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#101 Wander

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:29

The shapes of it I really like, but the livery is a bit dull.

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#102 Obi Offiah

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:37

Livery much better :wave:

but painting your car asphalt grey - not ideal for maximum tv visibility :p

C32 Stealth Sauber, you'll be asking yourself where it came from when your overtaken. ;)

#103 Obi Offiah

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:41

....looks like a big grey wiener.

I'm in the 'like it' camp.

You like some big grey wiener? :lol:

#104 Mc_Silver

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:48

You like some big grey wiener? :lol:


OMG :p

#105 Obi Offiah

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:50

I think its a great looking car particularly shape wise, just waiting for more photos to emerge.

#106 Obi Offiah

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:51

OMG :p

And they've cut the top off it. :eek: :lol:

#107 F.M.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:51

I think its a great looking car particularly shape wise, just waiting for more photos to emerge.

Yeah, I want a top view!

#108 Francesc

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:53

The whole front of the car is lower than last year. Looks like they're trying to improve their mechanical grip by lowering the center of gravity as their struggled a lot on low speed tracks. Maybe at the expent of some downforce but looking at those sidepods I don't think so.

#109 fatd

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 12:55

Wow, totally love the livery!! :love: :love:

#110 senna da silva

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:13

Beautiful, best looking car and livery yet.

#111 One

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:14

Can someone find a shot seen from the top of the car?
It looks like the side pods have a lot smaller front end... Rear end looks also very tightly packed in.

#112 bauss

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:21

I like the livery...much better than the bland white...

#113 BernieEc

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:30

lovely looking car. All the cars this year look nice, well with the exception of the step nose of the Lotus.

#114 Szoelloe

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:39

You like some big grey wiener? :lol:


LOL der wiener schnitzel


#115 Massa

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:39

Those sideposts are FANTASTIC.

#116 JRizzle86

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:51

lovely looking car. All the cars this year look nice, well with the exception of the step nose of the Lotus.


I wonder if the ugly ducking will be alone this year.

#117 CatInTheBag

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 13:59




Good looking car. Love the grey. Looks pretty slick too.

#118 bub

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:03

Very nice.

#119 MatsNorway

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:05

Good looking car indeed. The side vanes on the nose would deny the air from going out to the sides. They are getting downforce from this. And a lot of turbulence behind it. Will be interesting to see if it stays.


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#120 Fastcake

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:40

Very nice looking car this year :up: Sauber's livery's have been a bit dull in recent years, but this one is fantastic. The grey is surprisingly good, hope they have another good year :)

#121 Shiroo

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:42

so they confirmed that they will try to run DRD. Only McLaren said that they already dropped the idea?

#122 F1Champion

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:44

A very nice looking car, but I'm wondering why they moved away from their rear exhaust layout. It was arguably the best design in F1 at the beginning. It generated alot of downforce and kept the rear tyres in excellent shape. Hopefully they can keep their tyre degradation low, but I would have expected a refinement of their existing design rather than switching concept. Good luck to them though.

#123 Anderis

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 14:47

Hmmm, that's 4 cars that are essentially either black or a grey-type colour this year (Lotus, Merc, Sauber and McLaren). The Marussia is going to have a load of black on it as well, I suspect, and the Williams, RBRs and STRs are a dark blue sort of colour. It's not going to be that easy to differentiate many of the cars on the longer camera or overhead shots.

It reminds me 1997. Only 3 cars on the grid weren't dominated by blue/white colour combination.
http://statsf1.com/e...97/modeles.aspx

#124 Matt Somers

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:03

so they confirmed that they will try to run DRD. Only McLaren said that they already dropped the idea?


Andy Green also confirmed to us yesterday that it's not currently a development thread for Force India although they did asses it late 2012 / early 2013

#125 Ferras

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:12

Looks good so far

lovely looking car. All the cars this year look nice, well with the exception of the step nose of the Lotus.

For me, the Force India looked better last year with the stepped nose

#126 muramasa

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:14


Cool livery. :D

But last year's was just too horrible and hilarious. I still remember someone in this forum said sth like "it looks it's been sitting under the bridge for long time" :lol:


#127 FSA

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:20

It's better than the livery before

But how many more grey cars do we need?

#128 OneAndOnly

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:42

The best looking car so far.

#129 mclarensmps

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:45

The best looking car so far.


I share this note. Yet again, Sauber wins the "best rims" competition, too!

#130 tkulla

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:45

It looks to me like they are using a vanity panel, just one with the step contoured into the inside. Otherwise you'd be able to see the step in profile, right?

Edited by tkulla, 02 February 2013 - 15:52.


#131 Starish

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:51

It's better than the livery before

But how many more grey cars do we need?


Ferrari - Red
Mclaren - Chrome and Rocket red
Mercedes - Silver- Aqua marine
Lotus- Black, gold and red
Red Bull - Blue and red
Williams- Blue and white
Force India- White, Green, Red and Orange
Caterham- Green
Marussia- Red and Black
Torro Rosso - Distinctively deep blue with gold and red


SAUBER - GREY.... so it seems one.... one grey car we need.. -.-

#132 Kvothe

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:53

http://www.gptoday.c.....rmula 1 News)

Despite such a drastic reduction in the size of the sidepods, Morris is certain the Sauber has not over-reached itself with the design, even though it took a long time to make the packaging possible.

"Checo had quite a bad accident in Monaco a few years ago and when we got the car back and we saw the sidepod all squashed in, we thought 'I wonder if we could do that?'" said Morris.


LOL

Edited by Kvothe, 02 February 2013 - 15:54.


#133 EvanRainer

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 15:55

I can't understand what people find in these almost monochrome liveries. Great for a road car, boring for a racing livery(and no I am not advocating something extravagant)

But then again I think Williams' current livery is the most boring thing imaginable and people apparently think it's fantastic.

#134 Dolph

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 16:18

why? :confused:


The nose knows?

#135 kNt

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:17

No matter what color the car is, I'd like to see more sponsors in the "open" areas. Overall the car looks very nice and with the cars probably converging in areo perfromance as there are no "new" ideas or loopholes to exploit, the smaller sidepods might give them a little edge.

#136 mtknot

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:20

I think newey will be envious of the sidepod packaging.

Doesn't having almost no sidepod net more airflow volume to the rear than an coanda EBD?

#137 fabr68

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:36

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That is a very clever way to keep the front nose aesthetics while maintaining the step for whatever aerodynamic purposes.

I have a feeling pretty much everybody will be copying this concept. (like they did with the exhausts last year)

Edited by fabr68, 02 February 2013 - 17:37.


#138 ApexMouse

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:41

Surely they wouldnt give a cat's bagel about aesthetics? Its to stop air spilling over the side of the nose, according to GA.

#139 selespeed

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:53

The best looking car so far.


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#140 mclarensmps

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:54

The more I look at this car, the more I like it... such an underrated team...

#141 charly0418

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 17:54

As for passive DRS they tested it in last years Young Driver test with Frijns and Gutierrez. Of course they're not gonna show it on the launch.

The Sauber as always is one of the most interesting cars when the season opens, problem is they always slow down considerably at the end of the season

#142 FNG

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 18:25

Nicest looking car so far for sure!

#143 Bunchies

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 18:31

Hulk and Koba, now that would be a real team.


:up: :up:

#144 ApexMouse

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 18:33

Would be interesting to see a comparison between the F138 and C32, to see the differences in sidepods. The Sauber's appear tiny in comparison. A beautiful car, I love being a fan of this team.

Edited by ApexMouse, 02 February 2013 - 18:34.


#145 apoka

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 20:42

A very nice looking car, but I'm wondering why they moved away from their rear exhaust layout. It was arguably the best design in F1 at the beginning. It generated alot of downforce and kept the rear tyres in excellent shape. Hopefully they can keep their tyre degradation low, but I would have expected a refinement of their existing design rather than switching concept. Good luck to them though.

Good point. Sometimes, it's better to have an overall slower car as long as it has particular strengths - especially in the midfield this can earn you surprise podiums. I hope the car is still good on its tyres.


#146 KinetiK

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 20:51

Terrible livery. Grey is so 1997.

What about...

Orange?
Yellow?
Green?
Gold?
Purple?
Pink?
Blue?
Lavender?





#147 BigCHrome

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 20:56

Great car. Too bad they don't have the financial clout of the big teams. I wonder how good they could've been if they had Ferrari's budget.

#148 bogi

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 21:57

The best looking 2013 car so far :up:

#149 race addicted

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 22:12

Great looking car, but I have to say I absolutely don't understand why they moved away from their exhaust lay-out from last year! I always thought that was one of the main reasons for their often strong results. Obviously they believe what they have now can be better, but that must've been a bold decision.

#150 OwenC93

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 23:02

http://www.gptoday.c.....rmula 1 News)



LOL

He may joke. But looking at this image it seems the only way the new radiators could fit.
http://www4.pictures..._aFTQ9KbD-l.jpg