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#1 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:31

According to Sport Bild:
http://sportbild.bil...u-mercedes.html

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#2 jrg19

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:34

Do you think he would leave McLaren for a new challenge?

#3 Jimisgod

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:34

What? Is he going to replace Rosberg?

I've had it with these pay drivers. They're everywhere. :p

#4 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:38

Do you think he would leave McLaren for a new challenge?

According to the article he was recruited by Wolff to work at Williams but will now move with Wolff to Mercedes (?). Make of it what you want.
Sport Bild were the first to break the Wolff story so they have some credibility, although they may be overstretching themselves with this one...

Edited by Timstr11, 21 January 2013 - 18:41.


#5 Alx09

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:40

That's a big one if true.

#6 D.M.N.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:42

Bild broke Wolff and Glock stories - both turned out to be true. Extremely good short term track record, announcement in the morning?

#7 jrg19

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:42

Yup 20 years in a job, might be the right time to move.

#8 undersquare

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:42

I like the speculation that part of the move is about Brawn and Fry moving on.

#9 Viktoria

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:43

Whats going on there.. why is he going to Mercedes.. I'm not sure that I like this.. I thought Lewis escape Mclaren... and now the 1st one is following ..not good not good!!

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:44

Bild broke the Glock story and the Wolff story too. Jon Noble seemed to think they already had today's pressers on their desks as of yesterday.
Three for three?

#11 Alx09

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:44

Whats going on there.. why is he going to Mercedes.. I'm not sure that I like this.. I thought Lewis escape Mclaren... and now the 1st one is following ..not good not good!!

Lowe is a nice guy.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:45

Bild broke Wolff and Glock stories - both turned out to be true. Extremely good short term track record, announcement in the morning?

Bild broke the Glock story and the Wolff story too. Jon Noble seemed to think they already had today's pressers on their desks as of yesterday.
Three for three?


:lol:
What color am I thinking of? Quick!

Edited by gm914, 21 January 2013 - 18:46.


#13 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:53

Tweeted on 17 January:

McLaren ‏@TheFifthDriver
Next week Technical Director Paddy Lowe will answer questions ahead of the car reveal and the 2013 season. What would you ask? #AskPaddy

If this is still scheduled than there's no truth to the story.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:53

Won't Paddy be leading the mp4-28s design?

* ^ If he was to go wouldn't he have to go on some kind of gardening leave?

Edited by jrg19, 21 January 2013 - 18:55.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:55

Bild broke Wolff and Glock stories - both turned out to be true. Extremely good short term track record, announcement in the morning?


Very very big news if true, if he does come I wonder how many more will follow....

Exciting time to be a Hamilton/Rosberg fan....

#16 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:55

Won't paddy be leading the mp4-28s design?

The design is pretty much done. If true he will be on gardening leave for at least the next 6 months.



#17 Kvothe

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:57

Tweeted on 17 January:
If this is still scheduled than there's no truth to the story.


I don't think so, if Paddy was about to leave, I'd expect McLaren to milk him as much as they could before he officially left.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:58

I like the speculation that part of the move is about Brawn and Fry moving on.


That would make some sense. Didn't they both do well out of the sale of Brawn GP to Mercedes? I'd imagine that Ross, at least, staying on for a period would have been part of the deal but there is no reason why he would stay there forever. He doesn't own it anymore. Also, by now it is clear that Ross is not a magic bullet bringing success wherever he goes.

A lot is changing at Mercedes GP.

#19 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:59

I don't think so, if Paddy was about to leave, I'd expect McLaren to milk him as much as they could before he officially left.

To talk about the MP4-28? No way. If true he's already on gardening leave with no access to McLaren premises. For sure. A Q&A with fans is trivial stuff.

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#20 Kingshark

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:01

Bob Bell, Geoff Willis, Aldo Costa, Mike Elliot, and now Pade Lowe. How many god damn designers do Mercedes need? Ferrari and Red Bull only have 2 each.

#21 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:01

I like the speculation that part of the move is about Brawn and Fry moving on.

I'm thinking it's more at the expense of Bob Bell who now has a similar role to Paddy Lowe's at McLaren.

However I do believe Ross will be leaving quite soon.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:02

Where would Paddy Lowe fit in at Mercedes - replace Bob Bell?

Don't think it's happening to be honest, but you never know.

#23 bogi

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:03

Paddy is technical director, same as Ross Brawn or Adrian Newey. I don't think he will get any lesser role than TD.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:04

Wow! Martin Whitmarsh (as a team principal of McLaren) managed to lose 4 key people! Dave Ryan, Pat Fry, Lewis Hamilton and now Paddy Lowe! Managed to sign Jenson Button, Sam Michael and Sergio Perez. :drunk: ): :well:

#25 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:06

Paddy is technical director, same as Ross Brawn or Adrian Newey. I don't think he will get any lesser role than TD.

Nope. Same as Bob Bell.
Brawn is Team Prinicipal.

#26 jrg19

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:09

Anyone think this could have been part of Lewis' decision to leave?

#27 Viktoria

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:09

Wow! Martin Whitmarsh (as a team principal of McLaren) managed to lose 4 key people! Dave Ryan, Pat Fry, Lewis Hamilton and now Paddy Lowe! Managed to sign Jenson Button, Sam Michael and Sergio Perez. :drunk: ): :well:



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#28 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:13

Hamilton was asked about the rumors while in Stuttgart:

"This is the first time I've heard of it. I'm not aware of anyone from McLaren joining Mercedes," Hamilton said this afternoon in Stuttgart. For him, the signing of Lowe would not really be necessary. "I have the feeling now they have a great team and I'm not sure if they still need a lot more people to develop the car in the right direction. There are a lot of smart people, "said Hamilton.

http://www.motorspor...s_13012111.html

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:15

According to Sport Bild:
http://sportbild.bil...u-mercedes.html


Wow.. I was kinda pissed about the Lauda Wolff situation but I have to admit.

if this is true...

Sh...t just got serious!

:eek:

#30 olliek88

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:18

All i can say...



So many shocks this off season, what next Eddie Jordan makes a comeback?

#31 Coral

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:21

Very very big news if true, if he does come I wonder how many more will follow....

Exciting time to be a Hamilton/Rosberg fan....


Wow! I did not expect anything like this...very interesting if it is true.

It is indeed such an exciting time to be a Hamilton/Rosberg fan. I like both drivers, so I don't have any problem with their being team-mates. Paddy Lowe at Mercedes? Hmmm...have Mercedes become the new McLaren?! ;)

#32 senna da silva

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:22

I'd like to see an org chart. Lol.

#33 onewingedangel

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:27

I'd like to see an org chart. Lol.


You'd need an ultra widescreen monitor - Mercedes seem to be gunning for strength in breadth rather than depth. Question is will all the captains be steering in the same direction.

#34 Owen

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:28

Hope this ain't true. But with the Merc chequebook...

#35 r4mses

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:29

I'd like to see an org chart. Lol.


...so do the guys working at Mercedes =D

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:56

Is there someone who isn't going to Merc?

But such an important technical guy who switches without a gardening leave? I doubt it.

#37 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 19:59

Is there someone who isn't going to Merc?

But such an important technical guy who switches without a gardening leave? I doubt it.

Nobody said he's switching without gardening leave.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:04

Just translated the original article and it sounds like Paddy was originally persuaded by Toto to join Williams but then Toto got the chance at Mercedes and has brought Paddy with him. Not sure how all this works regarding contracts, leave & any potential financial reparations coming Mclaren's (And maybe William's) way.

The relevant bit.

How SPORT BILD learned of the new Mercedes-CEO Toto Wolff has recruited the British Lowe actually for his former Williams team. He was also Managing Director today. Prepared: Now he takes the British mastermind simply to Mercedes.


Edited by olliek88, 21 January 2013 - 20:06.


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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:09

Last year at a talk that Paddy Lowe gave, he was asked how much of a disadvantage the customers of engine manufacturers would be compared to engine manufacturers. He said there would be a clear disadvantage.
Earlier in the talk he'd spoken of how the 2014 rules will shake up car design, shifting the emphasis away from aerodynamics.

None of this is news to us of course, but maybe the tech guys want to be in the right place at the beginning of this big shake up, in order to be more marketable later on. Ditto the smart drivers.

eta: of course, that doesn't fit in with him having been lured to Williams first. Oh well....

Edited by F1EC, 24 January 2013 - 16:48.


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#40 Mandzipop

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:11

Bild broke the Glock story and the Wolff story too. Jon Noble seemed to think they already had today's pressers on their desks as of yesterday.
Three for three?


They had to leave the big one for tomorrow as Jon Noble will be on a plane tomorrow when it is officially announced.  ;)

#41 tkulla

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:13

Just translated the original article and it sounds like Paddy was originally persuaded by Toto to join Williams but then Toto got the chance at Mercedes and has brought Paddy with him. Not sure how all this works regarding contracts, leave & any potential financial reparations coming Mclaren's (And maybe William's) way.

The relevant bit.


To me that makes this rumor less likely. Recruiting Paddy to Williams would require them to come up with some big $$, which doesn't seem to be an option for them especially considering the took on Bottas instead of a money driver.

Also, the conflict of interest involved here would be substantial. Negotiating with Lowe as a representative of Williams and then luring him over to Mercedes after a deal had been agreed to would be a pretty big ethical issue and Frank would be able to sue for sure.

Lastly, as I'm rooting for McLaren this year I hope this isn't true.

#42 Timstr11

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:17

Interesting that none of the regular F1 journos is running with the story.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:46

It seems a stretch for me to believe this. If it's true then I think we can clearly see what Merc's strategy is, hire every one in the paddock so there's no one left at the other teams.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 20:48

don't think its true and I kinda agree with Ham and those who say they got enough technical directors already...

in any case, the moves and whispers so far suggest Merc is taking their F1 foray seriously... at the end of the day though, they need to have the car and in season development to show for it. They've already secured some good performance by having arguably the strongest driver pairing on the grid, now they gotta build on that by giving em the machinery.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:01

It seems a stretch for me to believe this. If it's true then I think we can clearly see what Merc's strategy is, hire every one in the paddock so there's no one left at the other teams.


No thats Ferrari's strategy. Mercedes have a long way to catch up.

#46 Fastcake

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:06

What's up with all the Bild news and Merc technical directors recently! One would think both have had enough of both.

#47 Red17

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:11

If this is true, who will take Lowe's role in Mclaren?

#48 judd

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:13

If this is true hell have to serve his gardening leave (3,6 or 12 moths) before he can start at Merc!

#49 onewingedangel

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:21

If this is true, who will take Lowe's role in Mclaren?


Sam Michael would probably cover during any gardening leave period - :lol:

I don't think any of us are qualified to suggest who could perform well in the role and would be a fit at McLaren - the best person may already be at McLaren in a more junior role, or could be at another team in a junior role.

#50 TheSpecialOne

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 21:22

Hey guys I'm just wondering. If this is true might he need to take gardening leave? Not sure if anyone's mentioned it yet? Thanks!