Strangest-looking cars of all time
#1
Posted 26 March 2001 - 16:26
I am not great at nostalgia so I'll love to see what ye guys come up with.
Niall
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#2
Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:17
#3
Posted 26 March 2001 - 17:59
Originally posted by david_martin
Rolf Stommelen's Eiffeland would have to go close, I suspect
Game. Set. Match.;)
#4
Posted 26 March 2001 - 18:16
from an aeroplane wing
1923 F1 Bugatti T30 Tank
the tank had a streamlined, all-envoloping body, whitch contributed
to the rigidity of the punt type chassis
very compact and built on a wheelbase of only two metres
#5
Posted 26 March 2001 - 18:18
#6
Posted 26 March 2001 - 18:54
The Eifelland went through several stages of transition, and in its initial shape (South Africa) didn't look all that bad. Lutz Colani certainly blotted his copybook later on...
The Auto Unions and the Alfa Romeo 512 certainly looked strange at their time, although by now they are classics of sort. What about the 'toothpaste tube' Connaught or the DB 'Monomill'?
In later years, the Lola T370 and the Ligier JS5 with their huge airboxes looked strange, and don't forget the Dywa! I could go on and on and on...
#7
Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:03
#8
Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:38
Originally posted by FLB
Well, on further thought, we could add the twin-boom Nardi from 1949
FLB, you mean the Nardi Bisiluro Le Mans car (which was blown over by a passing car...), that should mean 1955.
For F1, a favourite would be the 1955 DB Monomill, another would be the original Tecno PA123 spaceframe car of 1971. Not only is the car looking clumsy (especially the sidepods), it was also probably the silliest F1 car ever (and that includes First, Andrea Moda c.s.!); then the first Tecno was too wide to be legal...
The second PA123 monocoque car was eventually raced by Amon, but that's a different thread!
#9
Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:43
#10
Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:49
David M. Kane, explain yourself.
#11
Posted 26 March 2001 - 19:57
Photographed by me last August in a motor car museum near Antibes in the south of France.
#12
Posted 26 March 2001 - 20:12
Originally posted by Frank de Jong
FLB, you mean the Nardi Bisiluro Le Mans car (which was blown over by a passing car...), that should mean 1955.
Aaaggrh! Thanks, I posted without checking sources.
On another note, does anybody know what happened to Martin Krejci's site? I can't find it nor the new version
#13
Posted 26 March 2001 - 20:13
#14
Posted 26 March 2001 - 20:16
#15
Posted 26 March 2001 - 20:55
Stiil on an "airplane" theme, there's also Ken Hamilton's Eagle Aircraft Flyer from 1982.
#16
Posted 26 March 2001 - 21:07
#17
Posted 26 March 2001 - 21:33
#18
Posted 26 March 2001 - 21:39
Martin Krejci's great site is now www.wspr-racing.com At least for me it's working fine.Originally posted by FLB
On another note, does anybody know what happened to Martin Krejci's site? I can't find it nor the new version
#19
Posted 26 March 2001 - 22:21
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#20
Posted 26 March 2001 - 22:38
#21
Posted 26 March 2001 - 22:58
Originally posted by Boniver
1923 F1 Voisin "Laboratoire" had a strange profile like a section
from an aeroplane wing
1923 F1 Bugatti T30 Tank
the tank had a streamlined, all-envoloping body, whitch contributed
to the rigidity of the punt type chassis
very compact and built on a wheelbase of only two metres
Was the 1923 Bugatti, the T30? Paul Shedon says it was, but Hugh Conway says it was the T32. The T30 was an 8-cylinder touring car introduced in 1922, and the designatioon is also given to various racing cars, including the 1922 Grand Prix car which had a barrel-shaped body. Some writers have sugested that the 1922 Grand Prix car was really the T29.
#22
Posted 26 March 2001 - 23:01
#23
Posted 27 March 2001 - 05:31
#24
Posted 27 March 2001 - 06:07
the single rear view mirror was on the previously-decried Eifelland, wasn't it?
#25
Posted 27 March 2001 - 08:49
All enveloping cockpits on open wheel single seaters don't look nice!
#26
Posted 27 March 2001 - 08:56
40 HP race car built 1902 by the General Motor Car Company (no, not that one, this one was located at London). Was not as fast as it looks...!
#27
Posted 27 March 2001 - 12:53
Originally posted by Bernd
The Formula 2 Protos from the mid to late sixties looked.... well strange
All enveloping cockpits on open wheel single seaters don't look nice!
...and wooden framework, IIRC.
#28
Posted 27 March 2001 - 15:52
Bob Abel
Dover DE
USA
#29
Posted 27 March 2001 - 16:14
#30
Posted 27 March 2001 - 16:31
That's OK! I would like to see if anyone else agrees OR disagrees about the Bug. After all, I liked the 1960 Scarab, so maybe my taste is . . .?
Bobbo
#31
Posted 27 March 2001 - 18:17
1956 Bugatti - not too bad - until it tried to go around corners
#32
Posted 27 March 2001 - 19:02
#33
Posted 27 March 2001 - 22:38
The Theodore-Ford TY01
images courtesy Forix
#34
Posted 27 March 2001 - 22:45
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Posted 27 March 2001 - 22:56
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Posted 27 March 2001 - 23:10
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Posted 27 March 2001 - 23:16
#38
Posted 27 March 2001 - 23:58
Wasn't the Theodore a develpment of the older UOP Shadow?? I think I read that somewhere . . .
#39
Posted 28 March 2001 - 00:08
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#40
Posted 28 March 2001 - 02:18
I don't mind it.
#41
Posted 28 March 2001 - 05:13
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#43
Posted 28 March 2001 - 05:57
#44
Posted 28 March 2001 - 06:11
If the money had been there, who knows where this concept might have led to?
And I like it enough to have included it in my Pre-historic slot race series.
#45
Posted 28 March 2001 - 07:21
I would also agree that development might have led to something special coming from it, but not if they clung to pre-war ideas. The weight distribution would have been pretty good, the basic layout probably better than Cooper.
#46
Posted 28 March 2001 - 07:22
However, in a fit of public-spiritedness I decided to try and find pictures of most of the cars named in this thread. Given the download time that some pics can take I decided the easiest way to post them was to simply list the URLs. Besides it saves wasting the time of those who do already know what the cars look like.
I must say this was some of the more enjoyable searching I've done in a while. Some of these cars are truly amazing and I almost feel like one of those guilty voyeurs who flock to the scene of an accident.
In fact, I had so much fun I'm going to start off with two contributions of my own.
Firstly, I present for your edification and delight the Der 3 Achser von Billy de Vore für Indy 500. Now given that my German is nicht zer gut, I'm guessing when I say it was Billy de Vore's car for the Indy 500. Unfortunately, I don't know what year, but if you've ever wanted to see a six-wheeled Indy car (with the extra set of wheels at the rear) then "have I got a deal for you!" See it now at: http://members.aol.c...6057/photos.htm
Next, we have something that's not a racing car, but is worth posting here anyway. However, it does cause me some confusion because it's the Rumpler-Tropfenwagen, 1921 and I'm wondering about it's relationship with the Benz RH "Tropfenwagen" mentioned earlier in the thread. There seems to be more than a suggestion that the Benz was also designed by Rumpler.
Either way the Rumpler is at: http://www.deutsches...er/kfz/kfz2.htm and http://rhein-zeitung...ws/rumpler.html
Now we come to those cars that I could not find pictures of:
- "Hurst Floor Shift Special", 1964
- '61 Emerysons
- Jack Adams Airplane Special
- 1955 DB Monomill
- Dywa
- Rolf Stommelen's Eiffeland
Okay, now on to my originally stated intention of some links to pictures of the cars already mentioned in the thread. I haven't included the cars that already have pictures in the thread.
Now on with the show:
1923 F1 Voisin "Laboratoire" http://pierreg.free....n/voisinlab.jpg and http://www.classics....ages/r00-13.jpg
Connew http://www.f1test.co...ages/conn1c.jpg (from Barry Boor’s story)
Amon F1 http://www.forix.com...0&r=7404030&c=0 and with an entirely different nose at http://www.forix.com...74/06030_RN.JPG
Benz RH "Tropfenwagen" http://www.miniminiera.com/bum/ (bad scale model) or http://www.ddavid.co...ges/tropfen.gif or an entirely different looking version at http://members.aol.c...6057/photos.htm
1903 Winton http://corbis.altavi...mageid=10954847
Monaco of Carlo Trossi (1934) http://www.vuitton.c.../zoom_3_98.html
Lola T370 http://www.forix.com...74/01026_RY.JPG or http://www.forix.com...74/06027_RN.JPG
Ligier JS5 http://www.forix.com...76/01026_ry.jpg
twin-boom Nardi from 1949 According to the website this is a 1955 version, either way it is bizarre. http://www.hartlana....99/g99gr6_2.htm and http://www.hartlana....99/g99gr6_1.htm
Tecno PA123 spaceframe car of 1971 http://www.forix.com...73/05022_RY.JPG (PA123B driven by none other than a Mr C. Amon)
1971 Brabham BT34 http://www.forix.com...7105007_mrr.jpg
ATS 100 http://www.forix.com...63/02026_RN.JPG
Silvio Moser's Bellasi http://www.forix.com...70/05029_8W.JPG
1923 Bugatti T32 http://www.classics....ages/r00-14.jpg (although I think this may be the Tank mentioned in the thread already)
Anyway, I hope at least some of you find the links useful, not to mention amusing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not denigrating the designers of these cars at all. In fact without them attempting wayout ideas innovation would never have happened at all. Mind you, these are some that may not have worked all that well.
Regards
Neil
#47
Posted 28 March 2001 - 07:35
It had totally separated booms, as I recall, more or less joined only by some spars, aircraft style... the idea was to get the driver and engine in line with the wheels to reduce frontal area. Worked, apparently, in the Monza record attempts....
#48
Posted 28 March 2001 - 08:14
At Kylami in the original white colour scheme and with the March 721 nose
http://www.forix.com...72/02025_RY.JPG
At Montjuich Park with the blue livery and new nose
http://www.forix.com...72/03016_RN.JPG
At Clemant Ferrant
http://www.forix.com...72/06010_RN.JPG
At Silverstone
http://www.forix.com...72/07033_RN.JPG
Negotiating the Karussell at the Nurburgring
http://www.forix.com...72/08022_RN.JPG
The Eifelland cropped up in the 8W competition in the not too distant past http://8w.forix.com/8w-22k.html
Where would we be without Forix
#49
Posted 28 March 2001 - 08:27
Thanks David. Boy am I embarrassed that all those pics were hiding on forix and I didn't even manage to find them. I think I'll go throw myself under a Nardi.
And now having seen most of the cars mentioned in this thread I join with those who voted the Eifelland as the strangest of them all - especially in the original nose configuration.
Regards
Neil
#50
Posted 28 March 2001 - 09:04