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Very excited to see something that got the power to weight ratio to match the 208 T16. And a seasoned driver.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 16:54
The Animal has resurrected. Video in the article.
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Very excited to see something that got the power to weight ratio to match the 208 T16. And a seasoned driver.
Posted 06 June 2013 - 18:38
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 21:46
Internet got no boundaries. Its both scary and beautiful
I really do enjoy this type of unlimited racing. Lets call it manly enough to be worth watching unlike most series. Having enough power to actually challenge the tires out of the corners is allways good fun to watch.
One of my favorite builds. Silver state classic winner and the fastest street car for a short period. I only wish he did more on the aero side, its so brute force now.
Romain Dumas is a contender too this year if he gets a decent turbo engine for hes car.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 17:57
Shame all these dinasaurs will be beaten by a simple battery powered car !!!
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I too regret the out and out race cars on Pikes Peak. The footage I have seen over the years has had some wild and wonderfull one offs. Plus things like Sprintcars and midgets.Hi all, I'm no PP expert but what is the reason for the change to all tarmac? Seeing LM type cars do Pikes Peak just doesn't seem right. Surely the challenge used to be the dual surface and how your car or tyres were setup to be better on one or the other.
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Posted 09 June 2013 - 07:09
I reckon an electric car will make the top five this year.
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Posted 10 June 2013 - 17:56
Hi all, I'm no PP expert but what is the reason for the change to all tarmac?
Posted 10 June 2013 - 18:00
Now it is just another road race venue, ......
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I think many will disagree with you. A very daunting venue, and as a hillclimb goes very long. But all bitumen is still not the same as multiple surfaces. That was unique. Though progress, and it is progress for the road itself has taken away some of the 'difference' for the eventHardly. PP will never be just another anything. It was unique when dirt, and is still unique, though different, now it is fully paved. Slating it as just another road race venue shows a distinct lack of knowledge of the event.
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Posted 12 June 2013 - 16:31
There will not be any official times posted until practice week starts. The tests, while officially sanctioned, are "private" and the times only posted on the timing trailer.
Posted 12 June 2013 - 16:38
I think many will disagree with you. A very daunting venue, and as a hillclimb goes very long. But all bitumen is still not the same as multiple surfaces. That was unique. Though progress, and it is progress for the road itself has taken away some of the 'difference' for the event
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Wonderful sound! Mind you, electric would sound better...Lovefab got a Scary looking car coming. Impressive for a small crew. Oh and that engine sounds so right.
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Can you believe how much quicker Seb is than everyone else!
Posted 18 June 2013 - 01:38
Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:55
Could they use a fan car?
Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:19
As Woozy has suggested a couple of times now - if the PP hillclimb is "Formula Libre" and a fan car is legal - surely it would be best?
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Posted 18 June 2013 - 20:33
Oddly I suppose to most people's way of thinking, a formula libre offers the best hope of a budget limited team getting one over on a factory effort. Restrictive tech regs pretty much guarantee the winning edge will be bought with ruinously expensive endless detail development rather than innovation or new thinking which is potentially free. The bigger the entrants, the more risk averse and the more they fear having their enormous budgets cancelled out by someone with a better idea.
Stringent tech regs aren't really in place to encourage competitive parity; they are there to protect the investments of those with deep pockets and insecurity about their own abilities.
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That's so awesome. Wish I could have made it to watch this year. Best of luck!The above picture really illustrates one of the aspects I love about Pikes Peak. A total amateur effort gets to run on the same race course under (mostly) the same conditions, on the same day as the very best in the world. Something certainly not possible at Monaco, Indy or the Daytona 500.
While the Mini may have less than 1/4 the HP of the Peugot, and is running on a budget likely about 1/100th that of the factory effort, the level of achievement of both teams should they see the checkered flag on race day is likely to be something that the crew and drivers remember for the rest of their lives.
Having our race car pictured with Loeb and the Peugot may just be one of the highlights of the racing life of Michele the Mini.
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Big it is. But i am disappointed that they did not implement exhaust blown diffuser tech. The engine is after all right there and they have the space to do it. I mean.. come on.. even the front motor 405 T16 kinda has it.
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I can't help but feel kind of amazed that a 911 GT3-R set a faster time than all of those unlimited cars, some of which have to be putting out double or more power, have big honking wings and who knows what else. It's about .02 sec off the overall record.
The Palatov won its class last year with a time 18sec off the 911 GT3-R, despite carrying only ~3.7 lb/hp vs. 5.3 lb/hp for the Porsche. Is the difference all chassis setup? Having a world class driver in Romain Dumas, who set the time?
How is it possible that the unlimited class specials are not stomping all over the 911? I know it's only been one year with a fully paved course which might affect the balance of performance.
Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:07
And then the 911 was beaten by a HyundaiI can't help but feel kind of amazed that a 911 GT3-R set a faster time than all of those unlimited cars, some of which have to be putting out double or more power, have big honking wings and who knows what else. It's about .02 sec off the overall record.
The Palatov won its class last year with a time 18sec off the 911 GT3-R, despite carrying only ~3.7 lb/hp vs. 5.3 lb/hp for the Porsche. Is the difference all chassis setup? Having a world class driver in Romain Dumas, who set the time?
How is it possible that the unlimited class specials are not stomping all over the 911? I know it's only been one year with a fully paved course which might affect the balance of performance.
Posted 20 June 2013 - 14:22
Show us.I think the Pug's diffuser is actually pretty disappointing, much like the whole aero package. Formula Student cars are more impressive aerodynamically than this.
Kinda is the word you should not have skipped. And having off throttle blowing might be difficult but EDB can be done without. The Pat Doran RS200 allready got it..And the T16 doesn't have an exhaust blown diffuser,
I think this highlights the horrendous standard of engineering on most of the unlimited cars. Yes, they have way more power, but they haven't a clue when it comes to the chassis side, which is probably more important on a hill climb. The Porsche is a properly sorted racing car, and I'd imagine a professional driver brings a huge chunk of laptime too. Same with the Peogeot i feel; that car is nothing special at all, it's just bloody well sorted, puts it's power down, and has arguably the best driver in the world at the wheel. If Peugeot wanted to set an unbeatable record, they would have given it 1500hp and a proper aero package.
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Posted 20 June 2013 - 16:11
Show us.
How can you call this diffuser small?
Edited by JimboJones, 20 June 2013 - 16:13.
Posted 20 June 2013 - 16:32
Never called it small... disappointing. Plenty of proper wing packages at FSAE Michigan earlier this year. Few teams extend the diffuser to the maximum space of the regs, and skirts are not allowed, but I still think the thought put into generating downforce demonstrates a much better effort. The fact Peugeot just bolted on an LMP1 wing they had lying around, rather than a bespoke design says it all...
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