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[Jager]

There are various pictures floating around showing the Martini Porsche 917's being prepared before the 1971 Le Mans race in a wonderful, charismatic garage setting so far removed from the sterile garages of today.

http://www.pelicanpa...AT-VP202023.jpg

Does anyone have any more information on the garage where this pictures was taken. Was it the workshop of a local Porsche dealer, or just a local mechanic ? Where in Le Mans was the garage located, does it still exist today (and can you see it on google earth) ?

Note : Edited to appease the copyright police.

Edited by Jager, 20 January 2013 - 08:10.

[E1pix]

Sorry, these images are only 'just floating around' because of some who have no regard for others' life's work and their copyright.

Please read the rules posted here.


As seen in Peter Hinsdale's The Fabulous Porsche 917 book, the top image is at the Porsche factory IIRC. The bottom image strikes me as being at a race track.

Edited by E1pix, 20 January 2013 - 06:55.

[Jager]

E1pix, thank you for lesson on copyright, but the B/W versions of these pictures have been widely reproduced and distributed as posters and postcards and appear in a variety of books, magazines and calenders. I believe they were taken by Alois Rottensteiner, but also understood them to be in the public domain given the widespread distribution which goes well beyond the internet. Either way, I've edited my post to link to one of the numerous websites selling the picture as a poster.

Note there are also colour versions of the same scene, taken at the same time copyrighted by Rainer Schlegelmilch. From what I've seen, it was Schlegelmilch's picture that appeared in Peter Hinsdale's The Fabulous Porsche 917 book rather than the B/W versions. I deliberately did not post the Schlegelmilch picture for the copyright reasons you indicated, but have linked to a picture of it below :

http://bumpsteer.blo...-race-shop.html

The Schlegelmitch picture (or a combination of it and the others) has also clearly become the 'inspiration' for artwork by Jorge Garcia :

http://3.bp.blogspot.....+Workshop.jpg

Coming back to my original question, to me all pictures are taken at the same location/time as can be seen by the glass doors/windows in the background. My impression was the location was too cramped and disorganised for it to be the Porsche factory, but would welcome any other input.

Edited by Jager, 20 January 2013 - 09:56.

[EDWARD FITZGERALD]

Porsche used a garage in Teloche 6km south of mulsanne , the cars were driven to the track for practice , this procedure ended in IIRC 76 when a mechanic buzzed an engine on the run to the track , from then on they opperated from the paddock

[GMACKIE]

Porsche used a garage in Teloche 6km south of mulsanne , the cars were driven to the track for practice , this procedure ended in IIRC 76 when a mechanic buzzed an engine on the run to the track , from then on they opperated from the paddock

Did the mechanic have to pay for the repairs, i.e. "You bend it, you mend it"?

[Jager]

Porsche used a garage in Teloche 6km south of mulsanne , the cars were driven to the track for practice , this procedure ended in IIRC 76 when a mechanic buzzed an engine on the run to the track , from then on they opperated from the paddock

Thanks Edward. A quick Google search of 'Porsche Teloche' threw up another variation of the pictures :

http://images.forum-.....e (Small).png

Even better, is this thread from a French Forum which shows the garage is still there, showing modern pictures in contract to period pictures taken from the same spot.

http://i605.photobuc...11/IMG_3209.jpg

More details here:

http://www.forum-aut...e/sujet2991.htm

Edited by Jager, 20 January 2013 - 22:28.

[David Lawson]

Going off at a tangent, in my well thumbed copy of "International Motor Racing Book" published in 1967 there is a nice Geoff Goddard photograph of the Porsche team in what appears to be a local garage at the 1966 Targa Florio.

David

[Emery0323]

Even better, is this thread from a French Forum which shows the garage is still there, showing modern pictures in contract to period pictures taken from the same spot.

http://www.forum-aut...e/sujet2991.htm

Clicking on the link gives me an error message that the page doesn't exist??

[alansart]

There are various pictures floating around showing the Martini Porsche 917's being prepared before the 1971 Le Mans race in a wonderful, charismatic garage setting so far removed from the sterile garages of today.

http://www.pelicanpa...AT-VP202023.jpg

The photo of the garage was obviously the inspiration for this painting by François Bruère: http://www.collector...Porsche917K.jpg

The same garage but a different car.

[Jager]

Clicking on the link gives me an error message that the page doesn't exist??

Sorry about that. The link is working now.

Here's another pictures I found of the Porche team at the Teloche garage taken in 1973. The garage looks a bit cleaner and the overal scene doesn't look as chaotic as two years earlier.

www.porschepark.org/images/dec_2012/LeMans_r.jpg

Edited by Jager, 20 January 2013 - 22:47.

[D-Type]

I know nothing about the garage pictured.

However I do feel that the term "copyright police" is a cheap jibe under any circumstances. Given what E1pix has posted here about his personal circumstances it is a particularly tasteless and inconsiderate response.

Edited by D-Type, 21 January 2013 - 00:25.