http://www.f1fanatic...er-pass-vettel/
Mark Webber himself said he ignored team orders...
only difference is Vettel made his move stick in the end....
another thing you gotta think about Webber is... and was above 30 years old... he had lots more life experience than Seb had.... and still he ignored team orders,
while at the same time Vettel is 25...
SIN, you managed to start cooking the well made soup.
Let me ask you if you made the correct statement here above, because according to me
your statement is pointing at the incorrect journalistic judgement.
Webber ignored Red Bull’s order not to pass Vettel
2011 British Grand Prix
July 10, 2011 at 3:20 pm by Keith Collantine 346 comments
Mark Webber, Red Bull, Silverstone, 2011
Mark Webber said he ignored Red Bull’s order not to try to pass Sebastian Vettel at the end of the British Grand Prix.
Webber was closing on Vettel in the final laps of the race and was one second behind his team mate with two laps to go.
Webber was told on the team radio “Mark, we need to maintain the gap”.
After the race Horner said: “It’s a team result. Circumstances earlier in the race… Sebastian had a KERS issue that we were dealing with and the last thing you want to do is see the team give away a whole load of points.
“From a team point of view we decided that it was best to hold the positions in the final two laps.
“Obviously Mark disagreed with that. The thing is, I can understand he’s maybe a little bit frustrated, but from a team point of view we can’t afford to give away a whole load of points.
Asked if this meant Webber could no longer fight for the championship Horner said: “No, not at all.
“But you get to that stage in the race we’d managed situation earlier in the race to get Mark ahead, give him the undercut effectively, and with the final two laps it was entirely the sensible thing to do.
“The last thing you want to see is both of your drivers in the fence which is how that probably would have ended up.
“The message was quite clear to him, what the team expected of him – not what I expected, what the team collectively expected.”
Horner said Webber: “should be fine” with the team orders, adding: “It was crystal clear this morning when we went into the race that it was all about getting the most points we can out of this event.
“Obviously we’ve had a rear jack issue with Sebastian that cost him the track position to Fernando. That’s racing sometimes, these things can happen. Ferrari was quick today, second and third is still a very strong team result.”
But speaking in the post-race press conference Webber said he was not happy with the instructions.
He revealed the team had first instructed him to hold position “four or five laps” before the end.
He said: “I ignored the team and I was battling to the end.”
IN the article you referred and used to counter the argument of gowebber, there is no words nor quote from Webber himself. What I read is a journalistic statemt that Webber DID ignore the team order, but it completely fails to show the public it's proof.
I must agree with gowebber that I am sick of this kind of statement. You might love to promote hatrid and agony in order for yourself to feel more excited, but this one is too cheap. Better come up with more convincing argument.
Edited by One, 26 March 2013 - 08:52.