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Which circuit would you bring back?

  1. Kyalami (14 votes [3.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.27%

  2. Donnington (16 votes [3.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.74%

  3. Imola (71 votes [16.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.59%

  4. Magny Cours (23 votes [5.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.37%

  5. Estoril (14 votes [3.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.27%

  6. Adelaide (32 votes [7.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.48%

  7. Aida (1 votes [0.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.23%

  8. Jerez (1 votes [0.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.23%

  9. Buenos Aires (5 votes [1.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.17%

  10. Hockenheim (old) (103 votes [24.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.07%

  11. A1 Ring (70 votes [16.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.36%

  12. Indianapolis (12 votes [2.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.80%

  13. Istanbul Park (57 votes [13.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.32%

  14. Fuji (8 votes [1.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.87%

  15. Valencia (1 votes [0.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.23%

Which circuit would you get rid of?

  1. Albert Park (5 votes [1.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.17%

  2. Sepang (2 votes [0.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.47%

  3. Shanghai (7 votes [1.64%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.64%

  4. Sakhir (60 votes [14.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.02%

  5. Catalunya (49 votes [11.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.45%

  6. Monaco (26 votes [6.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.07%

  7. Montreal (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Silverstone (6 votes [1.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.40%

  9. Nurburgring (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Hockenheim (new) (39 votes [9.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.11%

  11. Hungaroring (25 votes [5.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.84%

  12. Spa (2 votes [0.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.47%

  13. Monza (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  14. Singapore (16 votes [3.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.74%

  15. Suzuka (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  16. Yeongam (95 votes [22.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.20%

  17. Budh (33 votes [7.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.71%

  18. Abu Dhabi (61 votes [14.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.25%

  19. COTA (2 votes [0.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.47%

  20. Interlagos (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#51 BoschKurve

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 18:13

Istanbul in and Korea out for me.

Never understood the appeal of Imola, does zilch for me but each to his own!


I can't speak for anyone else, but my attraction to Imola (at least the version used from 1980-1994) was that it was a high speed circuit. There are too many circuits presently that all share similar characteristics with layout as Tilke favors the long straight into a very slow 90 degree corner for the most part. Imola had a lot more fast corners. What I liked was that once you pulled out onto the start/finish straight, it was a flat-out run all the way to Tossa. Imola also had a fantastic atmosphere to it. I miss a lot of the high speed circuits personally (Imola, Hockenheim) and am glad at least Monza and Spa are still on the calendar. I wasn't much of a fan of the 1995-2006 Imola as they look away the main overtaking section, but from what I have seen of sportscars on the renovated circuit, it looks to have restored part of the original idea of Imola.

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#52 DinocoBlue

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 18:13

Red Bull Ring in... Sakhir out.

#53 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 18:27

Back Old Hockenheim. Goodbye Singapore.

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#54 Atreiu

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 18:36

Istanbul in and Korea out for me.

Never understood the appeal of Imola, does zilch for me but each to his own!



Indeed. Post 1994 Imola was just inadequate for F1.
If the tifosi could pack GPs twice a year, I'd send them to Mugello before Imola, even after the changes.

#55 chdphd

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 19:11

Turkey in, Singapore out.

#56 olliek88

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 19:42

Indeed. Post 1994 Imola was just inadequate for F1.
If the tifosi could pack GPs twice a year, I'd send them to Mugello before Imola, even after the changes.


Agreed. Now Mugello does look like a fast flowing circuit with little room for errors. Plenty of elevation changes too, always makes things more interesting!



#57 MikeV1987

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 20:07

Mugello would have issues with overtaking just like Catalunya does.

Istanbul Park in, Korea out.

Edited by MikeV1987, 31 May 2013 - 20:09.


#58 garoidb

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 20:44

A1 Ring...the scenery was so mesmerizing.....


Why not go one better and have the old Österreichring (outside the 20 years, but indulge me).


#59 Fastcake

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 21:03

How can you have Old Hockenheim back when the circuit doesn't exist anymore? M

I quite like Estoril, or for a newer one Istanbul Park. Get rid of Yeongham, though that's apparently going once the contract runs out anyway. Second choices must be Abu Dhabi or India. Both have seen bland and poor races on uninspiring circuits.

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#60 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 23:53

How can you have Old Hockenheim back when the circuit doesn't exist anymore? M

I quite like Estoril, or for a newer one Istanbul Park. Get rid of Yeongham, though that's apparently going once the contract runs out anyway. Second choices must be Abu Dhabi or India. Both have seen bland and poor races on uninspiring circuits.

Really is that part of the debate? Nothing a dozer and a road building crew could not fix in a few weeks.

As for Adelaide, ok when it was dry, abysmal when it rained as the drainage was all wrong. And yes I have raced that track when wet!
The Pirelli, intermediate tyre they use these days would red flag the race with a light shower,, remember spin spin spin!

#61 Richard T

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 00:05

The scenery at A1 ring was amazing and would produce fab racing.

And kick out bloody rain-no spectators-dull-grey Yeongam track!

Edit: add "not finished" to Yeongam :down:

Edited by Richard T, 01 June 2013 - 00:06.


#62 Ickx

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:17

Imola. It might not have produced the best races but I've always liked the track. On the other hand there should be a French GP but I don't care much for Magny Cours.

#63 ocp

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:20

I choosed Istanbul and Catalunya without too much thought.

But a few people mentioned A1 and i remember the track and I remember that i didn't hate it.
So looked for an onboard lap:

It looks to me like a drivers track where you you need good judgement, basicly if you get greedy you will pay, and we all remember cars flying of the last corner. :)

Thinking about that today they would put asphalt there and it wouldn't be so tense... Not for us and not for the drivers.

Oh, T1 and T2 now without sand traps...

Edited by ocp, 01 June 2013 - 07:26.


#64 Lazy

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:21

Donnington in for the Craner Curves.

Bahrain out because they clearly don't want F1 there.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:31




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#66 Kristian

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:43

I voted the A1-Ring back in - Old Hockenheim would be lovely, but totally unrealistic. The A1 Ring was a short, fast circuit and always produced fantastic GPs. And the scenery was stunning - I just wish we could see F1 cars racing there on a sunny day in HD! Though the looks were slightly ruined when they asphalted all the runoffs in 2003.

Get rid of India, its just pointless. Abu Dhabi would get my boot too as its equally uninspiring, but at least it looks pretty at sunset.

#67 The Kanisteri

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 07:44

I have always liked Magny Cours. A1 was nice too.

Monaco should go. It's terrible and unsuitable track for F1 cars and it is with F1 only because traditions and rich people athmosphere.

Edited by The Kanisteri, 01 June 2013 - 07:45.


#68 Tosh

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:13

If all of them come back that will be sweet. :D Bye bye Korea, India, Abu Dhabi, Sakhir, Singapore, Shanghai. Terrible circuits. There are lots of good old ones that can replace them.

#69 Jamiednm

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:29

Korea out, Turkey in.

I'm surprised by the many negative comments for Shanghai, I think its a good circuit.

#70 lustigson

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 08:56

Realistically speaking, I would sooner expect Istanbul back than any of the others — heck, some tracks don't even exist anymore ;) — and would like to see the back of Abu Dhabi.

#71 August

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:11

Old Hockenheim in: F1 needs more variety in circuits.

Abu Dhabi out: The 2nd worst F1 circuit ever after Valencia.

Btw, many people seem to hate Korea even though the track is great, the area just looks terrible.

Edited by August, 01 June 2013 - 09:12.


#72 P123

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:39

Istanbul in and Korea out for me.

Never understood the appeal of Imola, does zilch for me but each to his own!


The cars did look great at Imola though- all the heavy kerb hopping and quick changes of direction.

A1 Ring in and Sakhir out would be my choice. The one I don't understand the level of appeal for is the old Hockenheim. Maybe because it was different? But I don't remember a particularly exciting race there. You would think with the long straights it would be slip streaming heaven, but it never was.

#73 ArkZ

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:45

I truly don't understand people who want to get rid of Silverstone when tracks like in Korea, India, Abu Dhabi etc. are around. :confused:
EDIT: Even Spa has a vote!.

Edited by ArkZ, 01 June 2013 - 09:49.


#74 Fastcake

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 09:52

Really is that part of the debate? Nothing a dozer and a road building crew could not fix in a few weeks.


I do hate to spoil the fun, but as far as I'm aware the other circuits all still exist and could still hold a race, if the willpower and finances is there. Old Hockenheim is gone for good, and they're not going to rebuild it after spending so much on the new shorter track.

#75 W154

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:06

I truly don't understand people who want to get rid of Silverstone when tracks like in Korea, India, Abu Dhabi etc. are around. :confused:
EDIT: Even Spa has a vote!.

Of course we want to get rid of the present Silverstone and Spa. Compared to the original circuits they are a joke. In their original configurations they were both 150mph average speed circuits, as was Monza. And that was in the days of 400HP 3 litre engine cars. I don't care what circuits people want to bring back....as long as they don't come back with those bloody chicanes :mad:

#76 PaulTodd

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:13

Looking at this map I've suddenly realised how much I miss this track...


I miss this track so so much, But I voted for the old Hockenheim. As time goes on F1 loses what made it special.

#77 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 10:17

I can only assume whoever clicked Spa meant to click Hungaroring and missed.

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:34

Trouble with modern F1 is that the tracks have developed to suit the cars when really the cars should have been developed to suit the tracks.
Get rid of all Tike circuits, bring back Imola, old Spa, Montjuic, Zandvoort, etc.


#79 tifosi

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:51

Imola - the real one, not the neutered version.

Drop Barcelona.

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#80 noikeee

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 11:58

Catalunya isn't actually a bad circuit, it flows properly, there's corners like Campsa and T3 which are quality. The problem is it tends to come up with shit races because passing is difficult and everyone has 500000000kms of experience testing and racing in it, but I'd rather have a track like that in the calendar than featureless places with no redeeming features whatsoever like Abu Dhabi (yes I really do hate that one).

The final chicane ruined Catalunya a bit, I do have to admit... those last two corners were great.

Edited by noikeee, 01 June 2013 - 11:59.


#81 Les

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:09

I can only assume whoever clicked Spa meant to click Hungaroring and missed.


That was Bernie...

#82 Alx09

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 12:49

Istanbul & old Hockenheim back.

#83 Adelaide

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 13:08

I want Adelaide back for purely selfish reasons - I live there. Maybe we could share with Melbourne?

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 15:55

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#85 chrisblades85

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 16:12

Good poll this.

Difficult to choose one of each though to be fair. There's many tracks I'd love to have back. And more I'd love to get rid of.

#86 Fastcake

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 19:09

Trouble with modern F1 is that the tracks have developed to suit the cars when really the cars should have been developed to suit the tracks.
Get rid of all Tike circuits, bring back Imola, old Spa, Montjuic, Zandvoort, etc.


That would of meant freezing development at some point in the seventies. Today's cars are simply far too fast for many of the old circuits. You either have the choice of creating new circuits or modifying existing ones and allowing the cars to get faster, or having much slower cars just to keep the old circuits on the calendar. The old tracks were after all designed with the cars of the eras in mind - and in an era where safety was nothing more than an afterthought. People complain about chicanes at Monza, but without them it's too fast.

#87 Afterburner

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:10

People complain about chicanes at Monza, but without them it's too fast.

I can't believe what I'm reading--sorry. 'Fast' is what motor racing is all about: you should have the world's fastest vehicles and the drivers who dare to race them--those who are afraid to do so can sit on the sidelines. For additional information, see 'MotoGP'. :p

#88 SR388

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:17

Indy. Back in. COTA out.

#89 P123

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:29

I can only assume whoever clicked Spa meant to click Hungaroring and missed.


Maybe they'd like to see it back in it's unneutered form? All the acres of new tarmac run-off have made previously challenging corners such as Pouhon completely risk free. And Eau Rouge is now a flat out sweep in modern F1 cars. It's not quite the challenge it once was- maybe in the wet it is, but then again modern F1 is risk averse to running in wet conditions.

Edited by P123, 01 June 2013 - 22:31.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:31

The final chicane ruined Catalunya a bit, I do have to admit... those last two corners were great.


Yep, they Magny-Cours'd it. Another track that's final sector was destroyed in a failed attempt to create overtaking.

#91 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:38

Maybe they'd like to see it back in it's unneutered form? All the acres of new tarmac run-off have made previously challenging corners such as Pouhon completely risk free. And Eau Rouge is now a flat out sweep in modern F1 cars. It's not quite the challenge it once was- maybe in the wet it is, but then again modern F1 is risk averse to running in wet conditions.


Well the circuit itself hasn't changed since 1983 apart from the Bus Stop-La Source section. But what I really can't fathom is that anyone would actually consider it the worst circuit on the calendar and worthy of being dropped.

#92 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:42

Bring back Indianapolis. Though the infield track wasn't that great, nor were the races, it was nice to see the F1 cars driving on part of the oval, looked cool. And with DRS the overtaking would be great towards turn 1.

Edited by DutchQuicksilver, 01 June 2013 - 22:43.


#93 SR388

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:49

Bring back Indianapolis. Though the infield track wasn't that great, nor were the races, it was nice to see the F1 cars driving on part of the oval, looked cool.



:up:


Also Indy is close for a lot of cities. The following are within 6 hours: Chicago, Detroit, Cincinnati, Nashville, Knoxville, Memphis, Saint Louis, and Pittsburgh.

Austin is only really convenient for people in Texas. Hell it is over 8 hours to get from Amarillo TX to Austin.

#94 P123

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:53

Well the circuit itself hasn't changed since 1983 apart from the Bus Stop-La Source section. But what I really can't fathom is that anyone would actually consider it the worst circuit on the calendar and worthy of being dropped.


Agreed, plenty of stinkers on the list.

#95 RaikkonenZn

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 22:59

Kyalami in - I live in South Africa so yeah otherwise Imola

Yeongam out - thoroughly boring race!

#96 911

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Posted 01 June 2013 - 23:54

I picked Estoril (w/o the chicanes that were added). I think there should have been a "Select Any" option for the tracks that need to go.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 00:36

Bring back: A1 Ring
Get rid of: Catalunya

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#98 George Costanza

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:12

I've never really quite understood the like/love for Magny Cours. It's not a bad track relative to some of what we have currently on the calendar. Would I take it over Yeongam? Sure. But is it the best circuit F1 could race on in France? Absolutely not. Paul Ricard was always a much better choice for the French GP. Nothing like Le Castellet in July with the bright blue skies.



I agree.

Le Mans for F1 would be quite a sight, but that's not too safe.

#99 PorcupineTroy

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:31

A1 Ring swaps in for Abu Dhabi. Hopefully the mountains don't have to change colour during the race!

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#100 exmayol

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:06

A1 ring in, Abu Dhabi out.