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#101 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:12

So, what are everyone's favourite indy racer that has not won the 500?
I have a soft spot for the Mallard. For some reason the Lotus 56 get's a lot of coverage despite breaking down.


Any car ugly or beautiful that is pretty seperate from how everyone else is looking at the time I tend to fall in love with.

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I'll post more when I can think of more but these three came to mind first.

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#102 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:25

God I'm glad I'm the age I am.

#103 OfficeLinebacker

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:38

So, what are everyone's favourite indy racer that has not won the 500?
I have a soft spot for the Mallard. For some reason the Lotus 56 get's a lot of coverage despite breaking down.

That weird offset thing Smokey Yunick brought.

Any Smokey Yunick creation that never won, for that matter.

#104 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:58

God I'm glad I'm the age I am.


Why is that?


#105 Deluxx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:09

Cuz you could always be older :p

#106 whitewaterMkII

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:16

God I'm glad I'm the age I am.

Me too.
Reminds us old dogs we can still judge nice shit.
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Ya know, back when indy meant something. (runs and hides)
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#107 Lemnpiper

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:42

So, what are everyone's favourite indy racer that has not won the 500?
I have a soft spot for the Mallard. For some reason the Lotus 56 get's a lot of coverage despite breaking down.



Lloyd Ruby Or Vitor Meira

Someone driving a NOVI

Edited by Lemnpiper, 11 May 2013 - 07:44.


#108 Lemnpiper

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:47

Any car ugly or beautiful that is pretty seperate from how everyone else is looking at the time I tend to fall in love with.

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It wouldnt take many modifications to make that car legal in 2013 bodywork wise




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#109 Victor_RO

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:48

Question: isn't Conor Daly supposed to be doing his rookie orientation this weekend at Indy? What the hell is he doing running GP3 in Spain today?

#110 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:01

btw since we've moved the 'live' Indycar conversation to here, there is now video from overhead of Sato v Newgarden and Sato v Hinchcliffe in Brazil

http://www.youtube.c...EuWAiywA#t=106s

If some of those moves aren't blocking, I want you to be my lawyer.


Apart from the move with Newgarden Sato just drove straight every time. Only in that first one was there the slightest move to block.

I'd say it was all above board.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:56

First time I was aware of Indy 500 was 81 when I read the newspaper report into Unser's "yellow" line win. Still didn't really understand it (I was 7) till I saw it on tape a few years later. Recalled 1982 because of Smiley's crash - came just after Villeneuve's so the papers ran the usual "racing death traps" stories - and the start crash.

First one I watched highlights of was 1984, Grandstand - a Saturday afternoon sports show - ran highlights the week after the race. Saw my first whole live race in 1995 courtesy of Sky Sports, and since moving to the US have been sure to catch all the action on Pole Day & especially Bump Day.


Almost exactly the same (except I had just turned 8 in 1981) and I haven't moved to the US! Was 84 Pat Bedards crash because I remember that clearly! fairly sure sky was running live before 1995 though because I watched the Mansell ones live somehow..

#112 E.B.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:27

fairly sure sky was running live before 1995 though because I watched the Mansell ones live somehow..


1992 was certainly shown live on Sky, it was the one and only occasion I've been able to see the whole thing live.


#113 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:36

Me too.
Reminds us old dogs we can still judge nice shit.
Like this.
1994 Penske PC 23
Mercedes Benz 209ci
When they didn't active suspension, DRS, bajillion dollar budgets and those other bullshit gizmos.
Ya know, back when indy meant something. (runs and hides)
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That was a great era for good looking cars in any discipline really.

I always loved Valvoline sponsored Indycars of that time.

#114 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:37

Question: isn't Conor Daly supposed to be doing his rookie orientation this weekend at Indy? What the hell is he doing running GP3 in Spain today?


Because he's running the full GP3 championship.

Apart from the move with Newgarden Sato just drove straight every time. Only in that first one was there the slightest move to block.

I'd say it was all above board.


No, he moves on both drivers. He makes reactive moves too. It's not just "oh the straight bends a bit there".



#115 PayasYouRace

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 10:56

No, he moves on both drivers. He makes reactive moves too. It's not just "oh the straight bends a bit there".


With Hinch there's clearly no steering movement.

#116 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:24

There's quite a bit of steering movement. If you watch the onboards there's usually a car width's left to the right. Maybe Sato was trying to get close to the wall to reduce the wind resistance...

#117 gm914

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:41

I've always dug the Penske Norton Spirit PC-9B
Dat yellow glass!

(Although it did win the 500 in '81 with Bobby Unser, so it doesn't count.)

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#118 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:49

I give up, what was Norton back then? Obviously not anti-virus software...




#119 Andrew Hope

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 13:04

Most cars from 72-75ish were quite pretty.

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#120 gm914

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 13:05

I give up, what was Norton back then? Obviously not anti-virus software...

They made abrasives. For grinders and stuff.

#121 Risil

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 13:15

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Refer you back to post #2. It's barely even a racing car and it looks like a shoe. Something about it encapsulates the spirit of the Indy 500 though, as something a little bigger than mere auto racing.

From Cummins's own website:

The Great Depression was hitting hard during the race’s 20th year. Indianapolis Motor Speedway owner Eddie Rickenbacker was having a tough time finding cars to fill out the field, but letting a diesel-powered car into the race was unheard of. There were not any rules governing diesels, and the AAA’s contest board had to allow the diesel car to race as a special engineering entry because the car was too heavy and the engine displacement too large to qualify under existing rules.

Cummins didn’t expect to win, but he and his crew had a different achievement in mind – he just wanted a chance to show the world the fuel efficiency and durability of the diesel engine. The #8 Cummins Special qualified with an average speed of 97 mph. Two days later, with Dave Evans behind the wheel, it became the first entry ever to run the entire race nonstop, finishing 13th on just $1.40 worth of "furnace oil."


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#122 Deluxx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:07

Most cars from 72-75ish were quite pretty.



Omg I'm drooling. Beautiful

#123 jonpollak

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 16:10

Streaming Club is LIVE all day
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#124 Deluxx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:02

ty nigerian. ur sound is messed up tho

#125 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:09

Uh, scroll to the bottom of the page?

#126 Deluxx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:11

Oh lol, it just doesnt update that fast. xD

#127 Red17

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:41

Newsflash! Will Power has successfully completed a practice run.

#128 Deluxx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:41

Anyone else hearing that girl?

"In 3-2-1: Here at the Indianapolis motor speedway, people have alot of answers and indy has all the questions"
"Crap start over"

#129 Prost1997T

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:50

Say what you will about their looks, but the cars sound great.

#130 Risil

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:54

"In 3-2-1: Here at the Indianapolis motor speedway, people have alot of answers and indy has all the questions"


Holy shit that's amazing

#131 Red17

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:56

IMS Radio takes over after this weekend right?

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 18:55

Anyone else hearing that girl?


That's Makabebe Chrunderloo.
NSC's emergency service announcer.
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#133 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 19:22

We interrupt this broadcast for an announcement of national importance

Subject: Nigerian Astronaut Wants To Come Home
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Dear Mr. Sir,

REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home.

In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $ 15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance.

Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount to your account or subsequent disbursement, since we as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/ or operating foreign accounts in our names.

Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed to offer you 20 percent of the transferred sum, while 10 percent shall be set aside for incidental expenses (internal and external) between the parties in the course of the transaction. You will be mandated to remit the balance 70 percent to other accounts in due course.

Kindly expedite action as we are behind schedule to enable us include downpayment in this financial quarter.

Please acknowledge the receipt of this message via my direct number 234 (0) 9-234-2220 only.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 19:33

Question: isn't Conor Daly supposed to be doing his rookie orientation this weekend at Indy? What the hell is he doing running GP3 in Spain today?


Flying back Sunday after the sprint race according to Will Buxton today. Nice to be in demand, I guess.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 19:53

Flying back Sunday after the sprint race according to Will Buxton today. Nice to be in demand, I guess.


In that case he should make it in time to do his ROP tomorrow. Luckily there's no GP3 round at Monaco this year.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:26

Conor posted on Facebook that IndyCar is playing nice and letting him run the ROP on Monday. Good to see one series allow a driver who is running in another series to skirt the rules this one time.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:14

I can't believe Ross hasn't found a way to fund his racing aspirations . . .

#138 Risil

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:24

I can't believe Ross hasn't found a way to fund his racing aspirations . . .


It's a tough market out there with all the competing claims from Nigerian astronauts.

#139 Lemnpiper

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 00:59

[quote name='Risil' date='May 11 2013, 09:15' post='6260393']
Refer you back to post #2. It's barely even a racing car and it looks like a shoe. Something about it encapsulates the spirit of the Indy 500 though, as something a little bigger than mere auto racing.



Someone should post a pic of the "Catfish"

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#140 Red17

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 18:52

Is it this one?
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Or this one?

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#141 Lemnpiper

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 19:10

Is it this one?
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Or this one?

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Thanks Red ,

Catfish is the bottom car

The top car is the Wilbur Shaw "Payday" car , with which he had great success. In fact that car raced into the post ww2 era ( George Barringer was killed in it at Lakewood in 1946) under various owners with a decent amount of success as well.

#142 Risil

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 23:26

Carlos Munoz third-fastest on the opening day and fastest on day two. Anyone expect that?

And does it mean anything?

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 23:31

Carlos Munoz third-fastest on the opening day and fastest on day two. Anyone expect that?

Can't speak for everybody but I didn't :blush: :D

And does it mean anything?

Well, something I guess  ;)

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 03:56

Carlos Munoz third-fastest on the opening day and fastest on day two. Anyone expect that?

And does it mean anything?


I knew the Andretti team would be quick. Nearly took pole last year and had quick cars last year. The best team of the start of the current season as well. Usually seems to translate to Indianapolis.

Does it mean anything? Not sure. Saavedra was pretty quick early on in the same deal at Munoz last year. Didn't pan out and was quiet for the rest of the month, but... but, he is quicker this season in a small, but strong, Lights field, than Sebastien.

The biggest question is what one of the cars will fall? Not all 5 are going to be front running machines, so what driver drops down the grid? Is it Munoz, or Viso (another surprise)? Or is it one of the big names on the team?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:39

Carlos Munoz third-fastest on the opening day and fastest on day two. Anyone expect that?

And does it mean anything?


As a complete newbie to the forum, I'll tackle this! I would say it means nothing. All those top 6 speeds came at the same moment, about an hour before the end of practice, when the 5 Andretti cars came out to do some work on drafting (and Allmendinger was caught up in it as well). Munoz was just in the perfect spot to draft off of Marco and RHR who were the lead cars. In fact, right after he set that speed, Munoz NEARLY bungled into Marco and had to lock up, almost ending up on the grass.

The good news is that the crazy drafting effects of the DW12 that caused thirty-odd lead changes in last year's race is still in effect this year. Those fat hips are like a natural DRS!

This is my first year where I've got the racecontrol.indycar.com feed going at all times in the background. I'm getting a little obsessed. It's somewhat comforting to hear the gurgle of Indycars coming out of my speakers while I'm puttering around on other tasks.



#146 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:58

Andretti have seemed to put all their cars out early and go for speed where other teams are taking their time. We've yet to see the full grid out.

Plus last year remember how quick Newgarden was every practice day?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 19:56

RHR close to 224mph on day 3. I'm going to go out on a limb and say pole will be edging 230mph this year.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 20:18

Was Hunter-Reay in the draft when he set that lap?

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 20:24

Was Hunter-Reay in the draft when he set that lap?


Nope, most of the cars I've been watching on the stream are turning laps alone.

Edit: Pagenaud, Tags, and a couple of Rahal cars are forming a train now.

Edited by Prost1997T, 13 May 2013 - 20:27.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 20:43

If it's a genuine 224 on race boost without a draft, I'm impressed, and quali boost will certainly push it towards 228-229.

EDIT: Marco just did a 225 in someone's tow.