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#1 Anonymous

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 15:56

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‘Life is measured in achievement, not in years alone.’ - Bruce McLaren

It’s all a long way from that small south London lock-up back in 1963. But Bruce wouldn’t wish for us to merely look backwards without looking forwards, too.

Accordingly, echoes of our past will reverberate throughout a series of unique events and celebrations to be held across our anniversary year.

From the McLaren 50 logos we’ll proudly sport on our team shirts, through our specially commissioned heritage video features, to the launch of our new MP4-28 Formula 1 car with Jenson Button and Sergio Perez on January 31st, every lap, every corner, every mile and every road we take will be an opportunity to revel in McLaren’s present while recalling our 50-year past.

Ron Dennis CBE, executive chairman, McLaren Group and McLaren Automotive, said: “McLaren’s history is long and storied, but McLaren’s legacy is harder to define – and that’s because it’s still being vividly written every day by the dedicated men and women who work at the McLaren Technology Centre.

“Bruce McLaren wrote the beginning of the story, and the legend is going to continue for many years to come. I’m only a chapter, not the book, and I want other people to come in and write their own chapters as time goes by.

“This is a book that’s still being written, and that, perhaps, is the greatest legacy of McLaren.”


FANTASTIC! :clap:

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#2 JRizzle86

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 16:12

Nice list of achievements of the last 50 years for the team. I sincerely hope they continue from strength to strength.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:48

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‘Life is measured in achievement, not in years alone.’ - Bruce McLaren



FANTASTIC! :clap:


What a better year to win the WCC and WDC than McLaren's 50th? Let's hope the 28 and the team are up to the challenge.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:50

New wallpaper with the McLaren 50 logo, i wonder if they will run it on the car as it was on Checos teamwear?

#5 10e10

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 18:57

New wallpaper with the McLaren 50 logo, i wonder if they will run it on the car as it was on Checos teamwear?

It would be nice, even though it was barely visible in the teamwear.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:38

Hi all! Does anybody know roughly when the teamkit will be unveiled? Long time lurker first time poster, heres to a double championship year boys!

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 11:43

I don't know where to post this...but it has nothing to do with the car but here goes:

joseluisf1: Mas rumores: McLaren podría estar reduciendo algo recursos en F1 para dedicarlos a otras areas con el fin de asegurar el futuro del grupo

"More rumors: McLaren could be reduced somewhat in F1 to devote resources to other areas in order to ensure the future of the group"

don't really know how to read into that. feel free to move this into its own topic if need be?

Edited by ScM, 24 January 2013 - 11:43.


#8 10e10

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 14:14

I don't know where to post this...but it has nothing to do with the car but here goes:

joseluisf1: Mas rumores: McLaren podría estar reduciendo algo recursos en F1 para dedicarlos a otras areas con el fin de asegurar el futuro del grupo

"More rumors: McLaren could be reduced somewhat in F1 to devote resources to other areas in order to ensure the future of the group"

don't really know how to read into that. feel free to move this into its own topic if need be?


Where did that come from?

#9 10e10

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 14:14

I don't know where to post this...but it has nothing to do with the car but here goes:

joseluisf1: Mas rumores: McLaren podría estar reduciendo algo recursos en F1 para dedicarlos a otras areas con el fin de asegurar el futuro del grupo

"More rumors: McLaren could be reduced somewhat in F1 to devote resources to other areas in order to ensure the future of the group"

don't really know how to read into that. feel free to move this into its own topic if need be?


Where did that come from?

#10 Raziel

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 14:53

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:love: :up:

#11 Buttoneer

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 15:31

I wonder if the anniversary means they will run a special livery this year? Anyone remember the fantastic blue livery that Williams had in testing a few years ago and the orange for 2006? Would be great to see that back again.

#12 Garagiste

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 15:44

It never occured to me until seeing the logo history that the current branding evolved from the Marlboro chevron.

#13 10e10

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 16:02

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:love: :up:


I loved those red Marlboro McLarens! Beautiful!

#14 BRG

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 17:21

"It’s all a long way from that small south London lock-up back in 1963."

I presume that this is from McLaren themselves? It is a real pity they don't know that the 'small lock-up' where the team originated was actually in New Malden, Surrey, which wasn't even part of London back in 1963. And even today, it certainly isn't in south London. McLaren need to get their own history straight!

From an unimpressed former resident of New Malden!



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Posted 24 January 2013 - 17:59

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:love: :up:


You could really argue that Orange isn't their definitive colour.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 18:03

Some beauties there.

#17 10e10

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:38

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Looks great!

#18 Raziel

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 19:40

From official Vodafone McLaren Mercedes facebook page

What a great photo! Bruce, Hakkinen, Senna, Prost, Hunt.... :love:

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Lewis already there amongst the legends! Nice! :up:


damn you 10e10! :p  ;)

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#19 jrg19

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:27

From official Vodafone McLaren Mercedes facebook page

What a great photo! Bruce, Hakkinen, Senna, Prost, Hunt.... :love:

http://img849.images...00369641413.jpg

Lewis already there amongst the legends! Nice! :up:


damn you 10e10! :p ;)


We shouldn't expect anything less.

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#20 Red17

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:35

I know it's supposed to be a WDC gallery, but they could have squeezed Denny in there.

Happy Birthday Mclaren. (please sort your pitstops this year and give Jenson a good balance)

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:46

Fantastic picture. New wallpaper :up:

#22 10e10

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 20:51

We shouldn't expect anything less.


Niki is missing as well. But is a great picture! Great team with great history.

#23 JRizzle86

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 22:45

Quite apt in their 50th year they are releasing quite a car.




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Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:17

I have to imagine were he still alive, Bruce would be absolutely thrilled to see that his creation has survived for 50 seasons.

I wish he were still here to see all of the success his company has had. I wonder if he would ever have imagined all the race victories and world championships that were to come for the team.

I hope they see another 50 years.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:36

I have to imagine were he still alive, Bruce would be absolutely thrilled to see that his creation has survived for 50 seasons.

I wish he were still here to see all of the success his company has had. I wonder if he would ever have imagined all the race victories and world championships that were to come for the team.

I hope they see another 50 years.


Ron shows his respect to Bruce and he exists to strengthen Bruce's creation more and more every year. He has achieved this very well indeed. Kudos to him :up:

Edited by Mc_Silver, 24 January 2013 - 23:37.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:21

"It’s all a long way from that small south London lock-up back in 1963."

I presume that this is from McLaren themselves? It is a real pity they don't know that the 'small lock-up' where the team originated was actually in New Malden, Surrey, which wasn't even part of London back in 1963. And even today, it certainly isn't in south London. McLaren need to get their own history straight!

From an unimpressed former resident of New Malden!

Do you know the address in New Malden of the first McLaren base, was it a workshop for building cars or an office>

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 04:06

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:love: :up:


Seems a bit odd not to have the 1990 MP4/5b, was quite a bit different to the 1989 MP4/5 and Senna won the world title in it! They have the 17 and 17d there!!

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 22:40

Do you know the address in New Malden of the first McLaren base, was it a workshop for building cars or an office>

Yes, it was in Wellington Crescent, a small industrial estate. We tracked it down in this thread in The Nostalgia Forum and it has been verified by Howden Ganley and Eoinn Young who were both there at the time, living in a nearby house with Bruce McLaren. It was a shed of some sort, which we do not think still survives, used as the team's first base.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 23:12

Yes, it was in Wellington Crescent, a small industrial estate. We tracked it down in this thread in The Nostalgia Forum and it has been verified by Howden Ganley and Eoinn Young who were both there at the time, living in a nearby house with Bruce McLaren. It was a shed of some sort, which we do not think still survives, used as the team's first base.

Thank you so much for your reply and that link, very interesting. Has the building on Wellington Cres been identified, is it still there?

Edited by dave34m, 25 January 2013 - 23:41.


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Posted 25 January 2013 - 23:58

I love this thread.
Happy 50th McLaren.



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Posted 26 January 2013 - 01:04

Seems a bit odd not to have the 1990 MP4/5b, was quite a bit different to the 1989 MP4/5 and Senna won the world title in it! They have the 17 and 17d there!!


Hunts M23 of 1976 is missing too.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:29

Seems a bit odd not to have the 1990 MP4/5b, was quite a bit different to the 1989 MP4/5 and Senna won the world title in it! They have the 17 and 17d there!!

Why is the 1970 M7A shown with No 1, I think thats the 1968 Denny Hulme car. They haven't shown the M14A or D from 1970/71 either

Edited by dave34m, 26 January 2013 - 03:53.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:50

no Fittipaldi (first championship) and Lauda (first championship with Ron)?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 20:03

Now wouldn't it be great if they got the cars out of the museum and paraded them at the Silverstone GP.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 21:02

Why is the 1970 M7A shown with No 1, I think thats the 1968 Denny Hulme car. They haven't shown the M14A or D from 1970/71 either

You're right. And of course there wasn't an M19 in 1969.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 21:34

Now wouldn't it be great if they got the cars out of the museum and paraded them at the Silverstone GP.


You will find a large number of them are now sitting at McLaren dealerships around the world, each usually with a special attachment to the country they reside.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 21:45

You will find a large number of them are now sitting at McLaren dealerships around the world, each usually with a special attachment to the country they reside.


Are they the real thing?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 21:49

You will find a large number of them are now sitting at McLaren dealerships around the world, each usually with a special attachment to the country they reside.


Not in New Zealand though ): The Bruce McLaren Trust does a fantastic job though. Saw some beautiful Can Am cars running today.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 21:50

Are they the real thing?


Not sure, i'd like to hope they are the true chassis to that particular car but i doubt the engine and gearbox are present.

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Now, with the launch of the 12C, more of those dust sheets are being pulled off and the treasures of Unit 2 will be seen far more widely. McLaren is opening 35 showrooms by the end of 2012 to supply its new sports car and every one will have a Unit 2 car on display when it opens: not a plastic dummy, but a genuine race car: one that bites.

http://www.mclarenau...ide-unit-2.aspx

Edited by JRizzle86, 26 January 2013 - 22:18.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 22:03




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Posted 26 January 2013 - 22:18

Seems a bit odd not to have the 1990 MP4/5b, was quite a bit different to the 1989 MP4/5 and Senna won the world title in it! They have the 17 and 17d there!!


Likewise the odd inclusion of the MP4-19, which was practically a midfield car.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 22:24

Likewise the odd inclusion of the MP4-19, which was practically a midfield car.


Think they have tried to represent at least one car per season, people forget about the MP4-18 debacle "the car that never raced" and the fact the heavily modified MP4-17, the 17-D was brought in instead.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 00:11

Not sure, i'd like to hope they are the true chassis to that particular car but i doubt the engine and gearbox are present.

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Now, with the launch of the 12C, more of those dust sheets are being pulled off and the treasures of Unit 2 will be seen far more widely. McLaren is opening 35 showrooms by the end of 2012 to supply its new sports car and every one will have a Unit 2 car on display when it opens: not a plastic dummy, but a genuine race car: one that bites.

http://www.mclarenau...ide-unit-2.aspx


Correct!

There is a McLaren dealership 5 minutes from where I live and I can assure you that the MP4/5 in the showroom is absolutely the real thing, raced by Prost, from unit 2. Engine and gearbox included, correct 'Personal' steering wheel and digital instrument panel. And it's lovely!



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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:29

Correct!

There is a McLaren dealership 5 minutes from where I live and I can assure you that the MP4/5 in the showroom is absolutely the real thing, raced by Prost, from unit 2. Engine and gearbox included, correct 'Personal' steering wheel and digital instrument panel. And it's lovely!


Great :up:

McLaren has designed truly some amazing cars over the arc of their rich history. Loved the wall of monoposti, despite some misses.



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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:18

Correct!

There is a McLaren dealership 5 minutes from where I live and I can assure you that the MP4/5 in the showroom is absolutely the real thing, raced by Prost, from unit 2. Engine and gearbox included, correct 'Personal' steering wheel and digital instrument panel. And it's lovely!


Great to hear, i remember seeing the McLaren dealership at Knutsford and they had an early West era McLaren there. Think it was an MP4-13 but not fully sure.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 11:55

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 13:22

Where's the Can Am McLarens?
Not that anyone would notice......

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 13:24

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Beauties :up:

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 16:49

Where's the Can Am McLarens?
Not that anyone would notice......


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In many cases, the cars have a specific link with the location. The dealership in Brussels will get a 2004 MP4/19: Kimi Raikkonen won the Belgian Grand Prix for McLaren that year in that car. Ayrton Senna won the 1993 Monaco Grand Prix in the MP4/8, so that's what you'll see in the principality. James Hunt won the 1976 US Grand Prix in a McLaren M26, you'll find one in the Philadelphia dealership. Not all heritage cars are from Formula 1 competition: Dallas gets a McLaren M16 from the same era, one of the greatest-ever Indy cars with three victories in the legendary race.

They don't seem to be limited to F1 cars, chances are if any of the Can Am cars are still in McLaren ownership they probably already are.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 23:52

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Oh, that is good for the soul