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[Owen]

Unmistakably true. And I don't really reckon that Mercedes power will make Williams the force they were in the 80s and first half of the 90s. I'd say they need an exclusive, McLaren-Honda-esque manufacturer deal for that.

The same goes for Lotus, by the way: whether they stay with Renault or opt for Honda come 2016, they will be behind Red Bull respectively McLaren in the picking order.

yeh, you can't beat a works deal.

[Bleu]

Williams didn't go with Peugeot because there was a plan to build French "super-team". With Renault leaving as the engine manufacturer the only option was Peugeot. They were with Jordan at the time, I think the deal was actually longer than into 1997. But with the negotiations Jordan got the Mugen-Honda engines left out by Prost.

And as seen, the French team plan didn't go well at all: 10 points in three seasons.

Edited by Bleu, 31 May 2013 - 13:39.

[BigCHrome]

True. But Williams Renault 2 is a bit of a shadow compared to the original Williams Renault era.
Oh well. Good luck to them anyway - most F1 fans would be happy to see them do well for whatever reason.

Williams had a respectable season last year. It was never going to be anywhere near the original Williams Renault era as long as they don't have big sponsors.

Unmistakably true. And I don't really reckon that Mercedes power will make Williams the force they were in the 80s and first half of the 90s. I'd say they need an exclusive, McLaren-Honda-esque manufacturer deal for that.

The same goes for Lotus, by the way: whether they stay with Renault or opt for Honda come 2016, they will be behind Red Bull respectively McLaren in the picking order.

I dont think works deals are going to be that important, even with the new V6t engines.

[August]

Maybe badged just as Williams AMG?

I doubt. I think the AMG belongs to be with Mercedes, not with Williams.

But I got an idea, Merc could badge their works team's engines as AMG, to make the chassis name Mercedes AMG, like in the official team name.

[lustigson]

But I got an idea, Merc could badge their works team's engines as AMG, to make the chassis name Mercedes AMG, like in the official team name.

That's quite a good idea, indeed: Mercedes–AMG

And the customer teams would then simply be McLaren–Mercedes (2014 only), Force India–Mercedes and now Williams–Mercedes.

[Clatter]

Williams had a respectable season last year. It was never going to be anywhere near the original Williams Renault era as long as they don't have big sponsors.



I dont think works deals are going to be that important, even with the new V6t engines.

Big sponsors don't guarantee a good car. They have the funds to design and build a car, you have to look to those do the designing for the poor results.