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[Spamilton]

Just thought this is an interesting topic:

This thread is here for all info related to Race cars vs planes (fighter jets) starts ever held. I will edit the list of the first post to make the list compete of all known matches

Indy-car (Champcar series) vs F/A-18 Hornet =



2003: Ferrari F2003 - Michael Schumacher vs Eurofighter Thyphoon (doubleseater) = Michael won 2 run-offs and possible lost the last one



2007: Spyker F8-VII - Christian Albers vs F-16 C Fighting Falcon RNLAF = F-16 won



Who knows anymore of these matches...???

Edited by Spamilton, 08 May 2013 - 20:39.

[Sakae]

If my recollection is correct without checking, that Michael won one or two run-offs, but lost the last one - still during his first career.

[Spamilton]

If my recollection is correct without checking, that Michael won one or two run-offs, but lost the last one - still during his first career.

Run offs was the word I was looking for. Okay will add this info of the Schumi win

[Sin]

wasn't there one with a Jordan too?

[yoyogetfunky]

Dont jet fighters take a while to spool up the engine? Id rather seen it vs a piston engined fighter. Still, very impressive.

[Spamilton]

Dont jet fighters take a while to spool up the engine? Id rather seen it vs a piston engined fighter. Still, very impressive.

Yeah, F1 cars start is their win, indeed slow start of jet, but if the jet is running it will increases speed much faster than F1 car and catching in rapidly, I guess it depends on the run off area length and which F1 and jet is competing?

[Spamilton]

wasn't there one with a Jordan too?

Could not find it with Google, did found normal race cars against jets like below, but this thread is for F1 cars vs jets only:



Or maybe we can change the tittle into Race cars vs planes?

Edited by Spamilton, 08 May 2013 - 20:27.

[pRy]

Back when Indycar's looked good:

[Spamilton]

Back when Indycar's looked good:

Very nice! I will add it, maybe a mod could change the title into: Race cars vs planes (run-off)

Thanks!

[Sin]

mh in my memory I mixed it up, what I said about jordan earlier..... I saw the Schumi one there..... and somehow in my mind I made Frentzen in Jordan out of it :o

Edited by Sin, 08 May 2013 - 20:53.

[chdphd]

Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari vs Italian Air Force F104 Jet Fighter

[OO7]

Dont jet fighters take a while to spool up the engine? Id rather seen it vs a piston engined fighter. Still, very impressive.

They will hold the brakes with the jet at mil power and select maximum burner at brake release. Mil power to full ab takes about a second or less.

[OO7]

Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari vs Italian Air Force F104 Jet Fighter

The 104 holds the low altitude speed record.

[OssieFan]

If memory serves me correctly, Johnny Herbert drove his Lotus against fighter jet in Adelaide in 1993. (Perhaps at Parafield airport?)

[d246]

I remember Jensen Button racing a speedboat in the London Docks (he was on the City Airport runway) whilst in a Honda. Slightly off topic!

[Rubens Hakkamacher]

So, who knows about the specs of the new cars?

I kinda have the feeling they're not up to the challenge as the earlier cars were.

... and dare I say it, next year it's going to be worse.

What happened to pushing the "amazing" aspect of F1 car performance?

[BoschKurve]

So, who knows about the specs of the new cars?

I kinda have the feeling they're not up to the challenge as the earlier cars were.

... and dare I say it, next year it's going to be worse.

What happened to pushing the "amazing" aspect of F1 car performance?

It was neutered in favor of providing close racing.

[Ravenak]

Back when Indycar's looked good:

That's not an IndyCar.

Edited by Ravenak, 09 May 2013 - 14:15.

[Jackmancer]

Van de Garde recently did vs a helicopter
https://twitter.com/...0429697/photo/1

And here's a video of Gilles;
http://www.youtube.c...p;v=zbl_kM3YiBs

[Clatter]

So, who knows about the specs of the new cars?

I kinda have the feeling they're not up to the challenge as the earlier cars were.

... and dare I say it, next year it's going to be worse.

What happened to pushing the "amazing" aspect of F1 car performance?

I rather think the planes have improved somewhat as the years have passed.

[sosidge]

So, who knows about the specs of the new cars?

I kinda have the feeling they're not up to the challenge as the earlier cars were.

... and dare I say it, next year it's going to be worse.

What happened to pushing the "amazing" aspect of F1 car performance?

I've always felt that the true test of a racing car is a contest with a jet fighter from a standing start. Cornering and overtaking have been greatly over-rated for many years. I share your frustration with the nonsensical direction that F1 has taken by reducing engine sizes, giving the jet fighters a clear advantage.

[ForeverF1]

I think that the true test would be if the F1 car had positive lift, as opposed to downforce, and see which reached 'unstick' speed first.

[saudoso]

Villeneuve, Piquet and Giacomelli took the F-104 the same day:

[saudoso]

That's not an IndyCar.

It's a car that reaced the Indy 500 on it's day.

[wrcva]

this would fit here well... F1 vs. WRC vs. Plane

[Sausage]

I've always felt that the true test of a racing car is a contest with a jet fighter from a standing start. Cornering and overtaking have been greatly over-rated for many years. I share your frustration with the nonsensical direction that F1 has taken by reducing engine sizes, giving the jet fighters a clear advantage.

Many other people also felt that exact way so they invented top fuel dragsters ;)

Tbh it's just marketing bollocks anyway. It's not uninteresting since it's special though also not that interesting, but still whenever such a contest happens it always hits mainstream news so mission accomplished as far as marketing goes

[superdelphinus]

Hardcore jet fighters are about the only machines more awesome than an f1 car IMHO, at least to the child in me

[Jimisgod]

Gilles Villeneuve Ferrari vs Italian Air Force F104 Jet Fighter

No rear wing?

[whitewaterMkII]

They will hold the brakes with the jet at mil power and select maximum burner at brake release. Mil power to full ab takes about a second or less.

My bro in law flys F-16s and even though he's now a wing commander w/ 70 F-16s under his thumb, I have not been able to finagle a ride out of him yet.
However...
They change the engines out fairly frequently and they then do a series of ground checks on them so I was able to get a ride in the front seat of one that had a new engine.
So he took me to the end of the runway and did exactly what you described, which was absolutely frightening. F-16's are not that big, and with that beast on full mil power and him standing on the brakes that thing was shaking like a leaf, and then BOOM, off we go full afterburner. Passed it's final test.
One of the most amazing things I've ever been lucky enough to do.

[saudoso]

I would be grinning like a maniac for a week after that. My wife would kick me out of the house.

[Kalmake]

No rear wing?

In the video there are shots with and without wing. I guess they tried both.

[OO7]

My bro in law flys F-16s and even though he's now a wing commander w/ 70 F-16s under his thumb, I have not been able to finagle a ride out of him yet.
However...
They change the engines out fairly frequently and they then do a series of ground checks on them so I was able to get a ride in the front seat of one that had a new engine.
So he took me to the end of the runway and did exactly what you described, which was absolutely frightening. F-16's are not that big, and with that beast on full mil power and him standing on the brakes that thing was shaking like a leaf, and then BOOM, off we go full afterburner. Passed it's final test.
One of the most amazing things I've ever been lucky enough to do.

What a fantastic experience, you lucky b@%£?$!. You mentioned you were in the front seat?