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#51 JdB

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:55

I think i'll try Sport1 for a month or so, and if i don't like it, i can always cancel my subscription ... I'm not a big fan of Olav Mol (i don't like his conspiracy theories) so it has to be good for me to stay on. I saw Sport1 has 2 HD-channels, and 4 regular channels, can anyone tel me if the races will be broadcasted in HD? If not, i'll certainly won't even try it.

Thanks, Jeroen

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#52 Cozzie

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:03

Will sport 1 be offering an on demand service or is it subscription only?

#53 CoinOperated

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:29

I think i'll try Sport1 for a month or so, and if i don't like it, i can always cancel my subscription ... I'm not a big fan of Olav Mol (i don't like his conspiracy theories) so it has to be good for me to stay on. I saw Sport1 has 2 HD-channels, and 4 regular channels, can anyone tel me if the races will be broadcasted in HD? If not, i'll certainly won't even try it.

Thanks, Jeroen


'Naast de race zijn ook alle vrije- en kwalificatietrainingen live en in HD te volgen.'

Yes they will. I completely switched away from RTL when the BBC got the liscense to be honest. I can't stand Olav Mol either. Not sure yet on what I will do.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:53

Will sport 1 be offering an on demand service or is it subscription only?



It's not set in stone yet but I think they'll offer an on demand service.

#55 Henri Greuter

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 14:57

F1 changed a little bit "for the better" for Dutch TV stations
So I wondered...

With Van Der Garde in the "nog onder onderaan" (Courtesy: Andre van Duin) section of F1, maybe a change in live broadcasts coming up?
Otherwise I'm affraid that his Dutch sponsors really should have thrown in the euros last year instead of this year....


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#56 F.M.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:08

Will sport 1 be offering an on demand service or is it subscription only?

They will, and the cost would be 2,50 per race if I remember correctly. But Race, Qualifying, Practice etc. all have to be ordered seperately (2,50 each). So if you want to watch qualy and the race the total price won't differ too much from a year's subscription.

Edited by F.M., 04 February 2013 - 15:09.


#57 mnmracer

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:09

Will sport 1 be offering an on demand service or is it subscription only?

"Uiteraard is de Formule 1 ook via Sport1.nl te bekijken en worden de kwalificaties en races pay-per-view beschikbaar gemaakt via de platformen van UPC, Ziggo en KPN. "

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:13

F1 changed a little bit "for the better" for Dutch TV stations
So I wondered...

With Van Der Garde in the "nog onder onderaan" (Courtesy: Andre van Duin) section of F1, maybe a change in live broadcasts coming up?
Otherwise I'm affraid that his Dutch sponsors really should have thrown in the euros last year instead of this year....


Henri


Well Sport 1 signed a deal for 3 years so don't expect any change until the 2016 season!

#59 Henri Greuter

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:36

Well Sport 1 signed a deal for 3 years so don't expect any change until the 2016 season!



... how many Euros do you dare to bet on vdG still being in F1 by that time?
Or maybe Freijns' presence in F1 makes a change in plans necessary by that time....



henri



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#60 mnmracer

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 15:40

... how many Euros do you dare to bet on vdG still being in F1 by that time?
Or maybe Freijns' presence in F1 makes a change in plans necessary by that time....



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Giedo, no.
Robin, definitely.

#61 JdB

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 16:15

Giedo, no.
Robin, definitely.


That is, if Robin learns to keep his big mouth shut ... if not, he won't make it either ...

grtz.Jeroen

#62 mnmracer

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 16:35

He's got his heart on his tongue, I like that.
Monisha Kaltenborn said she couldn't blame him, and the whole Red Bull thing never even happened.

#63 Ruud de la Rosa

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 20:18

if they have a decent feed (onboard chanel etc) it might be worth the money. Let's hope they put up a decent pre&post-show. I would prefer them buying sky's/ BBC pre/post race show. At least give it as an option :)

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:07

Can anyone tell me why I'm seeing adds for F1 on Veronica TV?

Can't find any info on txt and " Access Denied! " won't let me check from here!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:12

Can anyone tell me why I'm seeing adds for F1 on Veronica TV?

Can't find any info on txt and " Access Denied! " won't let me check from here!

Veronica will broadcast a couple of races live (only 2 or so) and have a summary ala BBC for all the other races

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:15

Yes there is ;) In Dutch:



How about the presentation personalities? I mean if man pays, most men expect to receive worthy information. Sky does it and does spend money on inviting guys like martin and Damon. BBC certainly spend money as well. But Dutch in most cases are extremely stingy and pay not even a cent for those true speakers. Have this feeling that for Dutch guys formula one in Dutch language is all but finished...

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:18

And Olav Mol is still not under contract :/

Edited by Jejking, 26 February 2013 - 09:19.


#68 Tony Mandara

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:24

Veronica will broadcast a couple of races live (only 2 or so) and have a summary ala BBC for all the other races



Sorry :blush: :blush: , I should have read back a bit first, shouldn't I?

Thanks anyway! :up:

Edited by Tony Mandara, 26 February 2013 - 09:26.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:37

And Olav Mol is still not under contract :/

Such a relief. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who doesn't wear aluminum foil hat on his head every single race.

How about the presentation personalities? I mean if man pays, most men expect to receive worthy information. Sky does it and does spend money on inviting guys like martin and Damon. BBC certainly spend money as well. But Dutch in most cases are extremely stingy and pay not even a cent for those true speakers. Have this feeling that for Dutch guys formula one in Dutch language is all but finished...


In all seriousness though, who would they have to pay then? Jos Verstappen, Robert Doornbos, Christijan Albers, Jan Lammers? And those are the people who actually drove an F1 car...

A few years ago the rights were in the hands of SBS, and they made a complete mockery of their viewers with their so called 'presentation personalities', although one can't ask too much intelligence from SBS...


Edited by CoinOperated, 26 February 2013 - 09:43.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:41

Such a relief. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who doesn't wear aluminum foil hat on his head every single race.

Well, hopefully not Allard Kalff.

Coronel could be fun

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:51

Coming Saturday is the Sport 1 Formula 1 Launch Event. Probably some announcements will be made there.

I've got 2 tickets for it, but not sure yet if I'll be able to make it.

Edited by F.M., 26 February 2013 - 10:52.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:31

Well, hopefully not Allard Kalff.

Coronel could be fun


Seconded.

Kees van Grind, the Bridgestone guy and another Mol, who is part owner of Force India! Who is the sport head aviser of Randstad deal, what about ING men on board? Lots of sponsors, right?

#73 EightGear

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:40

Apparently Marco van Dam will be the commentator.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 16:20

Apparently Marco van Dam will be the commentator.

Nooooooooooooo!

#75 Raikkonen94

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 17:18

Apparently Marco van Dam will be the commentator.


You mean Ronald van Dam, right?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 18:20

Yes, it is Ronald van Dam. Former editor in chief of a Dutch F1 magazine. He was also the commentator of F1 when it was on Canal+. His sidekick was former F1 driver and Le Mans-winner Jan (Jantje) Lammers.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 18:31

No sidekick has been announced yet though that would be better. I mean, Sky has two commentators, BBC has it, German channel has it. I hope it's a former F1 driver who knows what he's talking about. Too bad there isn't much to choose from besides Albers or something.

What we do know is that every practice session will be broadcast live and there will be a channel for alternative camera views, ride onboard with your favourite driver etc. Similar to the red button which the BBC used to have.

#78 EightGear

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 19:43

You mean Ronald van Dam, right?



Yes, of course... :blush:

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 20:30

Yes, it is Ronald van Dam. Former editor in chief of a Dutch F1 magazine. He was also the commentator of F1 when it was on Canal+. His sidekick was former F1 driver and Le Mans-winner Jan (Jantje) Lammers.

I used to watch the races on Canal+ with him and Jan, was actually not a bad duo at the time. I think later Tim or Tom (hihi) Coronel took over with Ronald which also wasn't bad at all.

I guess I'll wait untill the announcements have been made on what to do this year.

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#80 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:34

We've got more news on Sport1's F1 broadcasting. Ronald van Dam will commentate and be assisted by Christijan Albers, Jos Verstappen and Robert Doornbos this season. Depending on who's available one of these three will co commentate. Very good in my opinion, because one commentator isn't enough anymore to really see everything.

Furthermore, Olav Mol will be on location to preview each F1 race and possibly be a pit commentator like Ted Kravitz and Lee McKenzie for our English broadcasters.

Every race will be broadcasted in HD, though have to say, Sport1 only has one HD channel, so will have to wait and see if it doesn't clash with big football matches.

In some races viewers will be able to switch camera's to their liking. Also, using your tablet you can get additional features like a driver tracker.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:38

We've got more news on Sport1's F1 broadcasting. Ronald van Dam will commentate and be assisted by Christijan Albers, Jos Verstappen and Robert Doornbos this season. Depending on who's available one of these three will co commentate. Very good in my opinion, because one commentator isn't enough anymore to really see everything.

Furthermore, Olav Mol will be on location to preview each F1 race and possibly be a pit commentator like Ted Kravitz and Lee McKenzie for our English broadcasters.

Every race will be broadcasted in HD, though have to say, Sport1 only has one HD channel, so will have to wait and see if it doesn't clash with big football matches.

In some races viewers will be able to switch camera's to their liking. Also, using your tablet you can get additional features like a driver tracker.


Yup, they're really going into Sky direction. Personally I'm happy Olav Mol will still be committed to F1 live coverage. I guess he'll be really happy that he will be on location for every GP, hopefully he'll see some familiar faces :) I might take Sport1, although only for 3 months as the first 3 months cost just €5,- p/month. I don't think I'm willing to pay €15,- p/month when you have BBC sometimes and there are always streams on the internet ofcourse ;)

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 09:15

WAT IS SPORT1 PITLANE?
Pitlane is het tweede scherm boordevol statistieken dat Sport1 in samenwerking met Infostrada Sports Group voor de echte Formule 1-fan heeft ontwikkeld. Het biedt tijdens alle 20 live Grandprix-races dit seizoen een schat aan statistische informatie als de snelste rondetijden, posities op de baan hebben en alles wat er gebeurt.

Maar dat is niet alles! Je kunt Sport1 Pitlane ook gebruiken om gedetailleerde informatie over alle coureurs, circuits en de klassementen te bekijken. Tenslotte is het ook mogelijk via twitter te chatten met andere Sport1 Pitlane-gebruikers.

HOE GEBRUIK IK SPORT1 PITLANE?
Sport1 Pitlane is geschikt voor alle soorten tablets, laptops en pc's. Sport1 wil met Pitlane een toegevoegde waarde bieden bij het kijken naar live Formule 1-races, maar kan ook als scherm op zich worden gebruikt.

Pitlane is voor iedereen in Nederland gratis te gebruiken. Er zijn geen extra kosten aan verbonden. Via pitlane.sport1.nl profiteer je van alle extra's.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:30

Watched the first practice sessions on Sport1. Nothing spectacular yet, it was only Ronald van Dam who is calm and relaxed, which I prefer as a commentator. Think we''ll see dual commentary for qualifying and race then.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 10:39

I'm not planning on subscribing to Sport1 just yet.

I guess I'll try the German RTL a few times and have preferred BBC's broadcasts over RTL anyway, so I'll watch half of the races there.

I will give Sport1's pay-per-view model a try, though, although I'm not sure whether that will be in HD, which would be a big plus.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 11:33

Ziggo alles in 1 users can watch the Australian GP free. Go to www.ziggo.nl/tvopbestelling and you can order races there. Normally they wil be 6,95 per race but Melbourne will be free.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 13:23

I'm not planning on subscribing to Sport1 just yet.

I guess I'll try the German RTL a few times and have preferred BBC's broadcasts over RTL anyway, so I'll watch half of the races there.

I will give Sport1's pay-per-view model a try, though, although I'm not sure whether that will be in HD, which would be a big plus.



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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:36

Okay, the commentator(s) are really, and I mean really bad: No idea who is who or who is driving in what position. During teamradios they keep going with their little useless chat to say "sorry" afterwards. Van Dam really has no clue about what is going on, has no understanding of the strategies at all and simply seems to lack all skills to be a decent F1 commentator.

Olav Mol wasn't perfect and made more than few (silly) mistakes during a race, but compared to this he was sublime! If they don't improve their knowledge of the sport and on reporting in general, I will cancel my subscription. An internet stream from Sky is way better, taking the less than stellar image quality for granted, and some of the races will be broadcasted by BBC.

Also, they don't dare to say a bad thing about Giedo. "Giedo finished a more than respectable 18th in his first race". For crying out loud, he was simply dead last!

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:45

I like to think my Tweet after qualifying helped a little with the team radio.
In qualifying it was horrible, but I felt in the race, he actually stopped talking for most of the radio messages.

That said, I didn't quite feel it yet, but I'm willing to give them a few races. Got 3 months on discount anyway :p

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:48

I like to think my Tweet after qualifying helped a little with the team radio.
In qualifying it was horrible, but I felt in the race, he actually stopped talking for most of the radio messages.

That said, I didn't quite feel it yet, but I'm willing to give them a few races. Got 3 months on discount anyway :p

Yeah, but you have to cancel within 2 months

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:56

You have to cancel at least a month before the end. You still get that third month though.
I am going to cancel anyway, and if I do end up liking it enough, I'll just get it again.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:05

I enjoyed the Oz Grand Prix on RTL on a one-hour delay do I could skip ads.

Didn't really listen to the commentators, though — both my sons (4 and 1) were playing in the same room. :-)

Next race back to the Beeb.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:13

Malaysia isn't live at the BBC.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:20

Malaysia isn't live at the BBC.


You're right. I'll probably watch the Malaysia on RTL, again, and China on the Beeb, then.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:14

This was just horrible... My low point was when someone was going to pit for Michelin tyres! Hello Ronald they left 6 years ago!

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:17

Seeing these responses I'm somewhat glad I held off on jumping on Sport1's offer.

I watched the race on German RTL and while it had some annoying ads it wasn't all that bad. Commentary was up to its usual standards, so no complaints there. :up:

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:14

It's too bad Sport1 doesn't offer a second audio channel in English, like they sometimes do with football matches on the extra channels. It would be great if they could have Sky's commentators as a second audio channel to choose frome.

That being said, I think Doornbos being there helped a lot. At least he knows what he's talking about.

#97 EightGear

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 13:12

I really didn't think it was too bad...

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 13:26

It's too bad Sport1 doesn't offer a second audio channel in English, like they sometimes do with football matches on the extra channels. It would be great if they could have Sky's commentators as a second audio channel to choose frome.

That being said, I think Doornbos being there helped a lot. At least he knows what he's talking about.

Yeah, especially when Alonso was pitted first and Doornbos mentioned that team orders were banned since the Barichello-Schumacher incident

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 13:49

Yeah, especially when Alonso was pitted first and Doornbos mentioned that team orders were banned since the Barichello-Schumacher incident


Ouch.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 14:23

I just watched the race online. I'm not paying extra to watch F1 -.- has always been free, now I need to pay for digital TV which I don't need + subscription for a sport channel with football and all of that while all I want is to watch F1, so it'd cost me more than 300 euros a year. For what, really? Sorry, livestream for me.