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Barcelona 2013: The Race


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#1 jrg19

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:31

1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
3. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
4. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus-Renault
5. Fernando Alonso Ferrari
6. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault
7. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
8. Sergio Perez McLaren-Mercedes
9. Felipe Massa Ferrari
10. Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes
11. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari
12. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari
13. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
14. Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
15. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber-Ferrari
16. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Renault
17. Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault
18. Giedo van der Garde Caterham-Renault
19. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari
20. Jules Bianchi Marussia-Cosworth
21. Max Chilton Marussia-Cosworth
22. Charles Pic Caterham-Renault

Grid for tomorrow with penalties.

I predict strong races from Sebastian, Kimi and Fernando.

Going to be interesting to see if anyone can two stop.

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#2 TheThirdTenor1

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:40

- I think Mercedes will drop back, but not THAT quickly, because it is a bit more difficult to pass at Barcelona compared to Bahrain and i doubt they will struggle with the rear tyres as much.
- This track has the longest run down to turn 1 so there could be some significant position gains or losses for any fast or slow starters respectively.
- Alonso has gone for a very long gears/shallow wing levels meaning he has a very high top speed, especially compared to Vettel (though this didn't seem to hamper Vettel at all in Bahrain).


#3 Kingshark

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:52

Given the nature of the Barcelona circuit, and Mercedes' top speed, I can definitely see them holding up the 3 drivers behind them until lap 8-10, or whenever they need to pit. Then they will be jumped and drop back.

Alonso, Raikkonen or Vettel for the win, hopefully Fernando.

#4 Antonov

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:59

i gope it rains.

#5 V3TT3L

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:08

Again:
From 22 editions held so far in Barcelona, the Spanish GP was won from the front row.
Except for the distant 1996 when the race was held under rain and P3 Michael Schumacher won it.

#6 Longtimefan

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:10

Quite frankly, I'm not that fussy who wins (as long as its not a Merc)
I just hope theres good racing and team orders or Pirelli crap doesn't ruin it.


#7 TheF1BOB

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:12

Alonso with his superior top speed will surely win this, no?

#8 fdspd

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:23

Alonso has to stay close through the final sector to make use of that top speed down the main straight. But, he was losing a lot of time through the final sector in low-fuel mode, so let's see how it goes in the race.

#9 Fastcake

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:41

I would be pleasantly surprised if the Merc's don't drop back after the first 10 laps, but I really doubt it.


#10 Callisto

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 00:15

Quite frankly, I'm not that fussy who wins (as long as its not a Merc)
I just hope theres good racing and team orders or Pirelli crap doesn't ruin it.

Why would you not want Mercedes to win?

#11 klyster

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 00:39

Prerogative maybe? :)

I don't want a certain Red Bull to win, I'd love to see Mark win though.

#12 stobiesaur

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 00:57

Kimi is in a good spot if he can replicate Melbourne & Bahrain form & do 1 stop less than most. Any indication from long runs on Friday & Saturday to indicate Lotus tyres are lasting longer again?

Sadly for Mercedes I see them just going backwards but i'm ready to be surprised

#13 f1rookie

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:02


Qualifying In Pictures - 2013 Spanish Grand Prix

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#14 Kelateboy

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:41

Vettel, Alonso and Raikkonen for the win.

Podium contenders - Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen and Grosjean.

#15 ArkZ

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:57

Spanish GP 2011 start
Spanish GP 2012 start
Start will be crucial for Mercedes if they will survive it ,then probably they will be leading until their tires will lose grip.

Edited by ArkZ, 12 May 2013 - 07:58.


#16 Ellios

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:10

Spanish GP 2011 start
Spanish GP 2012 start
Start will be crucial for Mercedes if they will survive it ,then probably they will be leading until their tires will lose grip.


I know why I'm not a fan of David Croft commentary

Mercs will get away with Vettel hounding them, I think VET will get past at least one of them by the end of the first lap. Alonso - Vettel for the win


#17 SamH123

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:18

Probably one of the closest races ever
Any of the top 4 teams can win, in fact they all have around a 25% chance +- a few %

#18 Nonesuch

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:19

Alonso with his superior top speed will surely win this, no?

There's not much use in having a high top speed if it ends up giving you trouble in the lower speed sections of the track. Bahrain was obviously an extreme and exaggerated example of this.

Spanish GP 2012 start

Was the guy commentating this OK afterwards? What a clown. :down:

It brings up an important point though, the first corner is quite high speed compared to some of the other ones out there on other circuits. With the way the grid is lined up, I just hope we can avoid any contact.

#19 Timstr11

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:32

Does anyone have an accurate overview of who's got what new tyre left for the race?

I know Vettel, Rosberg and Hamilton have each 3 new sets of hards available.
What about mediums? And what about the Lotus and Ferrari drivers?

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#20 seahawk

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:41

I think Lewis will win this.

#21 Went

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:42

Does anyone have an accurate overview of who's got what new tyre left for the race?

I know Vettel, Rosberg and Hamilton have each 3 new sets of hards available.
What about mediums? And what about the Lotus and Ferrari drivers?



2 new sets of hards for them. All softs used once. Lotus used the additional hards twice, Ferrari once.

Vet, Ros and Ham used all softs, one for each Q round.

Edited by Went, 12 May 2013 - 08:44.


#22 Radion

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:47

Hamilton's pace at the end of the bahrain grand prix wasn't bad at all!
So it's not a given, that the merc will fall that much down in terms of tyres compaired to their competetors...

Edited by Radion, 12 May 2013 - 08:48.


#23 D.M.N.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:54

Eddie Jordan is doing the podium interviews today, so if any of the top three drivers slow down dramatically towards the end, that is why. ;)

#24 SamH123

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:55

The mercs problems in the first stint don't seem to be tyre wear

In Bahrain Rosberg was slow from the word go
If that was because of being way out the temperature window then they will surely be better here

Edited by SamH123, 12 May 2013 - 08:55.


#25 Timstr11

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:04

2 new sets of hards for them. All softs used once. Lotus used the additional hards twice, Ferrari once.

Vet, Ros and Ham used all softs, one for each Q round.

Thanks.

#26 Wade

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:11

I would like a Hamilton or Kimi win, but I have a feeling Vettel/Alonso will win this. We shall see!

#27 ocp

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:16

Alonso with his superior top speed will surely win this, no?


Well, RB has superior acceleration out of the corners...

It is not so simple. Nobody knows, everybody is guessing and that is why we like it.

#28 SamH123

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:23

VET, ROS, HAM have 3 new sets of hard tyres for race, ALO has 2 and RAI and GRO just 1. Have to factor that in today.
(James Allen twitter)

I didn't realise that about Lotus

#29 robefc

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:25

Eddie Jordan is doing the podium interviews today, so if any of the top three drivers slow down dramatically towards the end, that is why.;)


:lol:

Frankly I'm just keeping my fingers crossed merc have solved their race pace/tyre temp/tyre eating problems and secondly that Lewis flukes into a good set up. Brawn, Nico and Lewis all sound doubtful on these issues.

Edited by robefc, 12 May 2013 - 09:37.


#30 Lights

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:26

Alonso with his superior top speed will surely win this, no?

If anything it will wear down his tyres quicker.

#31 kenkip

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:27

Anyone watched the GP2?Kindergarden racing from that lot,especialy in the last lap,.
No wonder Alonso is always complaining about the GP2 mentality!

#32 Ferrari2183

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:28

Alonso has to stay close through the final sector to make use of that top speed down the main straight. But, he was losing a lot of time through the final sector in low-fuel mode, so let's see how it goes in the race.

I think the Ferrari's will be fine in the 3rd sector on race fuel.

#33 SUPRAF1

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:30

I wonder what Brawn will do if Merc are in a situation similar to Malaysia with Hamilton and Rosberg close together, but too far away from other drivers on either side.

#34 Lights

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:34

@ValtteriBottas: Anyone who has been wondering where my helmetcam has been positioned this weekend, there it is:

Hope we get some in battle race footage from it. Wonder if this helmet cam is rotated between drivers or .. ?

#35 SunnyENTP

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:35

I wonder what Brawn will do if Merc are in a situation similar to Malaysia with Hamilton and Rosberg close together, but too far away from other drivers on either side.



If either driver really does not want any radio communication then overtake and let it stick. Nico failed in 2 attempts as he is not a great defender. I think Lewis would make it stick and move on.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:40

If either driver really does not want any radio communication then overtake and let it stick. Nico failed in 2 attempts as he is not a great defender. I think Lewis would make it stick and move on.


Would Brawn let them fight if they are fighting for say 1st and 2nd? Kind of a big risk to take :p

Edited by SUPRAF1, 12 May 2013 - 09:41.


#37 Cavani

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:52

expect team orders problema between merc drivers

#38 Nigol

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:56

expect team orders problema between merc drivers


I think Nico might expect Brawn to make such call. Difficult position...

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:17

SuperCup race is going on and looks like there are too much clouds...AFAIK no rain predicted, or?

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#40 Vesuvius

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:30

SuperCup race is going on and looks like there are too much clouds...AFAIK no rain predicted, or?


McLaren says showers possible but don't disturb race...

James Allen predicts Mercedes vs Vettel and Alonso, think Lotus has no chances lol, I think that may be come hunt him after he race :)

#41 rjsports

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:33

I think Vettel will have a good start and maybe even overtake the two Mercs in the first corner. From there on it's just an easy cruize to the finish. Ideally the two Mercs will have a good start which will make it atleast 2 interesting laps.

#42 kosmos

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:41

A lot of people in the circuit.

#43 Vesuvius

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:43

Withmarsh thinks Kimi vs Alonso for win today and they will able to do 3 stops while many will faill and have to do 4 stops.

#44 Longtimefan

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:20

Grosjean next to Alonso is making me nervous.



#45 kurski

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:21

Finnish MTV3MAX channel F1 commentator Mika Salo said no more this year he FIA Stewards races

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:21

How many sets of tyres did Kimi use yesterday? Three sets of medium and one or two sets of hard? I dunno which tyres he completed his second etap in Q1.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:23

How many sets of tyres did Kimi use yesterday? Three sets of medium and one or two sets of hard? I dunno which tyres he completed his second etap in Q1.


Kimi only has one new set of hards left as he used two sets in Q1

#48 SCUDmissile

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:23

EJ not holding back. Going straight to MW and telling him if he was a Football Manager, he would be sacked. :eek:

#49 Bartonz20let

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:23

Grosjean next to Alonso is making me nervous.


Grosjean makes me nervous full stop.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:23

Grosjean next to Alonso is making me nervous.


Don't be! Grosjean has had good starts lately and he stayed out of trouble in many occasions. Plus, I'm pretty sure Alonso has this win in the bag :).