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[smitten]

Was it meant to be earth moving?

Anything entitled "The Fastest Woman in the World" could be construed to have pretensions to be.

[tifosi]

"April 15 (Reuters) - Women may have the strength and stamina but they do not have the 'mental aptitude' to compete in Formula One, according to retired British grand prix great Stirling Moss.

The 83-year-old, widely acclaimed as the greatest driver never to win the Formula One championship, made the controversial comments in an interview with BBC radio for a programme on women racers to be broadcast on Monday.

"I think they have the strength, but I don't know if they've got the mental aptitude to race hard, wheel-to-wheel," said Moss, whose late sister Pat was a successful rally driver in the 1950s and 60s."



Not sure if he's watched F1 in a very long time.

[learningtobelost]

Of course women have a place in F1... it's just a question of statistics.

If say 1 in 100 kids in karts are girls and of those 100, only 10% of those are good enough to move up to the next level, and 10% of them are good enough to make it to the next level etc. Then the fact that there have been a handful of women in F1 cars is probably correct statistically speaking. If you want more women in F1, start marketing karting in a more gender netral way.

[yoyogetfunky]

"April 15 (Reuters) - Women may have the strength and stamina but they do not have the 'mental aptitude' to compete in Formula One, according to retired British grand prix great Stirling Moss.

The 83-year-old, widely acclaimed as the greatest driver never to win the Formula One championship, made the controversial comments in an interview with BBC radio for a programme on women racers to be broadcast on Monday.

"I think they have the strength, but I don't know if they've got the mental aptitude to race hard, wheel-to-wheel," said Moss, whose late sister Pat was a successful rally driver in the 1950s and 60s."



Not sure if he's watched F1 in a very long time.

Some say he is a gentleman from the old days. I dont see it.

[ForeverF1]

Anything entitled "The Fastest Woman in the World" could be construed to have pretensions to be.

If you construed it to mean that, OK. *shrugs*

[ForeverF1]

Some say he is a gentleman from the old days. I dont see it.

Spoiler

Whilst you are still wet behind the ears, you will never see it.

[yoyogetfunky]

Spoiler

Whilst you are still wet behind the ears, you will never see it.

[pingu666]

danica did ok in indycar and nascar, both had close racing, heck the 1.5milers in irl where constant heart in mouth stuff

[olliek88]

Susie Wolf shouldn't be anywhere near F1, frankly. She herself has said she wants to (rightfully) be treated equally. If she was judged truly equally she wouldn't of made DTM, let alone getting near an F1 team.

The documentary felt like a sycophantic love in, understandably it was biased, her brother made it. There was some interesting early career footage in the first 20 or so minutes but even that was exploited to make her seem better than she was, four podiums in 3 years of FR2.0 was made to look like she was fighting it out with Hamilton at the front of the grid. She's clearly got a talent for racing, thats undeniable, but the fact she has benefitted from positive discrimination during her career whilst pleading she should be treated equally is what "grinds my gears", so to speak.

2012

DTM
Position: no position
10 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Persson Motorsport
Car: Mercedes AMG C-Coupe DTM

Formula 1 - Test and reserve drivers
Team: Williams F1 Team

2011

DTM
Position: no position
9 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: TV Spielfilm AMG Mercedes
Car: AMG Mercedes C-Klasse 08


2010

DTM
Position: 13 (4 points)
11 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Persson Motorsport
Car: AMG-Mercedes C-Klasse 08

2009

DTM
Position: no position
10 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: TV Spielfilm AMG Mercedes
Car: AMG Mercedes C-Klasse 08

2008

DTM
Position: no position
11 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: TV Spielfilm AMG Mercedes
Car: AMG Mercedes C-Klasse 07


2007

DTM
Position: no position
10 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: TV Spielfilm AMG Mercedes
Car: AMG Mercedes C-Klasse 05

2006

DTM
Position: no position
10 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Mücke Motorsport
Car: AMG Mercedes C-Klasse 04


2005

Formula 3 Britain
Position: 18 (2 points)
2 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Alan Docking Racing
Car: Dallara F305 (Mugen-Honda)

2004

Formula Renault 2.0 UK
Position: 5 (284 points)
20 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Comtec Racing

2003

Formula Renault 2.0 UK
Position: 9 (215 points)
17 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 1 podium. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Motaworld Racing

Formula Renault 2.0 UK Winter Series
Position: 17 (6 points)
4 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Motaworld
Car: Tatuus FR2000 (Renault)

2002

Formula Renault 2.0 UK
Position: 18 (45 points)
11 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 0 podiums. 0 fastest laps.
Team: Team DFR

Edited by olliek88, 16 April 2013 - 17:19.

[BRG]

Susie Wolf shouldn't be anywhere near F1, frankly.

Nor should Zsolt Baumgartner or Channoch Nissany. have been. But it's an inequitable world.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Yeah but they were torn apart. And would have been more so had anyone tried to polish their image to us.

[BRG]

Yeah but they were torn apart. And would have been more so had anyone tried to polish their image to us.

But not because of a lack of a Y chromosome.

[Ross Stonefeld]

Yeah there's some knuckle draggers, but they shouldn't be lumped in with qualified criticism.

Women cant be F1 level = false
Susie Wolff isnt F1 level = true

[BoschKurve]

I've always maintained that Susie Wolff is nothing more than a hack driver who has no business involved in F1 as a driver any any form.

Her sugar daddy husband is what got her there, and in my opinion, that sort of thing does more harm than good to the cause of women drivers who may dream of driving in Formula 1. She's also serving as a nice PR piece for a declining/dying F1 team which might explain why she is kept on.

I'd much rather see a woman brought into a team who actually has talent instead of serving as another pretty face.

Edited by BoschKurve, 16 April 2013 - 19:59.

[pacificquay]

And there have been women in F1 during that 63 years

[pingu666]

well lewis was the first black driver? only happened 6 years ago or whatever

[olliek88]

Nor should Zsolt Baumgartner or Channoch Nissany. have been. But it's an inequitable world.

The point i was making was that Susie has pleaded, on several occasions, women should be treated equally (which i totally agree with). Yet she has been treated unequally, in the positive sense, precisely because of her gender.

Its a bit like if Max Chilton bemoaned the existence of pay drivers, pure hypocrisy.

Edited by olliek88, 16 April 2013 - 20:56.

[Currahee]

She seems a like a nice lady (weird accent though)

Her accent is really strange. Its like her 1st language is German and has recently got fluent in English.

[mattferg]

Which of the two teams her husband has shares in do you think should pick her up?

Botts, he's doing really averagely and was completely over hyped, or Hamilton, he's doing badly in that Mercedes and Rosberg is faster anyways.

[Les]

Her accent is really strange. Its like her 1st language is German and has recently got fluent in English.

Yeah indeed I moved to Glasgow around the same time she moved to the DTM. I still have my Aberdonian accent she sounds German! To be fair living and speaking with Toto has probably done that.

I would think that Bosch Kurve has it right that its not really doing any talented woman any favours since Toto is her husband but the press seem to be buying into it. I suppose its easy to make a story about and its also easy to goad poor old Stirling into a controversial comment.

[DanardiF1]

I don't know...... But it all seemed a bit flat and tick box - despite the good intentions.

But I am a racing fan - not a casual viewer..... And as I have said - it just seemed like a documentation of an average racing driver. Kind of the thing that you'd soon be picking up in the 99p DVD section before too long.

But hey. If this provides inspiration for other females to get into motorsport then who am I hiding behind my keyboard..........

On the surface yes it might do, but if anyone then looks further into Wolff's career background they will find that actually Susie got her breaks through the radically pre-feminist attitude of marrying into money and influence. So much for inspiring female drivers to achieve and move up the ladder on merit... no, just find a rich motorsport enthusiast to marry and get him to find you seats within the outfits he's invested in.

What a trailblazer