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[RC162]

This may be a short lived thread but in a recent posting regarding Mick Patrick dcw said that the photo could have been taken at an ' NG ' meeting and I don't remember what that club name was so here's a few I raced with with their prefix's and their names and if someone could say what 'NG' is please.

BFRC British Formula Racing Club

BRMC 'Bemsee' British Motorcycle Racing Club

NMCC Newmarket Motor Cycle Club

BRC Bantam Racing Club

Racing 50

New Era

Grantham and Pegasus and the Southern 100 if I remember correctly.

[tonyed]

This may be a short lived thread but in a recent posting regarding Mick Patrick dcw said that the photo could have been taken at an ' NG ' meeting and I don't remember what that club name was so here's a few I raced with with their prefix's and their names and if someone could say what 'NG' is please.

BFRC British Formula Racing Club

BRMC 'Bemsee' British Motorcycle Racing Club

NMCC Newmarket Motor Cycle Club

BRC Bantam Racing Club

Racing 50

New Era

Grantham and Pegasus and the Southern 100 if I remember correctly.

Hem, Hem to give it its' full name.

NMCC and LC Club - NMCC Newmarket Motor Cycle and Light Car Club

Gravesend and District

Southampton and District

East Grinstead

there were hundreds of them in the 'good old days'

[Robin127]

Southern Sixty Seven Racing Club

[dixie]

Southern Sixty Seven Racing Club

Formally the 'Berks Oxon Bucks Racing Club'

[Classicpics]

The Leicester Query Club

Nottingham Tornado

The first two clubs to use Mallory for Motor Cycle racing

[Paul Collins]

NG = North Gloucester Club, and here's a few I raced with that disappeared in the 80's mainly due to increasing insurance costs.

Batley MC&LCC
Formula 5
Louth & District MCC
Skegness MCC
Retford MCC
Shaw & District MCC
Notts & District MCC
Lincoln MCC

[khsuzukitr500]

P.T.M.C.R.C. PORT TALBOT MOTOR CYCLE RACING CLUB

PEMBREY and LLANDOW

[Steve O'Brien]

P.T.M.C.R.C. PORT TALBOT MOTOR CYCLE RACING CLUB

PEMBREY and LLANDOW

I raced with this club in the late 70's beach racing

[Steve O'Brien]

South Liverpool Motorcycle Club
Mersey Motor Cycle Club
Wirral 100

[Paul Collins]

South Liverpool Motorcycle Club
Mersey Motor Cycle Club
Wirral 100

Has the Wirral 100 club folded Steve? I did Oulton with them, and also with the Cheshire Club who I think may have gone too?

[Russell Burrows]

Southern Sixty Seven Racing Club

Often smaller grids, more chance of getting your name in the paper of a Wednesday ;)

[dcw]

This may be a short lived thread but in a recent posting regarding Mick Patrick dcw said that the photo could have been taken at an ' NG ' meeting and I don't remember what that club name was so here's a few I raced with with their prefix's and their names and if someone could say what 'NG' is please.

BFRC British Formula Racing Club

BRMC 'Bemsee' British Motorcycle Racing Club

NMCC Newmarket Motor Cycle Club

BRC Bantam Racing Club

Racing 50

New Era

Grantham and Pegasus and the Southern 100 if I remember correctly.

NG is now known as NG Road Racing (still going strong) & was formerly known as North Gloucestershire Motorcycle Club.

David

[Steve O'Brien]

Has the Wirral 100 club folded Steve? I did Oulton with them, and also with the Cheshire Club who I think may have gone too?

Wirral
still going strong run's meeting's at Ty-Croes and Oulton Pk
http://www.wirral100.co.uk/

Edited by Steve O'Brien, 26 March 2013 - 14:29.

[knickerbrook]

P.T.M.C.R.C. PORT TALBOT MOTOR CYCLE RACING CLUB
PEMBREY and LLANDOW

Nice one Keith!
Who, apart from us maybe, remembers Cardiff Eagles! They put on some good meetings at Llandow back in the day !

[Tonka]

Brands Hatch used to be owned by 3 clubs - Greenwich, Eltham and another who's name escapes me. They fell out over some long forgotten reason and sold the circuit to Grovewood (?). Greenwich - which still exists - continued to be the organising club. They even used to put on Trials events around the circuit.

[Russell Burrows]

Brands Hatch used to be owned by 3 clubs - Greenwich, Eltham and another who's name escapes me. They fell out over some long forgotten reason and sold the circuit to Grovewood (?). Greenwich - which still exists - continued to be the organising club. They even used to put on Trials events around the circuit.

I didnt know that. Was Gravesend the other ? Was it them who made up the Brands Racing Committe?

[Tonka]

A little bit more about it on this site

http://www.500race.o...ands Hatch.html

Joe Francis, who had a bike shop in Mottingham was the managing director and the other clubs made up the committee. I can't remember all the story, as told to me by Len Walby who was involved at the time. Len was a senior figure in the Eltham MCC and SE ACU back in the 70's. He'd started trials riding before WWII, when events would start on Shooters Hill and run around farms in the area that have long been built on.

[RC162]

Another one popped up today in conversation at a VMCC shakedown rally. Derby Phoenix.

[Paul Collins]

Another one popped up today in conversation at a VMCC shakedown rally. Derby Phoenix.

Great club and still on the go, or at least I think they are? certainly my mate was riding with them up to a few years back.

I used to ride with them in the 70's and early 80's and I can still remember the main guy's name at that time, a fella called Geoff Shearing who was one of the nicest most helpful chaps you could wish to meet.

Occasionally Geoff Barry (who was another true gent) would turn up at a Derby Phoenix meeting as it was his local club, he would come along if he needed to do a bit of testing but would always pull out on the last lap of his races so as not to pinch any placings from the clubmen.

[Steve O'Brien]

I think Preston & Dist still race at 3 Sisters in Wigan.

[exclubracer]

I think Preston & Dist still race at 3 Sisters in Wigan.

They do indeed.

[k4racer]

gravesend eagles. also the bantam club

[Perruqueporte]

This may be a short lived thread but in a recent posting regarding Mick Patrick dcw said that the photo could have been taken at an ' NG ' meeting and I don't remember what that club name was so here's a few I raced with with their prefix's and their names and if someone could say what 'NG' is please.

BFRC British Formula Racing Club

BRMC 'Bemsee' British Motorcycle Racing Club

NMCC Newmarket Motor Cycle Club

BRC Bantam Racing Club

Racing 50

New Era

Grantham and Pegasus and the Southern 100 if I remember correctly.

NG - the North Gloucester Motorcycle Club which, when I was racing, ran meetings at various airfield circuits like Colerne and Keevil and Anglesey and ran them very well. Nice people, well-attended and very competitive meetings. I remember that at Colerne in particular, the straight was the longest and fastest that I had experienced, with the prevailing wind behind you and a near-standstill hairpin at the end which was alarming if you misjudged the braking distance!

Another name to add to the list - KRC (Kent Racing Combine) which ran much of the road racing at Brands Hatch from its beginnings some 60 years ago (originally as the Brands Racing Committee) and which was founded by the Greenwich club. All of that came to an end when Brands was acquired by Jonathan Palmer's enterprise.

Christopher Wigdor
President, Greenwich Motor and Motorcycle Club

[dommieracer]

Brands Hatch used to be owned by 3 clubs - Greenwich, Eltham and another who's name escapes me. They fell out over some long forgotten reason and sold the circuit to Grovewood (?). Greenwich - which still exists - continued to be the organising club. They even used to put on Trials events around the circuit.

OWLS, my dad belonged to that club. Brands was the home track.

[dommieracer]

Wirral 100 running well.
I was with Jamie Harris Racing at Trac Mon ( Anglsesy ) the other week doing a film with my son for his college work. Got lots of bike racing and on bike footage done in minus 4 windy/snowing conditions.

[tdijam]

Eboracum Motor Cycle Club, no longer run road race meetings , but still strong in the Trials scene.

John.

[Paul Collins]

Eboracum Motor Cycle Club, no longer run road race meetings , but still strong in the Trials scene.

John.

I was trying to remember the name of that club John, did they run some Elvington meetings? I never rode with them but can remember them being around.

[quack]

I was trying to remember the name of that club John, did they run some Elvington meetings? I never rode with them but can remember them being around.

sunbac sutton coldfield and north birmingham automobile club used to hold a motorcycle race at a car meeting at silverstone

Edited by quack, 18 April 2013 - 21:46.

[tdijam]

I was trying to remember the name of that club John, did they run some Elvington meetings? I never rode with them but can remember them being around.

Hi Paul,

Yes Eboracum used to run road races at Elviington , Bill Clarke used to run the road racing side of the club . They used a different circuit to the one used by Auto 66.

[exclubracer]

Hi Paul,

Yes Eboracum used to run road races at Elviington , Bill Clarke used to run the road racing side of the club . They used a different circuit to the one used by Auto 66.

Not difficult to use a different course at Elvington, John, only marked out using cones! I went there once with Auto 66 and couldn't get my head around it.

[tdijam]

Not difficult to use a different course at Elvington, John, only marked out using cones! I went there once with Auto 66 and couldn't get my head around it.

Another airfield circuit used by Auto 66 Club but no longer in use was Carnaby Raceway near Bridlington. Although it was only a disused airfield the Final round of the British Chapionship were held there in the 80s, and featured on ITV World of Sport, not sure how Peter Hillaby pulled that one off!
Although they were only airfield circuits, mostly marked out by cones it gave a lot of people local to this area the chance to start road racing.

John

Edited by tdijam, 21 April 2013 - 13:52.

[Paul Collins]

Another airfield circuit used by Auto 66 Club but no longer in use was Carnaby Raceway near Bridlington. Although it was only a disused airfield the Final round of the British Chapionship were held there in the 80s, and featured on ITV World of Sport, not sure how Peter Hillaby pulled that one off!
Although they were only airfield circuits, mostly marked out by cones it gave a lot of people local to this area the chance to start road racing.

John

I still have the scars from my Carnaby appearances John, I quite enjoyed the place, but had 2 fairly large get offs there, I went for walk around the remains of the circuit a couple of years ago as I was passing by.

I still see a bit of Elvington nowadays but from about 5000ft and upside down as I sometimes practice aerobatics over it when flying out of the nearby Full Sutton.

[fil2.8]

Another airfield circuit used by Auto 66 Club but no longer in use was Carnaby Raceway near Bridlington. Although it was only a disused airfield the Final round of the British Chapionship were held there in the 80s, and featured on ITV World of Sport, not sure how Peter Hillaby pulled that one off!
Although they were only airfield circuits, mostly marked out by cones it gave a lot of people local to this area the chance to start road racing.

John

Absolutely disgusting to run the final round of an important championship at that dump , only suitable for clubbie;s and proddie bikes IMHO , a tin-pot place with grass growing in between the concrete slabs , we were in a strong position to win the outright championship , having led most of the year in 1980 , until going there , an unsuitable venue if ever there was one , a s..t hole if ever there was one , Keevil and Colerne look like Brands and Silverstone by comparison

[exclubracer]

Absolutely disgusting to run the final round of an important championship at that dump , only suitable for clubbie;s and proddie bikes IMHO , a tin-pot place with grass growing in between the concrete slabs , we were in a strong position to win the outright championship , having led most of the year in 1980 , until going there , an unsuitable venue if ever there was one , a s..t hole if ever there was one , Keevil and Colerne look like Brands and Silverstone by comparison

With you there Phil, the place was a s**thole, not even fit for a club meeting. The track surface had to be seen to be believed, some of the joints in the concrete was like riding up a kerb.

Quite a few riders ended up in the adjacent corn field too!

[Paul Collins]

With you there Phil, the place was a s**thole, not even fit for a club meeting. The track surface had to be seen to be believed, some of the joints in the concrete was like riding up a kerb.

Quite a few riders ended up in the adjacent corn field too!

Yep I had a very long journey into the cornfield!! I left my braking far too late at the end of the start finsh straight and entered the field which was fully grown at the time, at around 80mph, it was actually quite smooth once the bike landed after taking off over the verge, I had to stand up to see where I was going and couldnt even think about braking, I was waiting for the inevitable ditch or tree stump to spoil things but the bike just kept rolling to a standstill about 400 yards or more into the field, it was a long push out though!!

[exclubracer]

Yep I had a very long journey into the cornfield!! I left my braking far too late at the end of the start finsh straight and entered the field which was fully grown at the time, at around 80mph, it was actually quite smooth once the bike landed after taking off over the verge, I had to stand up to see where I was going and couldnt even think about braking, I was waiting for the inevitable ditch or tree stump to spoil things but the bike just kept rolling to a standstill about 400 yards or more into the field, it was a long push out though!!

There was also the issue that if a rider went 'agricultural' and was injured then the marshals would have to go searching for him in the field. Not good if someone was in need of urgent attention!

[tdijam]

There was also the issue that if a rider went 'agricultural' and was injured then the marshals would have to go searching for him in the field. Not good if someone was in need of urgent attention!

Come on guys , beggars can't be choosers , i agree it was never a good enough venue to hold a final of a British Championship, but as I said in a earlier post it gave a lot of people in the area the chance to have a go at racing . If its wasn't for Auto 66 running meeting at Elvington and Carnaby I would never have started racing. Now I think about it, they have a lot to answer for, just think how much better off I would have been if I hadn't started racing!

John

[RC162]

There was also the issue that if a rider went 'agricultural' and was injured then the marshals would have to go searching for him in the field. Not good if someone was in need of urgent attention!

Quite a few riders went into the original field as you exit Riches at Snetterton. Corn or wheat was fine but woe betide you if it had banked up spuds or carrots in it !

[Robin127]

Quite a few riders went into the original field as you exit Riches at Snetterton. Corn or wheat was fine but woe betide you if it had banked up spuds or carrots in it !

In my first season in the mid 70's I entered Riches and saw tyre tracks on the grass leading into that field, there was no sign of a rider and as I rounded the corner I caught sight of a head pop up above the wheat looking round pretty bemused. The bloke had obviously completely lost his bearings and couldn't work out where the track was, I think that's the only time I actually started to laugh during a race, still brings a smile to my face today.

[RC162]

In my first season in the mid 70's I entered Riches and saw tyre tracks on the grass leading into that field, there was no sign of a rider and as I rounded the corner I caught sight of a head pop up above the wheat looking round pretty bemused. The bloke had obviously completely lost his bearings and couldn't work out where the track was, I think that's the only time I actually started to laugh during a race, still brings a smile to my face today.

Local rider Greg Page went into that field at one time and ended up with a carrot wedged between his face and the inside of his helmet. Good job it didn't go up his nose or into his one good eye.