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#1 Rob Ryder

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 19:06

Hi
I am still browsing the Vienna Museum websits and enjoying it immensly.
It has raised a few ID questions from 1970s hillclimbs though.
Any ideas on what/who for the following would be appreciated.

1. 1974 : no idea !
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2294
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2294

2. 1975 : This looks like a Surtees TS14 ?
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2561
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2561

3. 1976 : Lotus 76, look-alike with Porsche engine ?
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2562
http://www.technisch...icleid/2562</a>"> http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport.../articleid/2562

Thanks for any help
Rob


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#2 f1steveuk

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 19:16

The second one does look like a TS14, although as John has then all now, I wonder if it was loaned or if he brought it back from someone?



#3 David McKinney

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 20:51

Kurt Rieder crashed a TS14 in an Austrian hillclimb in 1975

#4 Stephen W

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 08:51

The one from 1974 looks like an old F5000 fitted with the deformable side pods etc that the regs by then required.


#5 Mallory Dan

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 13:52

Would either of the 2 mystery ones be a Kaimann or Bergmann or suchlike, Maco even?? I agree with David on the Rieder TS14

#6 Allen Brown

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 13:59

Hi
I am still browsing the Vienna Museum websits and enjoying it immensly.
It has raised a few ID questions from 1970s hillclimbs though.
Any ideas on what/who for the following would be appreciated.


3. 1976 : Lotus 76, look-alike with Porsche engine ?
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2562
[url="http://%20&lt;a%20href="http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport-in-oesterreich/objekt/article_entity_id/59_1976/order/0/mediaid/297108?returnurl=http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport-in-oesterreich/veranstaltung/articleid/2562"%20target="_blank"&gt;http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport.../articleid/2562&lt;/a&gt;"] <a href="http://www.technisch...articleid/2562" target="_blank">http://www.technischesmuseum.at/motorsport.../articleid/2562[/url]</a>

Thanks for any help
Rob

This looks familiar but I'm struggling to recall where I've seen it. I think it may be Alfred "Freddy" Amweg's home-built Amweg AW 76/2 Formula 2 car.

#7 Allen Brown

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 15:13

Hi
I am still browsing the Vienna Museum websits and enjoying it immensly.
It has raised a few ID questions from 1970s hillclimbs though.
Any ideas on what/who for the following would be appreciated.

1. 1974 : no idea !
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2294
http://www.technisch.../articleid/2294


This one's bugging me too! Nicely presented car but I suspect it didn't start life looking anything like that. F5000 engine in the back? Name on the cockpit seems to be K. B...inger or K. R...inger but that's not helping me at the moment.

I'll be back!

#8 Gerr

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 15:42

This one's bugging me too! Nicely presented car but I suspect it didn't start life looking anything like that. F5000 engine in the back? Name on the cockpit seems to be K. B...inger or K. R...inger but that's not helping me at the moment.

I'll be back!


Looks something like/similar to a McNamara Indy car of 1970.


#9 ReWind

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 16:08

Karl Böhringer's McNamara.
See here.

#10 Rob Ryder

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 17:27

Many thanks guys, I knew I could rely on TNF.

It seems that the only one to be confirmed is #3, the Lotus 76 look-alike.

Rob

Edited by Rob Ryder, 27 March 2013 - 17:27.


#11 Allen Brown

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 19:02

This is fascinating. I thought I knew a bit about what went on in European hillclimbs but I've never heard of this car. Well found Reinhard!

Any German speakers willing to get in touch with Herr Böhringer and find out exactly what it was? His contact details are here:
http://www.hrt.at/cu...boehringerk.htm

Or are you already planning to do that Reinhard?

#12 Allen Brown

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 19:21

The car bottom left of this page is very similar in a number of respects:
http://www.mcnamara-...a/Kurioses.html

I have sent the site owner, Dirk Rudolf, a link to this page.

#13 ReWind

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 21:39

Any German speakers willing to get in touch with Herr Böhringer and find out exactly what it was?

Or are you already planning to do that Reinhard?

I didn't plan it but I shall do it. :)


#14 ReWind

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 22:14

E-mail address isn't valid anymore. :well:

#15 ReWind

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 21:04

Finally I succeeded in contacting Mr. Böhringer.

This is what he told me about his car:
He bought the McNamara from Niki Lauda. First engine was a 1100 cm³ Nova.
Then a 1600 cm³ Ford was installed which enabled Karl Böhringer to set a new track record at the Ecce Homo hillclimb which stood for some years.

On the photos from 1974 the car had a 3500 cm³ Rover V8.