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#51 Fred.R

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:17

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a "Costa" wheel

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wheel on right a "Cicada" (Doug Trengove) then became "ASP" then "Elfin" then "Randy" (Brian Randall) the one one the left may be early "Simmons" the other unknown

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#52 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:11

No...

That's not a Simmons. And that's not the kind of Costa wheels to which I earlier referred.

#53 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:01

I just remembered Brian Rawlings did a composite wheel...

The regular Hopwood rim sections with a piece of alloy plate turned up to size on a lathe and having a few holes drilled in it... centre, wheel stud and (I think) four large diameter holes spaced equally around the gap between the stud circle and the rim boltline.

They were used on his Bulants. I think I had some similar ones on the Typan I owned too.

#54 Fred.R

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:25

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5 stud "Simmons"

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not Australian but an "ATS" wheel



#55 lyntonh

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 23:44

These photos have been posted previously on the Welsor thread.

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Mawer wheels on Ian Field's Welsor 1973

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Simmons wheel on Dave Seldon's Welsor 1973

#56 seldo

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:31

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Simmons wheel on Dave Seldon's Welsor 1973

Some critter's been munching my guard....

#57 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:57

Have you been brake testing the opposition again David? more than the guard, the whole back is missing.

#58 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:38

Hopefully!! If you go to Photobucket you should be able to see the pics of wheels that I have there? my username there is leenicolle oneword all lowercase.
Like all these pic sites they are useles to computer illiterates like me. At least to get pics on here.
I have pics on Imageshack too,, but have tried several times to register a user name, it is green and just has the little think thing going around. That is not me, that is the site!!

#59 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 05:53

Originally posted by Fred.R
From a few years ago

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A life time ago i worked for Mullins Wheels, the Alloy/steel wheels did indeed have a steel insert cast into them and this inturn was welded to the rim ( and a ROH rim at that)


Lee sent through a couple of pics, one of which is an ROH example of the welded type:

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But I seem to remember that the Dragaway wheels were bolted with a button head cap screw.


Like this other pic, a Dragway, from Lee?

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#60 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:48

Lee sent through a couple of pics, one of which is an ROH example of the welded type:

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Like this other pic, a Dragway, from Lee?

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Thanks Ray.
The ROH one is the wheel made for Ford on XY XA XB. Look good but are heavy and a challenge to balance!
The Dragway is simply bolted into the spoke. That is the old style with 2 bolts per spoke, the more modern style, the Centreline clone has only one bolt per spoke. To me that is not enough. There was a clone [a clone of a clone!] of that wheel that was made in Victoria and a couple broke on HQ race cars.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 29 January 2013 - 10:13.


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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:56

Some critter's been munching my guard....

David moved over during a dice with Moss Angliss & was hit by Ray Kaleda.

To keep this thread on topic, I've posted several photos of Kaleda's wrecked car on the Welsor thread....
might as well see if we can get it going again!!

#62 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:00

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Thanks to 2bob I have managed to upload a picture!!
Both Image shack and this site seem to make it impossible. Grrr.
Anyway this is probably the latest production composites around, for well over 10 years, The ROH Milano which is sort of still advailable. Very well made, better to me than Simmons. And are for sale, suit Commodore!!

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 29 January 2013 - 10:11.


#63 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:40

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After several attemps I managed to load two different pics, on 2 different posts!
The two pics show the very little difference of a 30 y/o Hopwood centre and rim to the modern [well 8 y/o] version made by Concorde in Qld with a Randy [Brian Randall] rim.
The old Hopwood is originally from my Sports Sedan, the centre was used in 16" Simmons rims for a while before they were retired to the classic Supermodified. Only 2 left now from the original 4, the others cracked from stud hole to spigot. The modern ones dont seem too and I used them very hard on the Sports Sedan as a 16x12 with Dunlop radial slicks. I guess they are better material, Though they are younger too! Though the modified rear rims are 15x15"
The 20 bolts are the same PCD though Simmons used grade 8 1/4 bolts and I use 5/16 grade 5, as were the Hopwood originally

#64 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:42

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:47

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Nice Safety Boots Lee :up:

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:06

REBEL and GLOBE. Rebel on my Twin Cam when i bought it. Globe 13x7 Sprintmasters on restored car . Paid a $100.00 for 5 with spare caps. Posted Image

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:06

Just came across these couple of shots - from Symmons 1970. John Ziegler's rolled HK Monaro 327 after the centre pulled out of an Aunger mag wheel. I was there but in the pits on the wrong side of the track so didn't see it roll, but apparently it was a single flip with not a lot of damage.

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#68 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 21:50

Just came across these couple of shots - from Symmons 1970. John Ziegler's rolled HK Monaro 327 after the centre pulled out of an Aunger mag wheel. I was there but in the pits on the wrong side of the track so didn't see it roll, but apparently it was a single flip with not a lot of damage.

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Not an Aunger but an American. The Aunger Hustler like many others was a clone of that wheel.In 1970 Aungers were still an alloy centre steel rim. As discussed before. In one size 14x7. A bit small for racing!!

#69 Ray Bell

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:32

The composites formerly made by Ray Eldershaw at Seven Hills were called 'Circle Track Wheels'...

They are now made at Kelso, Ray sold out of the business several years ago.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:26

Some critter's been munching my guard....


Streets still going (my Mum used to work there in the olden days), Shelleys (probably gone) and Chiko Rolls (definately NOT gone!) but what ever happened to Maruman Watch Bands??? :smoking:

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 19:48

Streets still going (my Mum used to work there in the olden days), Shelleys (probably gone) and Chiko Rolls (definately NOT gone!) but what ever happened to Maruman Watch Bands??? :smoking:

Shelleys is still going [sort of], now at Taren Point. Berts Soft Drinks [Bertshell P/L] was started in the '60s, by a family member after the Marrickville 'Shelleys' was sold.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 20:06

The composites formerly made by Ray Eldershaw at Seven Hills were called 'Circle Track Wheels'...

They are now made at Kelso, Ray sold out of the business several years ago.

Ray regularly turns up at GEAR Club days at Wakefield Park. Greg Wright took over Circle Track......not sure if he still runs it.

I had Circle Track wheels on my hillclimb car [Notso Special], as did many hillclimbers.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 22:07

..... but what ever happened to Maruman Watch Bands??? :smoking:

Not sure if the Maruman brand is still alive, but as far as I know, the watch-band importation business is still going, being run these days by ron Kearns' son Rodney.

#74 Ray Bell

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 20:11

These were nice wheels...

Another 'composite' with chromed steel rims on an alloy centre, modelled off Brabham wheels, the Speedlite:

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 00:13

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Does anyone know what brand these wheels are? A direct clone of an Aunger Hustler except for the centre which appears to have used a sprung loaded or serrated external clip on cap that I cannot find to buy. The Aunger all used the screw on version.
They will be for sale, It would be nice to know the correct brand.
And no I do not know why the pic is not showing, if you click on it, it will. I had two goes to even get the pic to upload to Imageshack. Where several of my pics have disappeared. Some from Easter.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 23 July 2013 - 00:18.


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Posted 23 July 2013 - 00:14

These were nice wheels...

Another 'composite' with chromed steel rims on an alloy centre, modelled off Brabham wheels, the Speedlite:

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Superlite caps though.

#77 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 01:50

Originally posted by Lee Nicolle
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.....And no I do not know why the pic is not showing.....


I think I Know...

#78 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 03:51

I think I Know...

Thanks for getting that up Ray.
Tell me more. Last time I did it the same way they showed up fine. I followed 2bobs instructions to the letter. They are pinned up on the office wall!

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 04:29

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Does anyone know what brand these wheels are? A direct clone of an Aunger Hustler except for the centre which appears to have used a sprung loaded or serrated external clip on cap that I cannot find to buy. The Aunger all used the screw on version.


Lee, I’m not sure what brand this wheel is but its spoke shape is definitely similar to the Aunger Hustler wheel which was made in the early 70s. The Hustler design was a direct copy of an early US wheel made by Ansen. (I think Ansen called their design the Torq Thrust - although I think American Racing also used the same name for a similar design.

Most US made wheels were of a 5 spoke design as nearly all US cars of that era were 5 stud fitment.
The 4 spoke design that you have would be a spin off of the 5 spoke design to suit the 4 stud UK and European cars.
Aungers (later Cheviot) did make a 4 spoke Hustler design but a lot of the early alloy wheel companies quickly copied any of the opposition designs that were popular sellers. So, unless there are any markings on the back of the wheel it would be difficult to pin point the manufacturer.

The clip on cap fitment does identify it as a very early wheel - probably a late 60s – early 70s manufacture prior to the advent of screwed on caps and the later press fit. The 6” x 13” Globe Sprintmaster wheel had a similar push on type cap.


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#80 Ray Bell

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:05

Lee, somehow the [img] part of the string is missing...

If you click on 'quote' on my post and see how I fixed it you will get the idea.

#81 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:25

Lee, I’m not sure what brand this wheel is but its spoke shape is definitely similar to the Aunger Hustler wheel which was made in the early 70s. The Hustler design was a direct copy of an early US wheel made by Ansen. (I think Ansen called their design the Torq Thrust - although I think American Racing also used the same name for a similar design.

Most US made wheels were of a 5 spoke design as nearly all US cars of that era were 5 stud fitment.
The 4 spoke design that you have would be a spin off of the 5 spoke design to suit the 4 stud UK and European cars.
Aungers (later Cheviot) did make a 4 spoke Hustler design but a lot of the early alloy wheel companies quickly copied any of the opposition designs that were popular sellers. So, unless there are any markings on the back of the wheel it would be difficult to pin point the manufacturer.

The clip on cap fitment does identify it as a very early wheel - probably a late 60s – early 70s manufacture prior to the advent of screwed on caps and the later press fit. The 6” x 13” Globe Sprintmaster wheel had a similar push on type cap.

Thanks Kevin, I did not think of the Globe style cap. I will try and find some and see of they fit. I Think Rare Spares carry them.
While the spoke design is a dead copy of an Aunger [I had another set that was 2 Aungers and 2 X brand recently] I do not think that they are. Too my knowledge all Hustlers, even the steel rim ones had the screw on cap. These are all alloy and quite light. The alloy is very soft to file when I cleaned up the minor kerb damage whereas all Aunger's seem quite hard.
I feel Ansen were absorbed by American Racing. The Torque Thrust wheel is available from them in many sizes though the spoke shape is a little different. As you say, all 5 spoke styles. These days in 14 15 and 16" styles from 6-9" wide. Often with too little backspace as many US wheels seem to be. Rocket in Sydney will supply them though the price is a bit scarey.
I was tempted to put a set on my ex Stan Keen Galaxie but Performance Superlites were about half the price. Its original Globes are long gone.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:36

Thanks Kevin, I did not think of the Globe style cap. I will try and find some and see of they fit. I Think Rare Spares carry them.
While the spoke design is a dead copy of an Aunger [I had another set that was 2 Aungers and 2 X brand recently] I do not think that they are. Too my knowledge all Hustlers, even the steel rim ones had the screw on cap. These are all alloy and quite light. The alloy is very soft to file when I cleaned up the minor kerb damage whereas all Aunger's seem quite hard.
I feel Ansen were absorbed by American Racing. The Torque Thrust wheel is available from them in many sizes though the spoke shape is a little different. As you say, all 5 spoke styles. These days in 14 15 and 16" styles from 6-9" wide. Often with too little backspace as many US wheels seem to be. Rocket in Sydney will supply them though the price is a bit scarey.
I was tempted to put a set on my ex Stan Keen Galaxie but Performance Superlites were about half the price. Its original Globes are long gone.

Lee, if the wheels are "quite light" and the metal is "soft" they may be magnesium. (Try igniting the filings and see if they flare up and burn.) If not, then the wheels are either non heat treated aluminium (favoured by early European wheel manufacturers) or they are probably a sand cast wheel.
The internal diameter of the Globe Sprintmaster push on cap is 2.725 inches. I've seen replica ones on the Internet in the plain chrome finish to suit the Globe XU-1 Torana wheels but they were very expensive. Globe also made a plastic version of this cap which should be available from Mullins Wheels who now own the Globe brand.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:09

This is another what are they. I thought they were Magnums when I bought them, with about 3 mmm of mud, oil, grease and brake dust on them. But once cleaned they do not have anything cast into them as a manufacturer. Magnums had either Sampson or Magnum [or real late ones CSA] cast into them.As well as the spokes were polished whereas these are as cast, and have been painted silver. The material is quite 'hard' and they really 'ring' well.
Does anyone have any idea? Kaydee?
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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:21

Lee, if the wheels are "quite light" and the metal is "soft" they may be magnesium. (Try igniting the filings and see if they flare up and burn.) If not, then the wheels are either non heat treated aluminium (favoured by early European wheel manufacturers) or they are probably a sand cast wheel.
The internal diameter of the Globe Sprintmaster push on cap is 2.725 inches. I've seen replica ones on the Internet in the plain chrome finish to suit the Globe XU-1 Torana wheels but they were very expensive. Globe also made a plastic version of this cap which should be available from Mullins Wheels who now own the Globe brand.

I recently sold a set of push in caps for an Aunger Hustler, CSA version. So there is another version around!
CSA do not have the XU1 caps anymore.
I found a set of caps to suit that set of wheels in stock, they were I believe early model Telstar. Not ideal but did the job. And they have a new home!

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 22:15

This is another what are they. I thought they were Magnums when I bought them, with about 3 mmm of mud, oil, grease and brake dust on them. But once cleaned they do not have anything cast into them as a manufacturer. Magnums had either Sampson or Magnum [or real late ones CSA] cast into them.As well as the spokes were polished whereas these are as cast, and have been painted silver. The material is quite 'hard' and they really 'ring' well.
Does anyone have any idea? Kaydee?
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Hotwires?
 



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:25

This is another what are they. I thought they were Magnums when I bought them, with about 3 mmm of mud, oil, grease and brake dust on them. But once cleaned they do not have anything cast into them as a manufacturer. Magnums had either Sampson or Magnum [or real late ones CSA] cast into them.As well as the spokes were polished whereas these are as cast, and have been painted silver. The material is quite 'hard' and they really 'ring' well.
Does anyone have any idea? Kaydee?

Agreed - they look like early Aunger Hot Wires



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:34

Hotwires are a fair bit different. The spokes are thinner and there is a couple more per wheel too. Plus they have Aunger or Chevoit [or Delta] cast in them in one place or another. As do the Magnums. These are very Magnum like, just not polished spokes. And the material seems different.
There does seem to be a few copys of copys of copys around the traps from the 70s. And I keep buying them! Which doesn't matter as they all go away sooner than later. My query is purely for interest.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 00:54

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I don't profess to know all about these wheels, but there seems to be quite a few people making very simialr ones.

 

There was a place in Gosford back in the 80's, Avanti Compnoents, that made wheels that look basically the same. This ad was from Racing Car news I think in the early 80's.

 

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A friend of mine who has sonse passed away, Leon Prgomet, also had a set that looked the same on his RX-2 Club Car in the late 80's, and they were then put onto an RX-7 Club Car in the early 90's, and they look very similar again except for more bolts holding the centre to the rim.

 

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From what I have been told by a mate, that last set with the red centres, are supposedly still being made by a company called Circle Track Wheels in Seven Hills NSW.

 

I've got quite a few Australian made mags to suit my Mazda RX-4.

 

13x7 and 13x8 Rebel Wheels.

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Gold Hotwire style 14x7 Performance Wheels and 14x7 Performace Challengers

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A set of early R.O.H. Drag Mags

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And in the below pic, forgetting the steel wheels and the Drag Mags, are a set of Mesh style 14x6 Performance Wheels, and bottom right a set of 13x6.5" Cheviots.

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And yes I do subscribe to the motto "he who dies with the most wheels wins!".



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:20

Those composites seem to have been marketed by several different sellers. Possibly clones of each other. look back through this thread for several different pics of them in 13 and 15"

While I don't wish to die with them I probably win over most as I have over 50 sets of various classic and modern wheels as well as race wheels.

They are all available, as well as 3 race cars that go with the race wheels.

Edited by Lee Nicolle, 12 October 2013 - 10:23.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 20:55

Tom, at OZ Wheels, Dickson Rd Leppington made a nice set of Porsche wheels for me, around 10 years ago. They were 3 piece [spun alloy rims with cast centres]....I've still got them.

 

I think Tom 'chucked it in' soon after that, as as his back was really bad.

 

Edit....Sorry about the pun [chucked, metal spinner] - it was unintentional.


Edited by GMACKIE, 12 October 2013 - 21:03.


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 23:47

Thought these would be an interesting inclusion. Saw them advertised on gumtree.com.au

 

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Advertised as "13 x 10 Matich genuine Magnesium wheels,manufactured by Commonwealth Aircraft Corporation"

 

 

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#92 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:20

The castings would have been done at CAC...

 

I'm pretty sure Matich's team did their own machining.



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:29

Old is new again. On Ebay a seller is selling 15x7 and 15x8 'Globe'Sprintmaster clones. Look ok, I don't know about quality or weight but they look alright.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:55

Those "Matich" wheels are advertised for $300. Very cheap or is that per wheel. Even if they were $300 per wheel they are still cheap as!

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 22:25

Those "Matich" wheels are advertised for $300. Very cheap or is that per wheel. Even if they were $300 per wheel they are still cheap as!

At that age they are display wheels only. So not worth much really. Did Matich use them painted black or have they been painted recently to hide/ control the corrosion. Cast magnesium gets very porous and very brittle with age.

#96 Ray Bell

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 22:36

Ah yes...

 

Frank Gardner's prime argument against Historic Racing.