when testing has not been broadcast live before. I think 3D really makes things less clearer and was an added unnecessary on top.

I can imagine the reaction here being different had it just been "we're showing testing live for test 3, two hours a day".

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:15

Don't let the random xenophobic bigotry put you off discussing the BIG NEWS that testing will be in 3D.

My question is why?

It seems to me that if you want to push yourself as the broadcasting service of choice, what you need to do is demonstrate your bona fides by proving that you can offer a great service, with a higher quality and at a reasonable price. What better than to take your kit along to a test that would not otherwise be covered, where the FOM people can sit back, watch and gauge the value?

It would not be a surprise to me if this were a precursor to Sky taking over the full production in 2014.

#150 goingthedistance

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 13:21

Covering two hours of testing a day for just the final test...well it's good, but I wouldn't call it MASSIVE, "really big news" etc.

I've never understood why they've stuck with these 15 minute segments up until now - there is enough interesting stuff from testing to make at least an hour's show out of. They have an entire dedicated F1 channel sitting empty and they can't be assed doing more than that? Might sound ungrateful but the two hour show is overdue IMO.

To justify the massive tag I would have expected a reshuffle of the lead commentary team (say getting Coulthard), a reorganisation of the channel with the addition of other formulas or the announcement of a few new magazine shows. I get that they have limited resources but I'd really like to see them push a bit more with their coverage, there's so much blank time. At least start showing more archive material.