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[TR0003]

I have some old photos from Mt Druitt which I will try to post. Not having much luck at the moment.

Edited by TR0003, 18 May 2013 - 11:54.

[Ray Bell]

Have you read through the Imageshack 'sticky' thread yet?

That should help you... and we do look forward to seeing the pics...

[tsrwright]

Good excuse to put up this photo from the Graham Howard collection; obviously Ron Taurenac in Ralt 1 to left and John Medley has promised to identify the other cars. On the back in GH's hand it says "but where?". JM says its Mt Druitt and probably it must be.

<a href="http://img841.images...752001001.jpg/" target="_blank"><img src="http://img841.images...2001001.th.jpg" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" border="0"/></a>





http://yfrog.com/n6ralt127752001001j

PS Well, as you can see, it doesn't work for me either, despite using a variety of ImageShack links. It worked fine yesterday. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

I am only a new member but in the four years I have been posting there has been no sign of any development to make photo-posting user-friendly and reliable. Other forums can do it so it would be good to have something done about it here.

I haven't read the posting photos thread recently but last time I looked I felt it was very muddled and contradictory in places. Perhaps 'management' could clear the decks and post clear guidance and precise instructions that also deal with other image hosting facilities such as Picasa. The more that photo-posting can be simplified the better the forum will be. The camera does not lie, even if it doesn't tell the whole story.

Edited by tsrwright, 19 May 2013 - 02:20.

[Catalina Park]

You need the actual address of the photo with "img" tags at each end.



Click quote on my post and see what I did to get the link to work.

[tsrwright]

You need the actual address of the photo with "img" tags at each end.

Click quote on my post and see what I did to get the link to work.

First part above, I used every one of the codes listed on ImageShack Uploader. When I went to my page on ImageShack itself there was the photo (below) but with a DIFFERENT code. So maybe the problem lies with ImageShack Uploader. I would be much happier using Picasa if anyone knows how. I have tried bracketing the url with but haven't been able to get it to work

Second part above, sorry I just don't get what you mean. And Ray Bell, the Sticky is no good to anyone. Maybe you could write new guidance?

[img]http://imageshack.us...27752001001.jpg

So is this Mt Druitt folks?

Edited by tsrwright, 19 May 2013 - 11:10.

[kayemod]

...the Sticky is no good to anyone. Maybe you could write new guidance?

Couldn't agree more, that thread is ludicrously over-complicated, and even contradictory in places, many a TNF newcomer must have skimmed through that thread and given up, I know I did. However, well known TNF regular Giraffe came to my aid, he e-mailed me some Imageshack guidance that summed everything up clearly and concisely in about twenty lines. I followed these instructions, and they worked perfectly, no further problems at all. I think that Imageshack has changed slightly since then, but I've passed on this set of instructions to several other struggling members since then, and all have found like I did, that it's really all quite simple. I'd be happy to forward this little gem to anyone who PMs me an e-mail address, and send cash payments directly onto Tony (Giraffe) please, you'll be as grateful to him as I was.

[GMACKIE]

I'm guilty of the above. After spending a lot of time trying, I thought "Why waste time trying to figure this out, when you can waste time working on the race cars?"

Will PM my email address.......Many thanks.

[TR0003]

Hi, in my ignorance I started a new topic and then realised my mistake however I couldn't seem to delete. As you can see the photographs are appearing in the old photo topic of the Nostalgia Forum. I am getting a hang of it. .

[tsrwright]

Couldn't agree more, that thread is ludicrously over-complicated, and even contradictory in places, many a TNF newcomer must have skimmed through that thread and given up, I know I did. However, well known TNF regular Giraffe came to my aid, he e-mailed me some Imageshack guidance that summed everything up clearly and concisely in about twenty lines. I followed these instructions, and they worked perfectly, no further problems at all. I think that Imageshack has changed slightly since then, but I've passed on this set of instructions to several other struggling members since then, and all have found like I did, that it's really all quite simple. I'd be happy to forward this little gem to anyone who PMs me an e-mail address, and send cash payments directly onto Tony (Giraffe) please, you'll be as grateful to him as I was.

Maybe you or Tony could post that guidance here or in the Sticky?

Is 'management' watching though - can it do something - I think my points have been supported?

But is it Mt Druitt folks?

Edited by tsrwright, 20 May 2013 - 00:45.

[john medley]

The backmarkers are Warwick Pratley (Skate 2) and Laurie Oxenford (Alvis Mercury), Jesse Griffiths (Skate 3 aka "The White Car", then the MGs in front of them (Ron Ward's special bodied car, the square rigger not yet known) Ron T in Ralt 1, and the poor thing to the right in one pic when the rain came is the 1100 Alta Special built originally by Bill Dutton in Victoria, but raced here by Keith Ralph undoubtedly adding to its perfect record of unreliability. This last is the car that Graeme and Betty Lowe engined their black Alta with.

My view is Mt Druitt, because basically it was a two track choice, the very flat Marsden Park with scrubby vegetation either side the other possibility. These pics show the slope up to that tree in the background, the tree being the one that shaded The Castle on the start-finish line, The Castle giving its name first to Castle Curve later Castle Corner after the start. The elegantly dressed man doing the starting is Belf Jones who lived in The Castle, and later ploughed up the airstrip, scars probably still visible today

[Wirra]

I have just compiled a guide on how I go about posting photos. It is mostly screen images with a line or two of text.

If anyone is interested in a copy just send me a message including an email address I can send the document to.

Hope this helps

Wirra

[GMACKIE]

Couldn't agree more, that thread is ludicrously over-complicated, and even contradictory in places, many a TNF newcomer must have skimmed through that thread and given up, I know I did. However, well known TNF regular Giraffe came to my aid, he e-mailed me some Imageshack guidance that summed everything up clearly and concisely in about twenty lines. I followed these instructions, and they worked perfectly, no further problems at all. I think that Imageshack has changed slightly since then, but I've passed on this set of instructions to several other struggling members since then, and all have found like I did, that it's really all quite simple. I'd be happy to forward this little gem to anyone who PMs me an e-mail address, and send cash payments directly onto Tony (Giraffe) please, you'll be as grateful to him as I was.

Just posted a photo, thanks to Rob and Tony.

Cheers, Greg

[tsrwright]

Tonight I followed Robs advice via Tony. It was a better version of what I understood to be the procedure. I uploaded some photos at 800 wide which I know works and is a neat size for TNF. All I got was microscopic thumb nails. Two hours later I find that not only do you need to set the upload size (if it is too large TNF won't accept it but won't say why) but you have to set the download size in Image shack when you ask for the code for Forums. Imageshack doesn't tell you this and defaults to thumbnail unless you change it. Another evening wasted and no photos posted.

[Wirra]

A DAY AT THE MOTOR RACES
By A Staff Correspondent

THIRTY thousand picnicking spectators in 8.000 cars make a phenomenon in Australian sport and entertainment at Sydney's monthly motor races at Mt. Druitt.

CARS park two to four deep the whole length of the two and a quarter miles racing track. Spectators drive between races from one vantage point to another over "horror stretches" in the seemingly endless acres of paddocks around the track.

Vendors sell hot water, hot dogs, all the usual provendor of picnics. Children play rounders or foot-ball between races.

By the standards of Britain's famous Brooklands, the informality is extreme for the spectators, but it is typically Australian - sunshine, open air, gum trees.

The Australian Racing Drivers' Club, however, applies the strictest international rules of com- petition to its 12- or 14-race programme.

Officials on motor cycles patrol the boundary fences. White uniformed officials with international motor racing flags signal the drivers safely through the races-a blue flag waved - "a competitor is trying to overtake you"; a yellow flag waved "great danger, be prepared to stop"; yellow, with vertical red stripes-"take care, oil has been spilt on the track."

A public address system links the whole of the two and a quarter miles of track with the finishing line.

A truck tows breakdowns off the course, often two at a time, ignominiously, like a defeated bull dragged from the ring.

At the end of the day 8,000 cars crowd the Great Western Highway in a colossal traffic jam, in which the "hot rodders," after a few imitative accelerations, lose their ardour for speed on frustrating miles of bumper-to bumper driving.

What attracts this crowd to" a venue nearly 40 miles from the city is the excitement of speeds up to 140 miles an hour and skid turns on hairpin and right-angle bends.

The straight of the bitumen track is a wartime airstrip.

The club conducts events for racing, sports, and stock cars and has 60 to 70 competitors at a meeting.

Most of the competitors are owner-drivers-fanatical seekers of perfection in the assembling and tuning of motors.

They acquire a car, according to their means and choice. If it is a stock model they remachine and reassemble parts of the motor, and fit new parts, two carburettors, and a "blower" (a supercharger), which gives the ultimate "kick."

In all types of cars running and maintenance costs are high. A set of tyres is good for only 500 racing miles. A car may run half a mile and burn the top out of a piston. An owner may spend £250 on a new cylinder head and find it does not fit satisfactorily.

THE glamour driver of the moment is a 26-year-old motor engineer, Jack Brabham, with his British £4,000 six cylinder Cooper (frame)-Bristol (motor).

He is a former Australian midget car champion, whom some club officials put in "world class."

In the lingo of the fans, he "lashes the loud pedal-{accelerator) down to the boards" and scorns the "anchors" (brakes).

His driving is, indeed, a spectacle as he relentlessly mows down a field, flashes past car after car, and changes gears at 85 to 90 miles an hour.

But the fans are watching a £7,000 Italian Ferrari, with a 12-cylinder two litre engine having a power output of 250 b.h.p. and a top speed around 150 m.p.h. "Owner Dick Cobden, a fine driver, has had the car only a few months and is still familiarising himself with its tuning and driving.

The Ferrari is a Grand Prix car, which famous English driver, Peter Whitehead, drove in the Lady Wigram trophy at Christ- church, New Zealand, early this year.

PHOTO
A Sunday crowd watches Jack Brabham cornering in his Cooper-Bristol at Mt. Druitt.

ref: SMH - 14th Aug 1954

[TR0003]

Wow 30000 spectators in 8000 cars! What would that spin out to at our current population levels. I gather that the population of Sydney in 1954 was about 1.8 million and is now about 4.5 million so that means about 75,000. V8 supercars at Eastern Creek last year turned up about 24000 spectators but other race meetings are much higher.

Edited by TR0003, 22 May 2013 - 07:26.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by tsrwright
Tonight I followed Robs advice via Tony. It was a better version of what I understood to be the procedure. I uploaded some photos at 800 wide which I know works and is a neat size for TNF. All I got was microscopic thumb nails. Two hours later I find that not only do you need to set the upload size (if it is too large TNF won't accept it but won't say why) but you have to set the download size in Image shack when you ask for the code for Forums. Imageshack doesn't tell you this and defaults to thumbnail unless you change it. Another evening wasted and no photos posted.

Once again I have to tell you...

You, not anyone else, are complicating the whole thing! You are taking no notice of any post I make explaining how simple it really is.

Forget the uploader, that's got nothing to do with it! I have never used the uploader, I simply upload from the 'My Imageshack' page.

Then you just click on the 'Forums' link and copy and paste it JUST AS IT APPEARS THERE on a fresh line in your post.

Your resizing, as I have repeatedly told you, should be done before you upload. Please, stop mucking around with this. Download Irfanview if you haven't already done so, use that to prepare your photos, then SIMPLY upload them to Imageshack as I've shown repeatedly with screen prints in the pertinent thread.

The biggest problem with that thread is that people kept on using it for testing their uploading skills, or telling us that there were other and better ways. I have no doubt that Picasa can be used, I see plenty of people using Photobucket, but I still find Imageshack REALLY SIMPLE and you should too.

I realise this post is somewhat harsh in its approach, but your continual and repeated complaints, followed by your refusal to take my advice, forces me to underline that the problem is that you are not taking the advice given.

Step 1 - download Irfanview and use that to prepare photos for posting.

Step 2 - using the regular Imageshack page, not the uploader, upload your pictures to Imageshack.

Step 3 - copy and paste the 'Forums' string, DO NOT DESCEND TO THE THUMBNAILS unless you specifically want to post a thumbnail.

My e-mail address is below, if you have any problem with that contact me directly. I will steer you through the process with whatever screen prints etc you might require. But please stop rejecting my assistance.

Edited by Ray Bell, 22 May 2013 - 10:38.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by TR0003
Wow! 30,000 spectators in 8000 cars! What would that spin out to at our current population levels? I gather that the population of Sydney in 1954 was about 1.8 million and is now about 4.5 million so that means about 75,000. V8 Supercars at Eastern Creek last year turned up about 24,000 spectators but other race meetings are much higher.

It's not apples and apples, however...

The Mt Druitt gig was on every month, it was mentioned a few posts back. They had no big major event, as the V8s purport to be.

On the other hand, the meeting wasn't televised, was it?

I'd think that 30,000 was a highly exaggerated figure, just like the 140mph, the skids on the bends and a lot of other poorly-written dialogue in that story.

[Tim Murray]

Then you just click on the 'Hotlink for forums (1)' and copy and paste it JUST AS IT APPEARS THERE on a fresh line in your post.

I no longer have the 'Hotlink for forums (1)' option available' This is the screen I now see:



As Ray says, all I then have to do is copy and paste the 'Forum Code' link into my TNF post, with no additions or alterations, and so far I've had 100% success.

[Ray Bell]

You have not, however, gone to the 'My Images' page to seek your options, always a better thing to do...

And yes, you are right, the 'Hotlink for Forums (1)' line is no longer there. But as I posted above, it simply says 'Forums' now. That is the page you automatically get when you upload more than one picture at a time... unlike what you have got there when you uploaded just the one picture... here is how it looks:



A closer look at the thumbnail of the pic required...



Click on the 'i' and you get your options:



So it simply says 'Forums' now. Note we're not dealing with the Thumbnail options, down lower. Left click on the string, right click to get the dialog box:



Left click on 'copy' and then paste to your post:



You do have the option (one step back) of unchecking the 'include details' box. To all intents and purposes this is not worth worrying about, but trying it will show if it makes any difference in the individual user's case (like putting the 'Imageshack' stamp on the post).

I would much preferred not to have to put this stuff into this thread, but it became necessary with your post.

[Tim Murray]

I would much preferred not to have to put this stuff into this thread, but it became necessary with your post.

I posted what I did because you had posted incorrect info which was likely to confuse Terry even more. If you correct your earlier post I'll happily delete mine.

[Ray Bell]

As you might have perceived, Tim, my greatest concern is that he rejects every single bit of advice I give him...

He hasn't once acknowledged any post I've made to try to help him along in this, now I have asked him directly to contact me by e-mail so I can help him more thoroughly.

I'll delete the 'Hotlink for Forums (1)' bit from that line, but there's no need to delete your post now this is all up here. None of this would have been necessary, I don't think, if people hadn't treated the 'sticky' thread with the disrespect they have. It is tiresome, of course, that the Imageshack pages have changed in appearance over time too.

I've prepared new screen shots of all the usual steps for dealing with pics in Irfanview too, when he gets in touch I'll send him those.

One of the problems we have is that people think all of this is complicated and unnecessary, but it's not so complicated and when you run a site like this it becomes necessary. I guess that I've posted better than 3,000 pictures on these forums over the years, many of them several times... just imagine what server space and bandwidth that would eat up if pictures were uploaded to the site rather than sourced elsewhere.

[Tim Murray]

I agree about the sticky thread, Ray. I had a look at it today for the first time in a long while, and as you and others have said, it isn't fit for purpose. I'll certainly stop recommending people to go to it if they have photo posting queries.

[Tony Matthews]

As Ray says, all I then have to do is copy and paste the 'Forum Code' link into my TNF post, with no additions or alterations, and so far I've had 100% success.

With respect, it may be that he is unfamiliar with 'copy and paste'. If I was starting again, Ray's images wouldn't help at all.

[Ray Bell]

I've pretty much explained how to copy and paste all along the way, Tony...

But I am prepared to explain it again.

I have, by the way, assumed that the photos are uploaded already. Maybe I should explain that too?

Edited by Ray Bell, 22 May 2013 - 11:10.

[Tony Matthews]

I've pretty much explained how to copy and paste all along the way, Tony...

Well, obviously you don't have to explain it to me, Ray, but in my experience people who are familiar with a process are rarely the best at explaining it. I have no idea if tsrwright knows how to 'copy' and then to 'paste', but just telling someone to copy and paste isn't necessarily the way to help. I have resisted the urge to post my own images and instructions as this doesn't seem to have much to do with the thread, and I have had enough bollockings for going off thread in the past.

[275 GTB-4]

Well, obviously you don't have to explain it to me, Ray, but in my experience people who are familiar with a process are rarely the best at explaining it. I have no idea if tsrwright knows how to 'copy' and then to 'paste', but just telling someone to copy and paste isn't necessarily the way to help. I have resisted the urge to post my own images and instructions as this doesn't seem to have much to do with the thread, and I have had enough bollockings for going off thread in the past.

I copied and pasted the MOUNT DRUITT link below:

https://www.google.c...&...tml;350;344

[Tony Matthews]

Next week - Deleting!

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4
I copied and pasted the MOUNT DRUITT link below:

https://www.google.c...&...tml;350;344

Spare us the real estate ads, Mick...

The direct link to the Brian Darby website and this brief film clip, is:

http://aussieroadrac...om/darby256.wmv

Tony... I would really appreciate if you would stop making light of all of this. I'm trying to help Terry out here, you could well be making it look like it really is too hard for him.

[Tony Matthews]

Tony... I would really appreciate if you would stop making light of all of this. I'm trying to help Terry out here, you could well be making it look like it really is too hard for him.

I'm not making light of it, but if this is your idea of trying to help him, I can't imagine what you would come up with if you were trying to confuse him. I'm out.

[GMACKIE]

Wipe that silly grin off your face, Mick.

[ken devine]

I have been trying to post photos on the BMC thread and they wont work, the setup seems to have changed.

[Ray Bell]

What seems to have changed, Ken?

I'm having no problems posting anything here... or anywhere else, for that matter...

[Repco22]

Stop laughing! This is serious!

[GMACKIE]

It's not me, Rod........it's Mick.

[275 GTB-4]

Not me! Never! Biting my tongue here...

[tsrwright]

Once again I have to tell you...

You, not anyone else, are complicating the whole thing! You are taking no notice of any post I make explaining how simple it really is.

Forget the uploader, that's got nothing to do with it! I have never used the uploader, I simply upload from the 'My Imageshack' page.

Then you just click on the 'Forums' link and copy and paste it JUST AS IT APPEARS THERE on a fresh line in your post.

Your resizing, as I have repeatedly told you, should be done before you upload. Please, stop mucking around with this. Download Irfanview if you haven't already done so, use that to prepare your photos, then SIMPLY upload them to Imageshack as I've shown repeatedly with screen prints in the pertinent thread.

The biggest problem with that thread is that people kept on using it for testing their uploading skills, or telling us that there were other and better ways. I have no doubt that Picasa can be used, I see plenty of people using Photobucket, but I still find Imageshack REALLY SIMPLE and you should too.

I realise this post is somewhat harsh in its approach, but your continual and repeated complaints, followed by your refusal to take my advice, forces me to underline that the problem is that you are not taking the advice given.

Step 1 - download Irfanview and use that to prepare photos for posting.

Step 2 - using the regular Imageshack page, not the uploader, upload your pictures to Imageshack.

Step 3 - copy and paste the 'Forums' string, DO NOT DESCEND TO THE THUMBNAILS unless you specifically want to post a thumbnail.

My e-mail address is below, if you have any problem with that contact me directly. I will steer you through the process with whatever screen prints etc you might require. But please stop rejecting my assistance.

Once again I have to tell you ... it isn't that simple.

You just don't listen to what I am saying such as my remark above about having to select the size to get the right url for posting

Anyway, using your numbering

Step 1. I don't need to use Irfanview. I have thousands of pics in Picassa.

Step 2. I don't use Imageshack uploader anymore - it is a recognised third party app but it turns out to be very unreliable. I know how to upload. I have followed your advice to size any upload at 800 pixels wide or less. I now know that if the pic is too large TNF will simply not display and not give any error message to explain why.

Step 3. In My Images I select the pic which is then highlighted by an orange frame. In the ACTION menu I select Get codes for forums. I get a choice of 2 codes. Only the first one works. I paste it here:



As you will see that is no good. IMAGESHACK DEFAULTS TO A THUMBNAIL' See that word 'thumbnail embedded in the code in the screenshot - that need to be something else. You have to select the size from the menu at the bottom. Select 'Fullsize' and you now get this:



It may be that it's not like this for you but this is what it does for me.

I have been cutting and pasting for nearly thirty years in a wide range of complex applications on Macs and PCs and this is about the worst timewasting experience I have had. The main reason for that is poor design and functionality along with nil instructions and support.

I was going to post some more Graham Howard Collection Mt Druitt pics but the link below will have to do.

https://picasaweb.go...feat=directlink

They are from the George Reed file. Notes on the reverse refer to the previous pic. Feel free to download any here for discussion but not for any other purpose.

PS If you go to Imageshack while in TNF without opening another browser tab you will lose everything because TNF does not autosave - another reason this is such a timewaster.

Edited by tsrwright, 24 May 2013 - 15:43.

[Ray Bell]

Well, I use tabs so I might have thirty or forty pages open at one time...

The problem you are having is caused by you highlighting the picture and then going to the 'Action' menu. As I've explained above... well, here it is again...



See the 'i' on the top right of the picture? Click on that... then you get:



Your problems are now over. We've worked out what you're doing wrong and you know now how to fix the problem.

[Tony Matthews]

Wierd. Never seen that on Imageshack the way I do it...

[kayemod]

Wierd. Never seen that on Imageshack the way I do it...

Me neither, after seeing the last few posts, I'm sticking with my 'Giraffe's simple single page plain language help-sheet to posting pics on TNF', it's easy to follow, works perfectly every time as far as I can see, and doesn't attract bad tempered posts in this thread. I'm happy to share it with anyone who PMs me an e-mail address.

[bradbury west]

For the amount of stuff which I post here I find this more than satisfactory. I keep all my photographs, - invariably as large file sizes,- other than current material, on a remote drive. I prefer not to have to sign up to stuff like Imageshack
http://postimage.org...ex.php?um=flash
Roger Lund

Edited by bradbury west, 24 May 2013 - 16:59.

[GMACKIE]

Me neither, after seeing the last few posts, I'm sticking with my 'Giraffe's simple single page plain language help-sheet to posting pics on TNF', it's easy to follow, works perfectly every time as far as I can see, and doesn't attract bad tempered posts in this thread. I'm happy to share it with anyone who PMs me an e-mail address.

Worked for me....Thanks again, Rob [and Tony].

[DanTra2858]

What are the options to using Imageshack & which is the best of the options given that photos put up using Imageshack happen to fall of the Forum.

[terry mcgrath]

I to hate the complexity of the system and can't be bothered going through the rigmaroll (is that a word) to post photos
Wouldn't the solution be like most other good web sites to just upload straight from your computer to the posting?
terry

[Catalina Park]

Is it possible to just link the photos straight from Picasa?

[tsrwright]

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Me neither, after seeing the last few posts, I'm sticking with my 'Giraffe's simple single page plain language help-sheet to posting pics on TNF', it's easy to follow, works perfectly every time as far as I can see, and doesn't attract bad tempered posts in this thread. I'm happy to share it with anyone who PMs me an e-mail address.

Roger, isn't this just basically the same as Imageshack - offsite hosting?

[bradbury west]

Roger, isn't this just basically the same as Imageshack - offsite hosting?

Yes, very much so, but I could never get on with Imageshack and it is easy to use. It is also another option. I never regard it as a photo repository, as I only ever use it to host what I want to post.
Roger Lund

[Catalina Park]

The photos that I posted above are done straight from your Picasa account.
There is a trick that doesn't seem to work with Internet Explorer but does work with Firefox and Chrome that lets you copy the actual photo address and post it to the forum.

https://picasaweb.go...826967086530018

[Catalina Park]

In Firefox right click on the Picasa image you want to use.
Click "Copy Image Location" and then post that link with "img" tags on each end of the address.

Edited by Catalina Park, 25 May 2013 - 11:56.

[tsrwright]

Edited by tsrwright, 25 May 2013 - 13:06.

[tsrwright]

Reverse reads:

Over 1500
L Griffiths (15)
followed by F W Pratley

2.10.50

Edited by tsrwright, 27 May 2013 - 09:51.