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#51 gm914

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:16

every driver will look bad in an HRT

And why was he in an HRT?

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#52 mprtc

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:19

And why was he in an HRT?


alonso , webber was also in minardi at one point , so that means any driver in a small team is bad . now is getting oppurtunity in a big team , so what about that ?

Edited by mprtc, 09 February 2013 - 16:20.


#53 gm914

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:22

alonso , webber was also in minardi at one point , so that means any driver in a small team is bad . now is getting oppurtunity in a big team , so what about that ?

Not at the age of 36 they weren't. Come on man. If the guy had a shred of talent he'd have moved up long ago. You know this.

Keep bashing DiResta though :rolleyes:

#54 Massa_f1

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:26

It really does my head in, when drivers like Narain get chance after chance because of money. Yet decent f1 drivers such as Glock and Hekki, have to give up because they have no cash to bring :down:

Edited by Massa_f1, 09 February 2013 - 16:27.


#55 mprtc

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:27

Not at the age of 36 they weren't. Come on man. If the guy had a shred of talent he'd have moved up long ago. You know this.

Keep bashing DiResta though :rolleyes:


we will see who ends whose career :wave:

#56 P123

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:32

It really does my head in, when drivers like Narain get chance after chance because of money. Yet decent f1 drivers such as Glock and Hekki, have to give up because they have no cash to bring :down:


That's sponsors for you. Tata would get better coverage through better results if their money helped somebody like Heikki or Sutil into the seat. Karthikeyan look half-decent back in '05, but he's not even the driver now that he was then. It would be a waste of a seat.

#57 Crossmax

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:34

I cannot believe you guys seriously think he will land a race seat... It just won't happen.

#58 ApexMouse

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:37

we will see who ends whose career :wave:


Well one's career is already over. So....

#59 olliek88

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:46

every driver will look bad in an HRT


Well he was comfortably beaten by Tonio and Pedro, both of whom were average drivers, at best.

Pedro's qualy laps in Monaco and Suzuka were outstanding but otherwise Narain is a nice guy but not suited/good enough for F1 IMHO.

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#60 understeer

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:51

If FI were to select 2nd driver based on pure talent it would be done by now. There is definitely something wrong within the team financially.

#61 BoschKurve

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:53

There'd be something fun about seeing Karthikeyan on a midfield team again.

I hope he gets the FI seat just so I can be amused for 19-20 races.

#62 Longtimefan

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:54

It really does my head in, when drivers like Narain get chance after chance because of money. Yet decent f1 drivers such as Glock and Hekki, have to give up because they have no cash to bring :down:


Agreed. Kamui out too.. It's silly.

If they are desperate for an Indian driver, I'd rather hire Karun Chandhok


#63 mprtc

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 16:57

karun chandok has to be one of the worst drivers of all time in the history of F1 ... i dont know what special he has done in his career as i have followed his career closley and i am not talking only of F1

Edited by mprtc, 09 February 2013 - 16:59.


#64 Anderis

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 17:09

Maybe Chandhok hasn't done anything special, but he has scored plenty of podiums in GP2 and was not clearly outperformed by Bruno at HRT. Naming him as one of the worst drivers of all time in the history of F1 is big exaggeration IMO.

But still, skill-wise drivers like Kobayashi, Kovalainen, Glock or Sutil and Bianchi perhaps too, are at least one tier above. But Kartikheyan? I don't know.

#65 Sin

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 17:56

the good thing if Karthikeyan joins Force India: both the Sutil and the Bianchi faction will be equally pissed :o so thats fair xD

#66 Bloggsworth

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 18:11

I don't think that you can judge any F1 driver unless or until they get in a competetive car - Everyone looks iffy trailing around at the back of the field - I just recall Chandhoks first GP qualifying, having never turned a serious lap in the car, he went out and gave it some real wellie, nothing tentative, no pussyfooting and saying its the car, he went for it.

#67 lustigson

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 20:25

He was never exactly TERRIBLE when he drove for Jordan, and trying to gauge anything from a drive in an HRT is pointless.

He's hardly the greatest but not sure why some people are reacting like this is the return of Ide.

Good point. I'd be curious how Karthikeyan would perform in a decent mid-field car against Di Resta.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 20:33

It's not really a good point at all, MSC was reigning WDC in 2005. Now he's retired. Karthikeyan isn't incompetent on a race circuit, simply slow, and he won't be any quicker now.

Edited by Disgrace, 09 February 2013 - 20:34.


#69 Fastcake

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 20:58

It really does my head in, when drivers like Narain get chance after chance because of money. Yet decent f1 drivers such as Glock and Hekki, have to give up because they have no cash to bring :down:


It's even worse when there's far more competent drivers who do have money behind them and yet Narain is considered for the seat - if he truly is of course. I do hope this is nothing more than idle gossip.

#70 SpartanChas

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:00

Paul and Narain both managed a fourth place finish and Jordan weren't as competitive in 05 as Force India has been in the last two years.

In all seriousness though, I would much rather see bianchi in that car. I still think he's got the best shot.

Edited by SpartanChas, 09 February 2013 - 21:01.


#71 AJFIN

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:03

I'm curious. I'd like to see how Karthikeyan would do in a decent car. It's still going to be Bianchi, though.

#72 Juan Kerr

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:06

Like I said before since F1 has gone all money saving orientated it has been all about bringing money in via drivers, whoever decided to wreck the sport like this should run away to a far away place nowhere near motorsport.

#73 Myrvold

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:14

Like I said before since F1 has gone all money saving orientated it has been all about bringing money in via drivers, whoever decided to wreck the sport like this should run away to a far away place nowhere near motorsport.


Well, who wrecked the western economy?

#74 gm914

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:16

Well, who wrecked the western economy?

Paul Di Resta, probably.

#75 lustigson

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:21

It's still going to be Bianchi, though.


That's what I think, too. After all, he did drive the new car.

#76 TheUltimateWorrier

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:23

At least pay-drivers like Gutierrez, Chilton, Razia and others are have unknown potential. It's not like Karthikeyan is suddenly going to be a late-bloomer and turn out to be this generation's Nigel Mansell :p . I imagine a Di Resta/Karthikeyan team battle would be like Rosberg/Nakajima in 2009.

Weird.. most of the forum loves Paul di Resta.

Weird. . . I would never have come to that conclusion reading posts on this forum :lol:

I'd welcome this.

Looked quite good in 2005.

Lil' Kim looked quite good in 2005. Times change.

#77 weareracing

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:50

Please, no reference to Narain's 4th place in 2005!!
A 6 car US GP with a Ferrari 1-2 (Schumacher & Barrichello in formation), a Jordan 3-4 (Monteiro AHEAD of Karthikeyan, both one lap down) and Minardi coming home 5 & 6 (2 laps down).
I'm sure there are "reasons" for linking Narain with the possibilty of the drive, but Bianchi looks the more likely selection.

#78 Jimisgod

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 21:56

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Please. Even Chandok looked better.

Monteiro smacked him in 2005. Forget Indy and the only Jordan points came from Tiago.

Might as well get Diniz back.

Edited by Jimisgod, 09 February 2013 - 22:02.


#79 joshb

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:23

At least in a force india he might not get lapped in some events....

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#80 gm914

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:34

At least in a force india he might not get lapped in some events....

...parade laps.

#81 Myrvold

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 23:03

Please, no reference to Narain's 4th place in 2005!!
A 6 car US GP with a Ferrari 1-2 (Schumacher & Barrichello in formation), a Jordan 3-4 (Monteiro AHEAD of Karthikeyan, both one lap down) and Minardi coming home 5 & 6 (2 laps down).
I'm sure there are "reasons" for linking Narain with the possibilty of the drive, but Bianchi looks the more likely selection.


I'm surprised that it actually took 50 minutes before someone only read the first line of the post, and then forgot to read the second...

#82 Ferras

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 23:20

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
This would make the season fun and I'm pretty sure he would have a chance against Paul

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 23:54

Myrvold, I read BOTH and I UNDERSTOOD both.
Hence MY last line.............or did YOU just read the 1st line of MY post......... :kiss:

#84 Kingshark

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:20

Wow, just wow.

To see a pathetic F1 driver like Karthikeyan drive for any team, let alone a team on the level of Force India, would be a laughing stock. :lol:

If they really want an Indian, I'd give it to some young driver like Armaan Ebrahim.

#85 aray

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:13

Wow, just wow.

To see a pathetic F1 driver like Karthikeyan drive for any team, let alone a team on the level of Force India, would be a laughing stock. :lol:

If they really want an Indian, I'd give it to some young driver like Armaan Ebrahim.

Ebrahim didn't win a race during his 3 years stint in GP3.. :stoned:

Edited by aray, 10 February 2013 - 03:13.


#86 Kingshark

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:22

I never said he was any good, just that at least Ebrahim is young, and however he turns out, he is still a better occupant of that seat than a 36-year old whose never proven anything in F1.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:34

What is Ferrari's fascination with Bianchi? He's not even Italian.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:39

What is Ferrari's fascination with Bianchi? He's not even Italian.


He has his flashes sometimes but I agree he doesn't seem that special. Nevertheless, I would bet my house with my family inside that Bianchi can beat Karthikeyan any day!!!!

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:50

NNNNNNNArain?

Not a chance in hell

#90 Francesc

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:02

What is Ferrari's fascination with Bianchi? He's not even Italian.


His manager is Nicolas Todt.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:27

His manager is Nicolas Todt.


He was Massa's too wasn't he?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:34

Yep.

Taki Inoue tweeted that Tata wants to supply engines badged as jaguar. Don't know just how much salt to take that with then....

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:38

Yep.

Taki Inoue tweeted that Tata wants to supply engines badged as jaguar. Don't know just how much salt to take that with then....


Take a trip to the Bonneville Salt Flats, then you might get somewhere near the amount of salt you need to take with that comment.

#94 Ravenak

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 12:53

Bianchi seems to be fast, experienced compared to most young drivers, he has some financial backing AND he has been patient and humble.

I just hope it pays for him in the end, because I believe he will become a great F1 driver.

Edited by Ravenak, 10 February 2013 - 12:54.


#95 BRG

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 20:00

Bianchi seems to be fast, experienced compared to most young drivers, he has some financial backing AND he has been patient and humble.

I just hope it pays for him in the end, because I believe he will become a great F1 driver.

Why is Bianchi so hyped? People complain about di Resta being hyped, but never Bianchi. Yet he failed to win GP2, and even failed to win the less competitive GP2 Asia, and then failed to win WSR. All a bit Heikki, I reckon. At best a midfielder.

#96 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 20:02

Why is Bianchi so hyped? People complain about di Resta being hyped, but never Bianchi. Yet he failed to win GP2, and even failed to win the less competitive GP2 Asia, and then failed to win WSR. All a bit Heikki, I reckon. At best a midfielder.

Agreed. Would much rather see Sutil back in that car.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 20:14

What is Ferrari's fascination with Bianchi? He's not even Italian.


They preferred to keep him instead of Perez, in this link they explain some of the reasons, it's only in italian though, i'm sorry.

http://www.omnicorse...per-un-top-team

#98 Ravenak

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 21:21

Why is Bianchi so hyped? People complain about di Resta being hyped, but never Bianchi. Yet he failed to win GP2, and even failed to win the less competitive GP2 Asia, and then failed to win WSR. All a bit Heikki, I reckon. At best a midfielder.


Not winning a lower category doesn't mean you can't become a great F1 driver, others have succeeded before.

Plus, he finished runner up in both FR3.5 and GP2 (losing the latter to Frijns very unfairly). Performance-wise, he has proven to be a very good and fast driver.

Nobody is trying to 'hype' him, he just deserves a chance, that's all.

Edited by Ravenak, 10 February 2013 - 21:22.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 21:34

Not winning a lower category doesn't mean you can't become a great F1 driver, others have succeeded before.

Plus, he finished runner up in both FR3.5 and GP2 (losing the latter to Frijns very unfairly). Performance-wise, he has proven to be a very good and fast driver.

Nobody is trying to 'hype' him, he just deserves a chance, that's all.


I agree.

If Koba and Sutil had chances, why not Bianchi?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 22:17

Force India is not going to give a racing drive to Karthikeyan and Karthikeyan is not going to give away his money for a testing role (without any tests) so this simply is not going to happen.