I don't think Lucas was good enough to make it in F1, rubbish machinery or not.
Edited by noikeee, 06 August 2013 - 14:42.
Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:41
Edited by noikeee, 06 August 2013 - 14:42.
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Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:43
He didn't only win but dominated F-BMW and F3.. And about what some of you are saying about not doing anything special during the races, well, have you watched Silverstone this year? When he started p20 (I think) and arrived p7, and all of that in the Sprint Race (no strategy at all). In this race, he started behind Colleti and finished in the points.. There are many others examples of that, especially last year, in his rookie season, when he got a podium on his first ever race in GP2.
He's fighting for the championship on his second season (with a mid-level team), may become the second youngest champion in the history of GP2 and still not good enough?
Last year, I only saw people praising Kimi Raikkonen for being in the title fight until the end with a Lotus, and still, he only won a race at the very end of the championship.
But I'm 100% sure that a couple of race wins from him and those opinions will change very fast
Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:49
So while he is racing for the championship he should demand the riskier strategy that may give him a race win but may as well lose him the championship? Yeah, sure.He is too conservative? He should demand the winning tactics from his team. Especially when you think of the championship and with Colleti in the backfield (Hungary). If they adapted the Palmer tactics he had his first win instead of third place. And the 10 points difference he got have gained in Hungary is a lot in the end. Heck, he would have been leading the championship right now.
Fortec boss told about Frijns he beat himself up if he wasn't on pole position or wasn't winning..
Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:55
Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:56
Sure, ironically Bianchi's reputation is growing better than Grosjean's, despite the former causing way more accidents in the juniors and the latter have a strong reputation before F1, but partially that's because he starts so far back there's no one for him to crash into at the start!That's part of the game too but it's not the whole story. Bianchi's reputation isn't taking any hits this season (in fact it's improving) despite being there. Of course team-mates is another factor, you'd rather have Chilton than Glock wouldn't you (and I know you rate Glock big time)...
I don't think Lucas was good enough to make it in F1, rubbish machinery or not.
Posted 06 August 2013 - 14:59
Yeah, he won in his first year there, took 2 for Vettel or Gutierrez to do the same.I watched him win F-BMW, and he was not bad - not Vettel or Gutierrez levels, but he definitely marked himself out as the next potential hot shoe - and he definitely looked to be in the Piquet mold of give it a go, learn the series and then attack for the title, but he is slipping back into di Grassi mode now. Not that there's anything wrong with that, and there are plenty of people who could learn from his stay out of trouble, don't go for the questionable move tactics, particularly with respect to his abilities on tyre management, which is crucial these days.
It's not tremendous to watch, of course, and even Coletti learnt how to manage his tyres better eventually, so he has been schooling his rivals in one respect.
Posted 06 August 2013 - 15:07
Ironically Bianchi has a reputation, but it was Frijns that dive bomb inside Jules at Barcelona to win the FR3.5 title.Sure, ironically Bianchi's reputation is growing better than Grosjean's, despite the former causing way more accidents in the juniors and the latter have a strong reputation before F1, but partially that's because he starts so far back there's no one for him to crash into at the start!
Posted 06 August 2013 - 15:09
Posted 06 August 2013 - 15:16
Exactly. Rejecting RBR is not going to take his talent away. Going by the looks of it, he hasn't lost opportunities either.Does not make any difference. He either is good enough or he isn't.
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Posted 06 August 2013 - 17:11
I watched him win F-BMW, and he was not bad - not Vettel or Gutierrez levels...
Posted 06 August 2013 - 17:26
So while he is racing for the championship he should demand the riskier strategy that may give him a race win but may as well lose him the championship? Yeah, sure.
Yeah, he won in his first year there, took 2 for Vettel or Gutierrez to do the same.
Posted 06 August 2013 - 17:37
Felipe wasn't qualified as a rookie in f-bmw europe. He drove races in f-bmw pacific and americas before f-bmw europe
Posted 06 August 2013 - 17:50
Posted 06 August 2013 - 18:16
Posted 06 August 2013 - 18:49
Last year, I only saw people praising Kimi Raikkonen for being in the title fight until the end with a Lotus, and still, he only won a race at the very end of the championship.
Posted 07 August 2013 - 00:30
Lebanse.Nasr descends from Arabs and the last GP2 will be held in Yas Marina.;)
Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:22
In Nurburgring he took an aggressive strategy and it backfired, if not he could be leading the championship right now. I would be worried if he hadn't the pace to win races, but he has (in Bahrain if the finishing line were 200m ahead he would've won. Malaysia he was right behind Coletti and probably one more lap and he would have won. Spain and Hungary he lost because strategy calls. Silverstone in the incident when he was taking the lead), too bad that with todays rules/tyres most races in GP2 are won thanks to strategy calls.Well, he is not leading the championship. If he was leading the championship a conservative strategy is in place, but he must gain as much as possible when coletti is in the backfield. That is my opinion.
Nope, before F-BMW Europe he only did the last round (2 races) of F-BMW America in Interlagos. He only drove races in F-BMW Pacific after F-BMW Europe. It is completely different from Vettel who had already done a complete season in F-BMW Europe or Gutierrez who did had a complete season in F-BMW USA + 2 races in F-BMW ADAC and raced the world final before becoming champion. And even ignoring the previous experience I fail to see how he's season was not in Gutierrez level since he finished more than 100p ahead of 2nd place while Gutierrez finished less than 30p, and Nasr faced a stronger grid.Felipe wasn't qualified as a rookie in f-bmw europe. He drove races in f-bmw pacific and americas before f-bmw europe
Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:55
In Nurburgring he took an aggressive strategy and it backfired, if not he could be leading the championship right now. I would be worried if he hadn't the pace to win races, but he has (in Bahrain if the finishing line were 200m ahead he would've won. Malaysia he was right behind Coletti and probably one more lap and he would have won. Spain and Hungary he lost because strategy calls. Silverstone in the incident when he was taking the lead), too bad that with todays rules/tyres most races in GP2 are won thanks to strategy calls.
Nope, before F-BMW Europe he only did the last round (2 races) of F-BMW America in Interlagos. He only drove races in F-BMW Pacific after F-BMW Europe. It is completely different from Vettel who had already done a complete season in F-BMW Europe or Gutierrez who did had a complete season in F-BMW USA + 2 races in F-BMW ADAC and raced the world final before becoming champion. And even ignoring the previous experience I fail to see how he's season was not in Gutierrez level since he finished more than 100p ahead of 2nd place while Gutierrez finished less than 30p, and Nasr faced a stronger grid.
Posted 07 August 2013 - 11:49
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 14:34
Don't get me wrong. I also think he is a good driver but he needs a few wins. I rate him much higher than Coletti. I think the championship goes down to either Nasr or Calado. Coletti and Bird for the dark horsies..
Posted 07 August 2013 - 17:30
Do you still think that Calado has a chance?? Come on.. Calado himself seems to have let GP2 go this year, already talking about third driver position in F1 and other stuff.
Posted 07 August 2013 - 21:26
Yep, Italians don't seem to bother.You don't need an Italian driver when you have Ferrari.
Posted 07 August 2013 - 21:48
Yep, Italians don't seem to bother.
Having no Brazilian driver would kill the already Sunk and still sinking TV rates here. And would kick F1 out of newspaper/magazine coverage outside of specialized publications.
However I really can't say how important our audience is, if it's enough to pull Nasr if FM retires.
Posted 07 August 2013 - 21:52
Or Leimer, sure why not? Since silverstone Calado scored 50 points and gained 35 points on Coletti.
With 4 rounds (192 points) left a lot is possible.
Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:12
His approach to GP2 has certainly marked him out to be the new di Grassi.