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#1 FastnLoud

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:17

So if it stays dry teams can start on whatever tyre they want.

Start on Option and then finish on the better Prime race tyre or start on Prime run longer incase of rain?

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#2 choyothe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:18

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Kimi

#3 jrg19

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:19

Alonso Massa Vettel on the podium.

#4 Xeriks

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:24

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Hamilton



#5 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:28

Anyone betting against a Ferrari being first into the first corner?

#6 ArkZ

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:32

Very fast starting Ferraris behind Vettel and long run to the first corner it will be interesting if Vettel will try immediately go to the inside to block at least one car.

Edited by ArkZ, 23 March 2013 - 10:32.


#7 Massa_f1

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:33

My prediction

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Vettel

My ideal result, but wont happen

1. Massa
2. Vettel
3. Webber

#8 choyothe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:33

Anyone betting against a Ferrari being first into the first corner?


Nope.

#9 mlsnoopy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:55

Would something like hard-hard-medium be the best strategy.

#10 Kelateboy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:06

Here's hoping for a wet start to the race behind the safety car! That would be great for Sebastian and not so good for the 2 Ferraris. :D

#11 choyothe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:06

Would something like hard-hard-medium be the best strategy.


hard-hard-hard-medium.

#12 choyothe

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:11

Here's hoping for a wet start to the race behind the safety car! That would be great for Sebastian and not so good for the 2 Ferraris. :D


I'm hoping for that just to see the comments here. :p

#13 MrAerodynamicist

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:17

hard-hard-hard-medium.

I reckon hard-hard-medium-hard might be the better combination; it gives a bit more flexibility if you need to change the length of the medium stint.

#14 Kelateboy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:18

Would something like hard-hard-medium be the best strategy.

56 laps. I would say 3 pitstops to be more likely in the dry with Hard (15 laps) - Hard (15 laps) - Hard (15 laps) - Medium (11 laps) combination.


#15 Sin

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:20

so seemingly Kimi got some kind of penalty

#16 ArkZ

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:24

Hard tires should last a bit longer then 15 lap. Two sets of Hards and also two of Mediums should be ok.

Edited by ArkZ, 23 March 2013 - 11:24.


#17 kedia990

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:26

so seemingly Kimi got some kind of penalty


Kimi handed 3-place Sepang grid penalty for impeding Rosberg in qualifying.

#18 Sin

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:27

Kimi handed 3-place Sepang grid penalty for impeding Rosberg in qualifying.


and what is with the gearbox? was there not something saying that they might need to change Kimis gearbox as well?

#19 Goron3

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:30

Here's hoping for a wet start to the race behind the safety car! That would be great for Sebastian and not so good for the 2 Ferraris. :D


That'd be good for Ferrari too! Merc will come alive in the dry, lotus too.

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#20 Longtimefan

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:34

3 Place grid drop? 3?? Do stewards pull random numbers out of their backsides?

Nothing against Kimi but I thought it was 5 places they dropped?



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:36

3 Place grid drop? 3?? Do stewards pull random numbers out of their backsides?

Nothing against Kimi but I thought it was 5 places they dropped?

No, 3 for minor things
5 for gearbox and reasonable things
10 for engine change and severe things.

#22 Kelateboy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:50

and what is with the gearbox? was there not something saying that they might need to change Kimis gearbox as well?

My understanding is that Raikkonen suffered from a hydraulic pressure loss due to some leakages. It could be fixed without changing the gearbox.

#23 Jimisgod

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:57

1. Alonso
2. Rosberg
3. Kimi

Please.

Edited by Jimisgod, 23 March 2013 - 11:57.


#24 Baddoer

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:01

1. Rosber
2. Sutil
3. Maldonado

#25 JeanClaude

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:02

Vettel and the 2 Ferraris for the podium and maybe Kimi if he gets a great start

Behind that Hamilton, Rosberg, Webber and Sutil can play for best of the rest

JC

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:03

1. Vettel
2. Massa
3. Rosberg

A different prediction. :p

#27 Mc_Silver

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:16

1.Vettel
2.Alonso
3.Hamilton

Edited by Mc_Silver, 23 March 2013 - 12:16.


#28 JRizzle86

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:27

Anyone betting against a Ferrari being first into the first corner?


I'm betting on a change of which Ferrari is in front of the other.

#29 superdelphinus

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:35

Hamilton
rosberg
alonso

:drunk:



#30 Nobody

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:38

Massa
Rosberg
Perez

:smoking:

#31 Fastcake

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:43

1. Rosber
2. Sutil
3. Maldonado


Are they the only three cars who are going to finish? That Williams is going nowhere.

Rooting for Kimi and Lewis tomorrow. Been a long time since I've supported Kimi, but if Lotus really do have a fast car I want them to beat Vettel, not the Ferrari's.

#32 windtravels

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:45

top 6:

massa
alonso
hamilton
vettel
webber
rosberg

#33 SteF1an

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 14:39

Dry
1. Alonso
2. Räikkönen
3. Vettel

Wet
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso

#34 MarileneRiddle

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 14:47

Anyone betting against a Ferrari being first into the first corner?

Me! :wave:

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Felipe Massa
3. Kimi Raikkonen

#35 Kelateboy

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 14:50

No, 3 for minor things5 for gearbox and reasonable things
10 for engine change and severe things.

Does the FIA really have this penalty specified in the regulations?


#36 noikeee

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 14:51

I think in normal conditions for Kimi to repeat the 7th to 1st race at Melbourne would be difficult - he won't always start well then be able to jump 3 drivers through pit strategy. From 10th then it's really really difficult. I expect him to recover a few places because that car in his hands is the quickest, but to make it all the way to the win is too much, maybe a podium at very best. My prediction is he'll come 4th or 5th.

... therefore it's a big fat unknown between Vettel and the 2 Ferraris for the win. I have a feeling it'll be Ferrari's day but will it be Massa or Alonso? Massa has been getting better and better every race and I don't think he can be screwed by strategy every day even if Ferrari favour their Spanish man. I'm gonna stick my neck out and bravely, maybe foolishly, call for a Massa win.

If it's wet all bets are called off. Anyone has weather forecast? Autosport Live used to have a FANTASTIC detailed forecast but they don't do that anymore.

#37 spinne

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 14:57

I think in normal conditions for Kimi to repeat the 7th to 1st race at Melbourne would be difficult - he won't always start well then be able to jump 3 drivers through pit strategy. From 10th then it's really really difficult. I expect him to recover a few places because that car in his hands is the quickest, but to make it all the way to the win is too much, maybe a podium at very best. My prediction is he'll come 4th or 5th.

... therefore it's a big fat unknown between Vettel and the 2 Ferraris for the win. I have a feeling it'll be Ferrari's day but will it be Massa or Alonso? Massa has been getting better and better every race and I don't think he can be screwed by strategy every day even if Ferrari favour their Spanish man. I'm gonna stick my neck out and bravely, maybe foolishly, call for a Massa win.

If it's wet all bets are called off. Anyone has weather forecast? Autosport Live used to have a FANTASTIC detailed forecast but they don't do that anymore.


Kimi
Vettel
Massa

#38 rasul

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:08

What I would like:
1)Massa
2)Lewis
3) Vettel

But it won't happen, so it probably will be:
1)Alonso
2)Massa
3) Vettel (he'll likely lose his P1 to both Ferrari in the first corner. Even if he doesn't, RB's race pace is clearly worse than Ferrari's anyway. It's a lose-lose for him.)

#39 HoldenRT

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:11

It's really curious how the same teams that are fast on inters in the wet.. are the same teams that are slower in the race. If Force India and Lotus are so good, why aren't they quicker in the wet?

And after reading the latest topic about downforce and Pirelli tyres.. it seems with these latest tyres.. the least downforce you have.. the better. Less cornering loads, less temperature generated. Too much downforce = bad. I don't remember that ever being the case in F1 before. So it seems like these current tyres reward poor cars (by F1 standards from a few seasons ago).

You could say.. "oh but these tyres need less downforce so the other teams screwed up".. but it's always been in F1 for the last 10 years.. the more downforce you have, the better. You can always reduce front and rear wing angles to tweak it. The only exception I guess would be Ferrari.. who seem to be reasonably quick in all situations.

In all the years I watched.. the stronger cars would always seem to be quick on inters, full wets or dry tyres. And now with these 2013 tyres it seems like that isn't the case anymore. When it's wet.. the Redbull and Mercedes seem stronger and when it's dry the Ferrari, Lotus and Force India seem stronger. I would have expected Sauber to be up there too, where is Sauber?

It's very strange and I hope this isn't the case. I really expected Lotus to be on the pace in quali.. I thought they have the best car but they seemed to be nowhere. Kimi had the right wet tyre strategy and was still miles off. In the dry he wasn't that quick either. In a dry race though, he could be as strong as ever.

If it's wet, I expect Lotus and Force India to struggle again. Which is silly if they have such a fast car.

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#40 Atreiu

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:31

Alonso
Vettel
Massa

#41 Les

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:34

Alonso
Kimi
Button
Vettel

Why? Well Katie said so!


#42 Seanspeed

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:40

Not gonna predict anything. A lot can happen tomorrow, especially if it rains.

Kimi's still got a very good shot at the podium from P10, I think.

Just hoping the driving standards remain as good as they were last Sunday, cuz it could get messy.

#43 CrashPad

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 15:57

Bone-dry race=Raikkonen wins.
Rain/mixed conditions=Alonso wins.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:01

Anyone has weather forecast? Autosport Live used to have a FANTASTIC detailed forecast but they don't do that anymore.

This one million times.

#45 Les

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:03

Anyone betting against a Ferrari being first into the first corner?


No. However if the race starts under the safety car then it will be Vettel first and sadly theres a good chance of this happening tomorrow with the predicted weather.

#46 ethirtyfour

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:04


Alonso has this in th bag if it stays dry.
Nereast rival in race pace is back in 10th.



#47 John Player

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:06

Alonso wins regardless of the weather.


#48 study

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:06

Alonso has this in th bag if it stays dry.
Nereast rival in race pace is back in 10th.


Hasn't the last race taught anything.

Nothing is in the bag, expect the unexpected with these tyres and weather.

#49 SpaMaster

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:07

Bone-dry race=Raikkonen wins.
Rain/mixed conditions=Alonso wins.

:smoking:

Most likely it would be one stint on inters or wets (15 min or so). What happens then? :p

#50 jjcale

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:08

Would love to see a dominating win by FM....