32 replies to this topic

[RubalSher]

New to this forum and contributing race data in graph format. Provides a deeper insight on how the race unfolded.

[Wander]

Very nice, I enjoy a good graph, especially the team mate comparisons.

Thanks for posting.

[DrProzac]

Nice post, though I was expecting some kind of Vettel vs Webber comic or manga

Actually, I'm glad to see lap charts.

Edited by DrProzac, 25 March 2013 - 16:58.

[benzine]

who cares about who is fast when u got the redbull mercedes ultra teammates team order controversy

[senna da silva]

Thanks. Great stuff!

[Boing 2]

great post, hope you're going to continue for the rest of the season. Most of the teams seem to have quite evenly matched drivers except sauber and torro rosso.

[KnucklesAgain]

[tabovilla]

Great post. Several conclusions can be drawn from these, such as:

• Mercs had a good pace until last stints, cruising at the end. LH lead it longer, but rosberg is faster than most people give him credit for
• Webber leaded the race the most, deserved victory.
• Grosjean's race pace this weekend was better overall compared to KR's

Edited by tabovilla, 25 March 2013 - 19:49.

[DrProzac]

Gro vs Kimi - they were blocked quite a lot, especially Raikkonen, so this chart may not be the best indicator of their relative pace.

[RSNS]

Thank you, very good.

[Dolph]

Gro vs Kimi - they were blocked quite a lot, especially Raikkonen, so this chart may not be the best indicator of their relative pace.

Yep, remember also that Kimi went off twice and that could have damaged the car and reduced pace. On the other hand Kimi had the newer parts on the car.

[jstrains]

All were falling off like apples from a tree...

[choyothe]

Would be nice to get a bit more accurate (in terms of size) graphs for RB and Merc, but great work.

Webber leaded the race the most, deserved victory.

That makes absolutely no sense.

[Myrvold]

Meh, didn't really like the last chart, but well, I guess there aren't many Marussia fans like me around! ;P

[RubalSher]

great post, hope you're going to continue for the rest of the season. Most of the teams seem to have quite evenly matched drivers except sauber and torro rosso.

Thanks everyone for your support and yes I will post these graphs after each race. Suggestions are welcome too.

[RubalSher]

Meh, didn't really like the last chart, but well, I guess there aren't many Marussia fans like me around! ;P

Bianchi has done exceedingly well in the last 2 races. If he continues at this rate, I am pretty sure his progress to a better team would come sooner than later.

[Lee Nicolle]

Yep, remember also that Kimi went off twice and that could have damaged the car and reduced pace. On the other hand Kimi had the newer parts on the car.

Kimi is a rally driver so is used to a bit of off road action!

[Race2win]

Great post mate. keep it up

[Lelouch]

Thank you very much for your work and please keep it up! Cheers!

[Mauseri]

Could you change the graphs to use winners average lap time as the reference? Because I hate it when all the cars jump up and down when the leader pits. Also, the evolution of lap times during the race cannot be seen from your graphs.

Thank you.

[Thrasymakus]

Thanks to the OP. Just the sort of info we need.

[RubalSher]

Could you change the graphs to use winners average lap time as the reference? Because I hate it when all the cars jump up and down when the leader pits. Also, the evolution of lap times during the race cannot be seen from your graphs.

Thank you.

If I do the winner's avg lap time as reference, then I would either have to plot everyone else's avg lap time too (which would be meaningless since we know the race result) or I will plot actual lap times against this avg lap time and I would have a sea of points above and below this.

Not sure if I am visualizing it clearly but would appreciate if you could expand on your comments. I can surely plot any graph since all the data is already present.

[jk]

Not sure if I am visualizing it clearly but would appreciate if you could expand on your comments. I can surely plot any graph since all the data is already present.

Instead of using the gap to the leader as reference, use the difference to the leaders average laptime multiplied by the lapnumber. If the average winning laptime is 1:30 then after 10 laps the reference is at 15 minutes. If the leader has completed the first 10 laps in 14:50 he would be 10 seconds up on the reference. If he is going slow he will drop away, if he is fast he will gain. And of course they would be a drop when he pits. In the end the reference and the winning driver should converge.

That way it would be possible to visualise the pace of the race. Also pitstops would make more sense, since the gap is plotted to a constant pace rather than a leader whose position changes when he pits.

[ultrapro]

My suggestion to try to make the main chart easier to follow would be to see how it looks if you vary the colour of the dots for different drivers. So you could use the line colour to denote the team as you have, then use the driver's colour (maybe helmet colour) for their dots to help differentiate between them.

[mclarensmps]

Excellent post, RubalSher, thank you for sharing the info!

[thegforcemaybewithyou]

There is already a website that provides exactly what is shown in this thread!

http://en.mclarenf-1.com/

Select the race you want to analyse, then choose "history graph" and select the drivers, laps and the "compare to" selection.
The "head to head" analysis is also very interesting!

[BillBald]

There is already a website that provides exactly what is shown in this thread!

http://en.mclarenf-1.com/

Select the race you want to analyse, then choose "history graph" and select the drivers, laps and the "compare to" selection.
The "head to head" analysis is also very interesting!

I find the graphs in this thread a little more readable, although the main graph could be improved.

On the McLaren fansite you mentioned, the black background makes some of the traces hard to see, but otherwise it's good.

[anti]

I find the graphs in this thread a little more readable, although the main graph could be improved.

On the McLaren fansite you mentioned, the black background makes some of the traces hard to see, but otherwise it's good.

Graph history race Malaysia GP 2013 (link)

• Sebastian Vettel
• Mark Webber
• Nico Rosberg
• Lewis Hamilton

compared to driver #1 Sebastian Vettel

[turssi]

Mercedes pilots on extremely similar pace :-)

[BillBald]

Graph history race Malaysia GP 2013 (link)

• Sebastian Vettel
• Mark Webber
• Nico Rosberg
• Lewis Hamilton

compared to driver #1 Sebastian Vettel

That illustrates my point, the trace for Nico Rosberg is barely visible on my monitor. I don't understand why some websites use a black background.

I hope the OP continues with these much more readable graphs.

[Kingshark]

Mercedes pilots on extremely similar pace :-)

That's because Nico was stuck behind Lewis for god knows how long. His pace was much better though.

[AlexS]

Nice job Ferrari-Massa. seems the only one that didn't dropped much after lap 9.

Edited by AlexS, 30 March 2013 - 00:17.

[qczhao]

Good effort, but are you sure the Mclaren graph is right? Button's gap to leader doesn't seem to be correct.