V8 Supercars are becoming irrelevant as cars that don't use V8s are coming in. Ovlov and ofcourse Nissan are racing a V8 car that has yet to be produced.
And all the crybaby stuff starts again as the 'newcomers' cannot compete with what should be superior base engines. Reading Speedcafe Todd Kelley in particular is crying because they do not have enough power or more importantly fuel economy for Bathurst and Sandown. The Benz is no better though reputedly at least AMG are trying to overcome the defecits.
If they cannot play the game, don't play. Don't expect everyone else to have to do a whole pile of redevelopment because you are off the pace.
Supposedly the Datsuns are 8% worse on economy. And they have a quad cam 4 valve that should be better! Work harder. Really they should never have expected to be winners in the first year.
If the rules are changed to allow it the other players may leave!
A BMW spokesman summed it up recently, They looked at it but do not wish to spend the money. They do not have an engine [and do have V8s] to play and really don't want to race against [and worse get beaten] by bogan Holdens. Pointing out that MB must be really enthused about running at the back every meeting. MB Australia never wanted to play. The engines and support came from Germany and the rest is a private deal by a Mercedes Benz lover.
As for V8s as road cars I do see a LOT of V8 Commys and Fords on the roads. I don't see many V8 Benzs [there is a few] and no V8 Nissans or Volvos. Yet alone Toyotas unless you include Landcruisers!
And the above comment about Nascar being based on front drive cars is irrelevant. This is road racing in Australia not oval racing in the States.
Where the cars have no relevance at all to a road car. But should!
Also this thread was about the total negative environ of Supercar. I started it! What was a decent category has been dumbed down with cars that are not cars. And the moderators hijacked it as a pro Supercar thread. Which was very poor. Especially when you look at all the negative comment about F1. Most totally justified.
Edited by Lee Nicolle, 01 August 2013 - 09:44.