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#501 caso

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 18:15

I quite like it, i do love most white helmets to be honest, always look slick to me!

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#502 benzine

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 19:07

looks like van der gardener has a taste in helmets

#503 P123

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 19:30

Zava never said it was a bad thing, just that it lacked originality, which, to an extent, is true.

But then how many truly original helmets are there now days? Not many.


Most helmet designs are a total mess these days. That said, the SV Baumgartner/ Stratos tribute design is one of the better ones he's worn.

#504 DaiMOn

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 18:42

I had some free time, so I've made a retro livery for Fernando, based on his Minardi helmet. It's interesting how simple his design was back then. :p

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#505 jrg19

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 18:46

Very good, his helmet has evolved almost beyond recognition with the light blue associated with Alonso stemming from Mild Seven.

#506 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 18:55

I think Asturias has been around longer than Mild Seven.

#507 Juan Kerr

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:18

I think Asturias has been around longer than Mild Seven.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Tut! Do the youth of today know anything!! :)

#508 jrg19

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:33

I think Asturias has been around longer than Mild Seven.


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Funny that it took Mild Seven for Alonso to realise this.

#509 olliek88

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:37

Again the Spanish flag predominates over the helmetsides and Asturian blue fulfills its basic colors


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#510 jrg19

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:46

So when did he introduce the Asturian blue, was it after he had Mild Seven sponsorship or is the navy blue representative of Asturia?

#511 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:50

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Funny that it took Mild Seven for Alonso to realise this.


So why is he running it now?

#512 jrg19

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 19:58

Didn't you see Olliek's post?

#513 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 21:11

Im making fun of you because you dont know what you're talking about.

#514 Gintonious

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 21:14

Love the retro one, class.

#515 DaiMOn

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 21:30

Thanks. :)

As far as I can see, in 2001 he had neither the Asturian logo nor the lighter (Mild Seven) blue color in his design. In 2002, when he was contracted by Renault, the Mild Seven halo appeared on his helmet, but there was still no sign of the Asturian flag. But in 2003 - probably he realized that the blue color in the flag is very similar to Mild Seven blue -, he changed the dark blue parts in his design to MS blue, and placed the Victory Cross in this blue area. And he is using this combinatian since then.

We can't be sure about how all this happened of course, but I think jrg19 could be right, because the Mild Seven logo appeared on his design in 2002, but the Asturian flag was placed on it only in 2003.

(Sorry for my english, I'm not a native speaker.) :p

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#516 jrg19

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 21:55

Great post, a very open way to look at it.

Obviously Alonsos helmet now is the colours of Asturias, which coincidentally is the same colour as MildSeven, which in fact made an appearance on his helmet before anything relating to Asturias, as DaiMOn pointed out. His helmet change at McLaren was related to his early karting helmet (I think I heard that somewhere), in which he was probably getting away from the MildSeven colours associated with Renault.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:21

I know nobody else has picked up on this, and I have tried to research more into it but with no success (i noticed during Aus GP Weekend) Seb is the only driver in the field sporting an Arai that isn't using the traditional ped wing that every other driver uses. His is different, minimised version that to me, extends further out, but is indeed a lot smaller in size. Looks like it snaps into 2 spots whereas the other's wraps around like normal. Intrigued as to why this is so, you'd think it'd be one spec for all.

I also still find it interesting that some drivers (Mark Webber, Sutil) do without the ped wing. Coulthard was the same too.

Have a look at F1Finatic.co.uk for his 2013 helmets page, and look at the rearview of Seb's helmet vs other Arai's such as Button/perez/Lewis etc. You will see what i mean.

#518 DaiMOn

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:31

I know nobody else has picked up on this, and I have tried to research more into it but with no success (i noticed during Aus GP Weekend) Seb is the only driver in the field sporting an Arai that isn't using the traditional ped wing that every other driver uses. His is different, minimised version that to me, extends further out, but is indeed a lot smaller in size. Looks like it snaps into 2 spots whereas the other's wraps around like normal. Intrigued as to why this is so, you'd think it'd be one spec for all.

I also still find it interesting that some drivers (Mark Webber, Sutil) do without the ped wing. Coulthard was the same too.

Have a look at F1Finatic.co.uk for his 2013 helmets page, and look at the rearview of Seb's helmet vs other Arai's such as Button/perez/Lewis etc. You will see what i mean.


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Arai GP-6 is shipped with two different ped kits in most cases. The bigger ped (Hamilton) helps to keep your head in position, but some driver find it uncomfortable so they don't use it. That is why helmets like Webber's or Sutil's are only equipped with two smaller ped for cooling.

As for the Vettel spec ped, his designer was asked about it last year, and he told that this "spoiler" was developed specially for Sebastian. However I don't think this solution has any advantage, it's very unique, and as we know, Vettel likes unique things.

#519 tjkoyen

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:48

Webber's helmet doesn't have a PED kit, just the plastic vent covers that come standard with the helmet. One has to purchase a PED kit separately. Mighty cheeky of Arai to charge $100+ for two pieces of plastic :p

But yes Seb uses a special wing on his. I noticed it last year near the end of the year. Korea maybe? But yeah, not really much aero difference I don't think. They are more to stabilize the driver's head at speed. One can imagine maybe Webber doesn't like the feeling of that so he runs without it. Webber also doesn't run the front lip part of the PED kit either. Maybe he just prefers the cleaner look as well.

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#520 Gintonious

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 15:35

I see that the Ferrari GT drivers are now using Stilo lids.

#521 jrg19

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 07:23

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#522 Gintonious

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 13:31

The strip on the visor looks like it is made of wood.

Not a big fan of the lid really.

#523 jrg19

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:20

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Romain's lid for the weekend.

#524 darkkis

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:24

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Romain's lid for the weekend.

It's... gorgeous! :clap: Why did he change his anyways?

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#525 Richard T

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:30

It's... gorgeous! :clap: Why did he change his anyways?


His and Kimis is to alike from the front i think

#526 Gintonious

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:38

Very nice indeed, should see Heikkis soon as well

#527 plumtree

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:45

It's... gorgeous! :clap: Why did he change his anyways?

It's a special helmet for celebrating his first F1 podium here last year. The design was picked by fan vote.

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#528 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:48

So basically the rules are you can't change his helmet just the color combo.

#529 OvDrone

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 14:53

Hope he keeps this color scheme. Looks fantastic. :up:

#530 Gintonious

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:10

Vettel has his space lid on.

#531 Gintonious

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:08

Gonzales's lid, mad.

#532 Wander

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 11:21

I agree that the special Grosjean colour scheme is an improvement. I'd keep it personally.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:04

Gonzales's lid, mad.

Abysmal... :rotfl:

#534 MadYarpen

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:17

It needs some more elements and colours.

#535 tjkoyen

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 13:18

Gonzales's lid, mad.


At least it's different! I think it's kind of cool actually. I mean, I'd never have a helmet with a giant hummingbird on the side, but more power to him...

#536 tjkoyen

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 16:40

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Kobayashi's new helmet for AF Corse.

A bit of a generic layout, but I like the red outlines. I preferred his F1 helmets though.

#537 Ravenak

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 17:03

I don't understand why drivers ALL go for these little "spikes". They're horrendous and appear on almost every single helmet. How uninspired.

This is what I mean:

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And the list goes on and on...

#538 tjkoyen

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 18:20

It's the European style. They give the illusion of speed and sharpness. Why are they horrendous? Besides that they appear on nearly every helmet. It's just the style that's in fashion right now.


#539 Ravenak

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 18:24

Horrendous because unpretty, uninspired and, most of all, they add to the complexity of the design.

These little spikes are thin by definition, they're smaller, so they easily take out portions of space on the helmet.

I find it's a cheap solution, it's symptomatic of modern designs, but what do I know...

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 18:25



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Posted 19 April 2013 - 18:30

Horrendous because unpretty, uninspired and, most of all, they add to the complexity of the design.

These little spikes are thin by definition, they're smaller, so they easily take out portions of space on the helmet.

I find it's a cheap solution, it's symptomatic of modern designs, but what do I know...


As with anything of this nature, it's your opinion which you're entitled to.

When you get your helmet painted, don't put any spikes on it if you don't like them.

As I noted, it's a design trend, which means it won't stick around forever probably.

Just like lots of guys had the shaded grids on their helmets in the late 1990s:

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#542 Ravenak

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 18:33

As with anything of this nature, it's your opinion which you're entitled to.

When you get your helmet painted, don't put any spikes on it if you don't like them.

As I noted, it's a design trend, which means it won't stick around forever probably.

Just like lots of guys had the shaded grids on their helmets in the late 1990s:


It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact: more of this stuff, less space, more complexity, more intricate shapes and colors.

But yeah, the "horrendous" part is a question of taste. But when you look back at some older designs, you had less details and more refined designs.

Edited by Ravenak, 19 April 2013 - 18:33.


#543 jrg19

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 20:00

So whats Tommys excuse?

#544 Ravenak

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 20:06

So whats Tommys excuse?


Good one :p

#545 Longtimefan

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:13

Call me odd but I still preferred the old days when a driver picked his helmet colours and STUCK by it.

Can you imagine Senna changing helmet colours every race? nahh. helmet colours are a personal thing and say something about the driver, its a bit silly to change it so often. :/


#546 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:18

I get the impression these days the driver has an idea of what he'd like and the designer comes up with something where in the old days the driver did most of his own. It'd certainly explain the difference in detail/complexity.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:23

Call me odd but I still preferred the old days when a driver picked his helmet colours and STUCK by it.

Can you imagine Senna changing helmet colours every race? nahh. helmet colours are a personal thing and say something about the driver, its a bit silly to change it so often. :/


Most drivers maintain either the colors, a few select design elements, or the overall layout in one for or another.

My helmets always maintain a few colors and a few design pieces.

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I get the impression these days the driver has an idea of what he'd like and the designer comes up with something where in the old days the driver did most of his own. It'd certainly explain the difference in detail/complexity.


Very true. Most of the clients come to me with a few ideas for colors but I do most of the designing. A few have very detailed ideas and already have sketches but many rely on me to come up with the design.

#548 Ravenak

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:27

See, little spikes again, on both your helmets, but in particular on the first one. Eeek :p

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#549 tjkoyen

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:32

See, little spikes again, on both your helmets, but in particular on the first one. Eeek :p


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Posted 19 April 2013 - 21:35

When it comes to helmets 'less is more' most modern helmets are far far OTT for my liking.
some simple designs are the best ever imo, such as:

Francois Cevert - Very classy helmet (like the guy himself)
Ayrton Senna - Simple but elegant
Tom Pryce - same again
JYS - very simple but distinctive
Emmo - simple and elegant
I could go on, but I won't.

Edit: yes I dislike spikes too, a horrible modern fad I hope goes away asap.

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