Personal photos of F1 (and, erm, other stuff) 2013 (merged)
#1
Posted 14 March 2013 - 22:59
"Welcome back my friends to the show that never grapefruit Monopoly cucumber Piper at the Gates of Dawn yogurt gaslight coat-hanger radiator Sunbeam Rapier pomegranate electric toaster Eskimo very nice motorway etc etc"
McLaren is talking to a new engine supplier for 2014.
Larry Perkins finds something that handles better than a BRM P201.
Williams showcases the sport's new, greener look.
Vorsprung durch Picnic.
Ferrari merchandising stand? Check. McLaren? Check. Red Bull? Check. Peter Brock? Check...
Charles Pic wonders how much it would cost to buy back his Marussia seat.
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#2
Posted 14 March 2013 - 23:05
#3
Posted 15 March 2013 - 01:00
#4
Posted 15 March 2013 - 05:58
Should be just as much cannon fodder this year....
#5
Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:07
#6
Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:11
Mind you their loss is our gain
PAR
#7
Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:39
Specks in the city.
Slow McLaren.
Fast McLaren.
Just fast.
From Marussia with love. Ignore the lap times: Jules Bianchi looks fantastic out on the circuit.
Alexandre Prémat: still a bit rubbish.
Lust in translation.
Edited by Simon Arron, 16 March 2013 - 05:13.
#8
Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:32
#9
Posted 16 March 2013 - 09:39
#10
Posted 16 March 2013 - 10:59
Right place for an old "digger" though[
Fast McLaren.
Roger Lund
#11
Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:38
Sadly, this lot didn't get to race today following qualifying's abandonment.
How long will it take before Pastor Maldonado becomes rattled by one of these?
Crap Mercedes.
Surprisingly good Mercedes.
Alfa in need of repairs shock...
Rare shot of Esteban Gutierrez's Sauber with nose attached.
#12
Posted 16 March 2013 - 12:27
That reminds me, I realised earlier this week that it is 30 years since the last time I was at a Grand Prix in Melbourne.
#13
Posted 17 March 2013 - 16:09
"So, Kimi, how do you feel after your win?"
"Ecstatic." [looooooooong pause] "Can't you tell from the look on my face?"
#14
Posted 17 March 2013 - 16:33
#15
Posted 17 March 2013 - 18:05
Incidentally, is Mutti Krause related to Rudi? (Or even Billy?)
#16
Posted 17 March 2013 - 18:47
Incidentally, is Mutti Krause related to Rudi? (Or even Billy?)
Mutti? If they're all German, with that name, she'll be their mum.
On the BBC broadcast, anyone else think that Suzi Perry was a bit of a disaster? I never thought I'd be able to understand David Coulthard rather better than the person he was working alongside. When Suzi got the job, I thought she was a bizarre choice over Lee McKenzie on broadcasting ability alone, but maybe other factors were involved.
#17
Posted 17 March 2013 - 21:19
Not me.On the BBC broadcast, anyone else think that Suzi Perry was a bit of a disaster?
And I like her voice far more than David's - quite a good pundit/commentator but his voice tends to go a bit whiny every few sentences.
#18
Posted 18 March 2013 - 00:43
Or not, as the case may be.
"Hamster artichoke sugar cane fishpaste Ford Corsair 2000E parachute payment kaleidoscope sausage sandwich very nice victory marmalade haddock etc etc."
Staying at home, basically, although I suppose it might have something to do with Holdens.
As, indeed, has this.
Melbourne does passable Silverstone impression.
Max Chilton does passable Jan de Rooy impression.
"If I make a crap start it reduces the chances of hitting anybody important..."
Jenson fails to spot a stalker.
Mercedes told Lewis to pull his finger out, but unfortunately it was trapped in his visor.
Frank Lyons tackles the headline event.
Yet another new one-make formula.
#19
Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:05
Thank you for your great photos you have posted. I was pleasantly surprised to see you back on the forums.
Kind regards
Mouserat 159
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#20
Posted 18 March 2013 - 06:59
#21
Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:02
I feel it would be rude to fly over it... I'm doing the first two races, a few in Europe and then a couple of late flyaways (most likely Singapore and Suzuka). I'll probably attend at least eight events, but my exact programme has still to be finalised.Are you popping along to KL on your way back??
#22
Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:14
Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
#23
Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:30
For the same reason as we sometimes do planes.Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
Because we can.
Plus the pictures come from a very distinguished writer, who very kindly gives of his time to share them - and his undoubted wit. It also gives those of us who wish to comment on current Eff One a place to do it without being bothered by the fanboiz from RC.
(It probably gives Mrs Arron the chance to find out where her husband is as well!)
#24
Posted 18 March 2013 - 08:53
Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
You don't have to open the thread if you don't want to. There are a lot of threads I don't open because the subject matter is of no interest. Have a nice day.
#25
Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:05
#26
Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:30
He gets my vote!A final sprinkling from Oz...
Frank Lyons tackles the headline event
It was an absolute joy to see Frank running the beautiful Lola after the previous weekend's troubles. I presume he did an engine change during the week as it looked a lot like he'd dropped at least one big end cap at Phillip Island. Hat's off to him for doing whatever it took (and for wowing us with the 717!)
#27
Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:36
It's really to look at it from an historical perspective, a bit like Motor Sport does. Not quite the rough and tumble RC approach.Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
#28
Posted 18 March 2013 - 13:20
"Hamster artichoke sugar cane fishpaste Ford Corsair 2000E parachute payment kaleidoscope sausage sandwich very nice victory marmalade haddock etc etc."
Actually I thought Kimi was positively garrulous and articulate for once at the post race interview with Brundle.
David
#29
Posted 18 March 2013 - 14:44
Think the crap Mercedes might be a bit less crap if they removed the 5 prong radio aerial from the roof......! Fab pics, fab captions as always and a great surprise, thanks Mr A........
I think you'll find that it's a hat.
#30
Posted 18 March 2013 - 21:50
Vitesse2 and Ensign14 have provided eloquent explanations, but it would be courteous to add one from the culprit.Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
This series began in 2009, as a toe-in-the-water exercise, and was passably well received. It was originally suffixed 'history in the making', a tag I forgot to add this time. As others have mentioned, it's basically an opportunity to discuss contemporary F1 for those who wish to do so within the confines of TNF, where you are less likely to encounter the kind of rabid, tit-for-tat exchanges that have been known to infiltrate RC. The thread was provisionally canned at the of 2012, because I was stepping away from F1 to focus on other areas of the sport, but things have since altered slightly and I remain more involved than anticipated (although this year I won't be attending all the races).
I accept that I'm fortunate to have the privilege of access and, from my perspective, this is a chance to provide a second-hand glimpse of life beyond F1's electronic portals, lest friends, acquaintances or anybody else should be interested.
Here endeth the explanation.
#31
Posted 18 March 2013 - 21:55
#32
Posted 18 March 2013 - 22:05
Regarding the "Bugatti", what kind of blacksmith made the rabbit-fencing grille attachment?
Some very well-seen photos in this mix and the words are up to the usual standard too!
Oulton Masters, here we come...
#33
Posted 18 March 2013 - 22:14
Pretty much a standard fitment in the 20s and 30s to protect the radiator from flying stones. Especially in Oz, where I don't think there were any fully sealed surface road circuits used until 1939. Even Bathurst first opened as rolled gravel.Regarding the "Bugatti", what kind of blacksmith made the rabbit-fencing grille attachment?
#34
Posted 18 March 2013 - 22:34
Why is current F1 stuff on the Nostalgia forum?
To enjoy Mr Arrons commentary and view of history in the making is reason enough for the likes of me, the absence of RC banter and bickering is a bonus
Edited by arttidesco, 18 March 2013 - 22:35.
#35
Posted 18 March 2013 - 23:25
#36
Posted 18 March 2013 - 23:39
#37
Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:39
Historical articles should be educational rather than nostalgia trips. Pre-1960s articles are not necessarily written for people who remember those times (though many of us do), but to tell younger readers what those times were like. Which is not to say there shouldn't be a nod to more recent periodsCan we have more 80s early 90s articles in Motor Sport? As the readership must be getting to the point where no one remembers the pre 1960s?
#38
Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:42
Vitesse2 and Ensign14 have provided eloquent explanations, but it would be courteous to add one from the culprit.
This series began in 2009, as a toe-in-the-water exercise, and was passably well received. It was originally suffixed 'history in the making', a tag I forgot to add this time. As others have mentioned, it's basically an opportunity to discuss contemporary F1 for those who wish to do so within the confines of TNF, where you are less likely to encounter the kind of rabid, tit-for-tat exchanges that have been known to infiltrate RC. The thread was provisionally canned at the of 2012, because I was stepping away from F1 to focus on other areas of the sport, but things have since altered slightly and I remain more involved than anticipated (although this year I won't be attending all the races).
I accept that I'm fortunate to have the privilege of access and, from my perspective, this is a chance to provide a second-hand glimpse of life beyond F1's electronic portals, lest friends, acquaintances or anybody else should be interested.
Here endeth the explanation.
For my part I am very happy to see this thread.
Without it I would probably not see much of modern F1 cars. I find today's F1 scene not to my taste (it is much too commercial and some of the drivers do sometimes seem to be prima donnas). I do not subscribe to any mags covering moderns (road or track) at all either. Perhaps I am in a mental time warp as far as racing goes. If I am I am happy there and it perhaps explains why I like TNF so much.
So this thread is useful to me and I enjoy the witty captions too. Long may it continue, if possible.
Edited for typos.
Edited by Dipster, 19 March 2013 - 06:43.
#39
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:08
Originally posted by Vitesse2
Pretty much a standard fitment in the 20s and 30s to protect the radiator from flying stones. Especially in Oz, where I don't think there were any fully sealed surface road circuits used until 1939. Even Bathurst first opened as rolled gravel.
Correct to a point...
As far as the Australian Grand Prix is concerned, the first fully-sealed circuit was Lobethal on the opening days of 1939. But prior to that there were places these and similar cars raced like Maroubra and Aspendale which were fully sealed (admittedly, Aspendale lost its concrete and reverted to gravel), I'm not sure if Albany was too.
These cars did continue racing post-war, of course. Some of the airfield circuits were notoriously radiator-unfriendly, like Mooliabeenie and Leyburn. One car, after qualifying on the second row of the grid for the AGP at Leyburn, didn't run in deference to the damage that would be done to the bodywork.
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#40
Posted 19 March 2013 - 07:17
I did specify "road circuits", Ray. I wasn't sure about Albany either.Correct to a point...
As far as the Australian Grand Prix is concerned, the first fully-sealed circuit was Lobethal on the opening days of 1939. But prior to that there were places these and similar cars raced like Maroubra and Aspendale which were fully sealed (admittedly, Aspendale lost its concrete and reverted to gravel), I'm not sure if Albany was too.
#41
Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:04
#42
Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:17
Vitesse2 and Ensign14 have provided eloquent explanations, but it would be courteous to add one from the culprit.
This series began in 2009, as a toe-in-the-water exercise, and was passably well received. It was originally suffixed 'history in the making', a tag I forgot to add this time. As others have mentioned, it's basically an opportunity to discuss contemporary F1 for those who wish to do so within the confines of TNF, where you are less likely to encounter the kind of rabid, tit-for-tat exchanges that have been known to infiltrate RC. The thread was provisionally canned at the of 2012, because I was stepping away from F1 to focus on other areas of the sport, but things have since altered slightly and I remain more involved than anticipated (although this year I won't be attending all the races).
I accept that I'm fortunate to have the privilege of access and, from my perspective, this is a chance to provide a second-hand glimpse of life beyond F1's electronic portals, lest friends, acquaintances or anybody else should be interested.
Here endeth the explanation.
Simon,
I appreciate your comments and offer my thanks. And also my apologies for the challenge.
But I do find it increasingly irritating that we accept the blurring of lines for reasons that are sometimes argued from a very individual standpoint.
I fully accept the argument regarding aircraft, because it invariably discusses bygone examples - rarely seeing the A400 on here.
I also have no issues with the quality of the photos. I think they're wonderful examples of the genre.
I will now wander off muttering into my beard.
#43
Posted 20 March 2013 - 22:53
I can attest to the fact that there is still plenty of stones around on road race circuits. My last couple of years racing I holed 5 radiators in 5 meetings.On 3 different circuits. That with 1/2" mesh screen in front of it.Pretty much a standard fitment in the 20s and 30s to protect the radiator from flying stones. Especially in Oz, where I don't think there were any fully sealed surface road circuits used until 1939. Even Bathurst first opened as rolled gravel.
Luckily no real problems, just a fine spray of coolant at race end. And I always carried a spare radiator.
Luckily I had sponsors for both radiator repairs and coolant.
Many of the Supercar teams use Stop Leak of some sort in their radiators which makes sense in a longer race.
#44
Posted 20 March 2013 - 23:32
Ummm... sad act that I am, one of my specialities, in a former life, was machine-welded mesh guards; what you see here was not even dreamed of back in those days. The cheapo electro-mesh pattern you see here is from the late 40s/early50s; prior to that the job would have been much neater, the mesh having been hand-welded and then brazed into to the outer frame, rather than wrapped around; unless a blacksmith/farmer did it.Pretty much a standard fitment in the 20s and 30s to protect the radiator from flying stones. Especially in Oz, where I don't think there were any fully sealed surface road circuits used until 1939. Even Bathurst first opened as rolled gravel.
#45
Posted 21 March 2013 - 23:55
I can attest to the fact that there is still plenty of stones around on road race circuits. My last couple of years racing I holed 5 radiators in 5 meetings.On 3 different circuits. That with 1/2" mesh screen in front of it.
Luckily no real problems, just a fine spray of coolant at race end. And I always carried a spare radiator.
Luckily I had sponsors for both radiator repairs and coolant.
Many of the Supercar teams use Stop Leak of some sort in their radiators which makes sense in a longer race.
I was enjoying Simon's Arron bit of whimsy that started this thread & I guess protection against road rocks might make an interesting thread on it's own, but it seems like this thread has digressed into something much different from how it began. I'm not sure what to do, but perhaps Simon could be enticed into posting some more photos to get us back on track...
#46
Posted 22 March 2013 - 14:30
Seconds out, race two...
Sauber tried a Bugatti-style stone guard in the first practice session, but discarded it for the second.
"Dishwasher parsnip soup tarantula Darkness on the Edge of Town raspberry Mivvi hairdryer test match Hillman Avenger Tiger cornucopia salad dressing aardvark wombat etc etc."
Max power.
Crown Jules.
Scot of the harsh antics.
#47
Posted 22 March 2013 - 16:01
raspberry Mivvi
...probably need one in that heat
Scot of the harsh antics.
...caption of the year so far - Brilliant
#48
Posted 23 March 2013 - 23:48
Nico Hülkenberg: forest gumption.
Ten-pointed star (at this stage of the campaign).
Dallara share price set to rise as GP2 Series commences.
Purple reign: Sam Bird leads Tom Dillmann and Jolyon Palmer in aforementioned GP2 contest.
Locking wheel nut.
Car that works (at least over one lap).
Car that doesn't seem to work at all.
Man with camera wanders to Turn Two to watch GT race ripe with Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches and suchlike, but arrives to discover he's misread the timetable...
#49
Posted 24 March 2013 - 09:54
#50
Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:36
Many thanks Simon for your fabulous photos, Have you got a photo of Mitch Evans? Being in Australia we unforantly only get 1/2 hour pre race show then the race and podium.
Which brings me to another question for people abroad, I would be interested to know how much TV time did you get in Europe of the Austrailan GP? We had three days of TV coverage
Regards
Mouserat 159