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#101 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 14:02

Was right to back Rai not Gro for podium but Lewis pleasantly suprised me. Webber spoiled my Vettel fastest lap £21 return. I jinxed Vettel for pole, FL and win! :lol:

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#102 joshb

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Posted 28 July 2013 - 18:14

£5 on Grosjean NO
£5 on Pic, Hamilton, Bianchi, Hulk to beat their teammates but Pic lost
£5 on Kimi podium at Evens WON (returns £10)
£5 on Hamilton pole at 9/4 won (Returns £16.25)
£5 on Alonso podium at 1/1 Lost

So Spent 25, returned £26.25, so a small profit

#103 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 15:13

Anyone got decent money on Ham or Rai for title? Can still get Kimi at 21 (I just did, but not decent money!). If he wins at Spa (very possible, specially with new DRS coming on tap) and Vettel has a mare (possible with their gash top speed) then those odds will slash massively. Prob down to 10 like on Ham now. Could cash out nicely after such an event if put big money down.

#104 SamH123

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 15:38

Now is a great time to bet against Vettel with Spa & Monza coming up (maybe with the view to back Vettel after Monza)

Last year Vettel hit 10/1+ for the championship after Monza!

I've got some decent money on Hamilton at around the 15/1-20/1 mark (mostly after Silverstone) so I am excited about that. I don't fancy Raikonnen personally, Spa might be good but I don't expect Lotus to be anywhere near consistently strong enough for Kimi. No Lotus beating a Merc around scorching Budapest seems a little ominous in my opinion

#105 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 21:59

Ham owns Hung and Kimi qualed really bad. Kimi owns Spa.

#106 joshb

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:09

Now is a great time to bet against Vettel with Spa & Monza coming up (maybe with the view to back Vettel after Monza)

Last year Vettel hit 10/1+ for the championship after Monza!

I've got some decent money on Hamilton at around the 15/1-20/1 mark (mostly after Silverstone) so I am excited about that. I don't fancy Raikonnen personally, Spa might be good but I don't expect Lotus to be anywhere near consistently strong enough for Kimi. No Lotus beating a Merc around scorching Budapest seems a little ominous in my opinion


I know I got 15/2 before Singapore. Also remember getting 7/1 on a Vettel win at Singapore too!
Had £7.50 on HAM before Nurburgring at 16s I think, 2.50 on Rosberg at 33s but that's dead now


#107 Slackbladder

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:53

I just stuck some money on laying Alonso for top 3 in the championship at effectively 2/1. Vettel is a shoe in, as is probably Lewis, with the recent performances. The question is wether Kimi can keep up his speed, and I think he can. Theres plenty of people which can take points off Alonso, being those three, Webber, Grosjean, Rosberg, so if the Ferrari slips back....

I'm happy with that.

#108 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:26

Why would you bet against Vettel? That would be throwing away money. Don't forget, in the last few races we have all the Red Bull/Vettel tracks like Singapore, India, Korea, Suzuka.

#109 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 14:55

Why would you bet against Vettel? That would be throwing away money. Don't forget, in the last few races we have all the Red Bull/Vettel tracks like Singapore, India, Korea, Suzuka.


Not necessarily, you can win money by merely placing multiple bets. When the odds change you can make money if you placed bets when all the contenders odds were long. This is called 'greening your book'. If Vettel has a DNF or bad couple races and his points lead decreases his odds will lengthen. I'll then put money on him and green my book. All speculation of course.

#110 SamH123

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 17:04

I have laid some Alonso to be at Red Bull on Betfair for 3.8 and there has been quite a lot matched at 3.5 and below

Surely this is too short? I guess some people have concluded that Kimi going to Ferrari makes Alonso more likely to go to Red Bull but I'm not sure

I got a little 7s on Raikonnen to Red Bull recently as well, I think people overreacted to the rumours a little


#111 joshb

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 21:13

I requested Hulkeneberg to Red Bull. They gave me 40/1 so stuck £5 on it... never in the hunt sadly, shame as I rate him

#112 William Hunt

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 23:14

Betting on sports is never a good idea; in the end you'll always end up losing more as gaining and the betting agency will Always come out as the winner. I personally think it should be forbidden as some people will Always get addicted to betting, it's like a drug for them , and that can potentially lead to debts and devastating drama's.

#113 froggy22

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 13:20

Some really good odds on either Williams driver to win the race in Melbourne. So tempted to put a fiver on Massa.



#114 slmk

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 13:36

Where do you guys bet? 

 

(i.e. which bookie offers the best odds / best bet selection). 

 

I am with Bet365 and cannot bet for pole for instance.


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#115 froggy22

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 13:44

Im using William Hill and they usually open up the bettings for pole/fastest lap/podium finishers..... etc in the build up to the race, usually the week of the race.  William Hill has only got bets for the win open ATM.



#116 olliek88

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 19:00

Betfair here.

 

Williams do attractive, BOTTAS floats my boat more. However, the unpredictability of F1 right now has meant betting on anything other than a win is pretty pointless as the odds are fairly short and the possibilities of, say, BOTTAS getting a podium or even points are far from guaranteed with reliability being such an issue.

 

Might hold off until after FP1/2 before putting my money were my mouth is, the risk and reward just isn't there for me right now. Although on second glance something that does appeal to me is Vettel for pole, odds are obviously long right now but i'm convinced that RB is just as quick as ever and if they can put a decent Friday together i could easily see him upsetting the current predictions, for Saturday anyway!



#117 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 22:31

Considering Williams have been almost flawless in testing compared to most teams and the car has been uber quick in both drivers hands id say a williams podium is a good bet whatever the odds. Best chance they've had for years.

#118 chdphd

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 21:37

I got a fiver each at William Hill on

 

Sergio Perez @ 33/1

Kimi Raikkonen @ 14/1

Valtteri Bottas @ 20/1

Nico Hulkenberg @ 28/1

 

It looks like each way on William Hill is the podium. It was just 1st or 2nd last year.



#119 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 14:36

So you get 14/1 on Kimi winning but what's the return on him getting a podium? He's currently only 3.25 for a podium finish on Betfair.



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#120 mclarennut

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 16:51

Lewis @ 5/1 £125 WDC

Button @ 25/1  £100 WDC

Mag @ 40/1 £50 WDC

 

All before testing started....

 

Going to have Button at 10/1 to win the first race as he loves the track. 



#121 chdphd

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 19:27

So you get 14/1 on Kimi winning but what's the return on him getting a podium? He's currently only 3.25 for a podium finish on Betfair.

You get 1/5 of the return apparently.



#122 joshb

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 20:32

When was the last time Seb was 18/1 to win and 16/1 for pole??? (Paddypower)

 

Safety Car/Merc pole double is tempting. Maybe add Marussia 0 finishers to that list

I've already gone Seb DNF at 6/4 as my consolation bet



#123 joshb

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 20:33

 

Lewis @ 5/1 £125 WDC

Button @ 25/1  £100 WDC

Mag @ 40/1 £50 WDC

 

All before testing started....

 

Going to have Button at 10/1 to win the first race as he loves the track. 

 

 

Button to win in Oz is a very tempting bet



#124 Bloggsworth

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 23:37

How about a tenner on Chilton to finish in the first 3 @ 200/1... Though my money is on the safety car.



#125 tkulla

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 23:56

Anyone in the US find a way to bet on F1? I would have like to put down a couple of tenners but sadly a US address is not accepted for the Brit betting sites as far as I can tell.

#126 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 14:17

Button to win in Oz is a very tempting bet

 

Just got a text through from William Hill offering a free £25 bet when you place a £25 bet. Quickly checked the Melbourne weather forecast and it looks like weather is at the very least going to be changeable come Sat/Sun. That could be a perfect storm for Jenson at 22/1!

 

£25 on Merc to win at evens and the free £25 on Jenson brings in £550(!).

 

Tempting!



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 10:51

Bit confused as to why Ericsson's odds are better than Kobayashi's on William Hill. Ericsson is 500/1 while Koba is 1000/1 to win.

 

But realistically, I'm really tempted to put a fiver on JB, Massa or Kimi.



#128 DS27

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 17:20

I have gone for a tenner each way for the first GP on Hulkenburg, Perez, Massa, Bottas and Rosberg - if none of them come in i'll be darn.

 

I'm surprised how good the odds still are for Rosberg, so a sizeable each way bet for the championship will be the way to go I think.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 22:23

My friend told me today that he's put two bets on.

 

£100 for Bottas WDC and £25 for Dual RBR DNFs at the 1st race.

 

my opinion?   ..its pretty stupid and he might as well set fire to his money, at least it'll look pretty and keep him warm for 10 secs :p



#130 crooky369

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 23:52

Only bets that tempted me so far were Button when he was 20/1 (only 14/1 now) for a win because he's pretty handy around Melbourne and surely being in a top team with a Merc engine is going to mean something in this race at least. And Alonso 8/1 for the championship because the guy is just a machine when it comes to amassing points and if Ferrari get it right with the Merc teams taking points off each other plus a weak Red Bull then he's got to be worth a shout.



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Posted 14 March 2014 - 13:19

Just checked  Bwin.com

 

Ricciardo WDC  67/1 

 

Tempting :)



#132 DS27

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 13:28

Absolutely worth an each way bet, especially as Red Bull are looking surprisingly close. Just placed one myself.



#133 stewie

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 15:06

Just had a £20 flutter on William Hill...

 

Riccardio on 50/1 to win WDC, 50/1, £2.50 each way

No drivers to complete the race, 33/1, £1

Vettel to win the race, 11/1, £2

Bianchi to finish in the top 10, 6/1, £5

Button to finish on the podium, 11/4, £5

 

Accumulator on all the above bar no drivers to finish, £3 would net me £1160!



#134 doc83

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 15:12

Just had a £20 flutter on William Hill...

 

Riccardio on 50/1 to win WDC, 50/1, £2.50 each way

No drivers to complete the race, 33/1, £1

Vettel to win the race, 11/1, £2

Bianchi to finish in the top 10, 6/1, £5

Button to finish on the podium, 11/4, £5

 

Accumulator on all the above bar no drivers to finish, £3 would net me £1160!

 

 

I see absolutely no chance for the bolded one to happen. Besides Renault reliability is way better than expected. Just look at FP1 and FP2.



#135 stewie

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Posted 14 March 2014 - 15:17

To be honest, neither do I. However, if it did, I'll be £34 richer so I won't moan too much! Kinda worth it for a £1 stake.



#136 stewie

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 21:54

So, with the RB10 of Riccardio being classed as DSQ, and Button now being P3, will William Hill cough up on my bet of Jenson being on the podium?



#137 joshb

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 22:24

So, with the RB10 of Riccardio being classed as DSQ, and Button now being P3, will William Hill cough up on my bet of Jenson being on the podium?

No they won't as they'll have already paid out on Ricciardo 2nd place.

It's annoying, as I had JB each way...

 

But my Hamilton pole bet and Seb DNF bet came in 



#138 Tenmantaylor

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 23:27

Got my Merc win and £50 return - wasted the £25 free bet on arsenal winning with a Giroud goal.



#139 danmills

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:41

I played for comical pennies on paddypower.

 

£1 Rosberg to win 5.5 (WIN) £5.50

10p Magnusson on podium 40.0 (WIN) £4

 

And had Bottas not gone all pear, I also had an 88-1 on Bottas / Magnusson podium which I am sure would have happened.

 

Lost a double merc podium at 5-1.



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#140 wattoroos

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:33

I had Rosberg and Hamilton for the win so I came out on top, Wonder what Ricciardo would have been paying for a podium after winter testing?

 

If the merc stays this good for a while, then it might be similar to the end of last year where there is no value in betting on the races



#141 stewie

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 07:19

No they won't as they'll have already paid out on Ricciardo 2nd place.

It's annoying, as I had JB each way...

 

Shame. Winnings were only £15 so I'm not going to loose mega sleep over it.



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Posted 16 May 2014 - 21:47

I'm taking Vettel and Ricciardo for fastest laps @ 6 and 8 on Betfair.

 

Really happy with these for a variety of reasons:

 

- Vettel secured the fastest lap in Spain
- Mercedes have almost certainly been turning down the power in the last part of the race. This has happened everywhere and I suspect it is part of an agreement internally. They're are many reasons to think this including the fuel usage graphics, which showed Rosberg was below target on the laps he was closing down Hamilton. Mercedes have such an advantage that they can afford to cruise nearer the end and have done. The gaps have often stayed static around 20-25 seconds when they had over 2 seconds a lap when they needed to.
- Monaco should really suit the Red Bull (as reported by Vettel who suggested they could challenge Mercedes for the win there) - it's a traction and mechanical grip track and the Red Bull looks the class of the field in that respect. Mercedes will be stronger on the straights but these are minimal and Renault are bringing further upgrades. A mixture of things mean Red Bull should only be 2-4 tenths behind a lap.
- Mercedes want to win the constructors championship and racing hard around Monaco is risky. They'll likely call the battle off between their two drivers and get them to take it cautiously once they have the 43 points secured.
- Vettel really loves records and has recorded a lot of fastest laps in his career - he's very famous for it.

 

I'm hoping for some more great value over the coming week.


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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:33

Depending on the weather Perez @ 2.3 on Bwin to beat Hulk in the race looks great value.

 

Perez beat Hulk in Spain and went better than JB last year in Monaco. Hulk has never stood out there and I rate their chances more like 50/50. My only concern is that Nico has looked stronger in the rain so will wait to see the weather forecast for the weekend before considering any bets.

 

It's also interesting that Bwin have put Massa at favourite for the Williams duel. You can get Bottas at 2.02 for the race - I'm considering this too.