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#1 Clatter

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 18:54

Newey crashes on formation lap in Lamborghini race?

Oops.
No wonder Mac were scared to let him race.

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#2 Longtimefan

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:14

Oh dear! haha, that's almost as embarrassing as DC hitting the Adelaide Pitlane wall. :D


#3 Cavani

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:27

he was taking woodcote flat when he tried the rb6 in silverstone for the first time :D , horner was really nervous that newey is out in an F1 car here is the video


#4 pRy

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:30

Well let's be honest, anyone here could take Woodcote flat in a Redbull.;)

#5 Bill Becketts

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:31

As a Driver he does make a great Designer :drunk:



#6 Skinnyguy

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:33

Well let's be honest, anyone here could take Woodcote flat in a Redbull.;)


Any single seater.

It doesn´t take skill, it takes guts. You just don´t know how much performance is under you, and even if you know you´re just not used to use it.

#7 PayasYouRace

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:47

Actually, how many other technical directors in today's F1 would be anywhere near that competent behind the wheel?

Newey crashes on formation lap in Lamborghini race?

Oops.
No wonder Mac were scared to let him race.


Didn't stop them putting Coulthard in the car (Monza '95) :p

Edited by PayasYouRace, 03 June 2013 - 19:54.


#8 olliek88

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:51

Ha, i bet he wished the ground could of swallowed him up! Cold tyres, lots of power and an inexperienced gentleman driver clearly didn't mix well.

He's far from the only one though!



I remember Alonso so nearly binning it on the formation lap at the Spainish GP in 08 or 09 i think too.

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 19:57

Oh dear! haha, that's almost as embarrassing as DC hitting the Adelaide Pitlane wall. :D


and in an formation lap 1995 in Monza :rotfl:

#10 Afterburner

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:02

Ha, i bet he wished the ground could of swallowed him up! Cold tyres, lots of power and an inexperienced gentleman driver clearly didn't mix well.

Inexperienced? Not exactly: he finished 4th in the GT2 class in the 2007 24 Hours of Le Mans... driving none other than a Ferrari. :smoking:

#11 Skinnyguy

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:13

and in an formation lap 1995 in Monza :rotfl:


JPM spun in the formation lap of Oz 2006. Alonso nearly crashes his car in the 2008 Spanish GP formation lap. Räikkönen spun his car in the formation lap of the 2004 Malaysian GP.

It can happen to anyone.

#12 Sakae

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:16

Sebastian's job is safe for a while.

#13 joshb

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:39

Maybe those saying even Newey would win in the RB6/7/8/9 were wrong after all!

#14 7MGTEsup

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:40

That Layton House is so much easier on the eye than the Redbull.

#15 Cavani

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:46

Well let's be honest, anyone here could take Woodcote flat in a Redbull.;)


I seriously doubt that , its not easy as it seems

#16 Nemo1965

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:51

I seriously doubt that , its not easy as it seems


I have a question. Isn't it true that Newey received a Red Bull F1-car as a trophy to keep? My question is: can he actually drive it or would he need a whole team of F1 mechanics to start the thing? Or did Red Bull adapt the car for him with a in built starter etc?



#17 HaydenFan

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 20:59

Still did pretty good in the race though. 8th of 20 cars. Not sure how much time he spent behind the wheel though, teaming with Autosprint editor Alberto Sabbatini.

#18 TimRTC

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:03

Still did pretty good in the race though. 8th of 20 cars. Not sure how much time he spent behind the wheel though, teaming with Autosprint editor Alberto Sabbatini.


For clarification there were two races one each on Sat and Sun. It was before the latter race that this occured. Newey continued but managed to dump oil a long way around the circuit after the crash.

#19 Clatter

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:07

I have a question. Isn't it true that Newey received a Red Bull F1-car as a trophy to keep? My question is: can he actually drive it or would he need a whole team of F1 mechanics to start the thing? Or did Red Bull adapt the car for him with a in built starter etc?


It would be minus the drive train, so would need to be adapted to take another unit.

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#20 HaydenFan

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:13

For clarification there were two races one each on Sat and Sun. It was before the latter race that this occured. Newey continued but managed to dump oil a long way around the circuit after the crash.


Meant to say 8th in race 1, but still a solid weekend for two amateurs. Especially for cars which are just as quick as Porsche Supercup cars around Silverstone.

#21 olliek88

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:23

Inexperienced? Not exactly: he finished 4th in the GT2 class in the 2007 24 Hours of Le Mans... driving none other than a Ferrari. :smoking:


Before this weekend he'd entered 6 races in his entire career. I would say that he was pretty inexperienced.

Edited by olliek88, 03 June 2013 - 21:25.


#22 Clatter

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:26

Before this weekend he'd entered 6 races in his entire career. I would say that he was pretty inexperienced.


Pretty sure he has entered more than 6 races.


#23 mnmracer

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 21:35

Lamborghini racers: "we're racing crash kid Vettel!"

#24 Jackmancer

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:20

haha top comment on youtube:
It's not crashing, it's improving aerodynamics.

#25 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:34

Before this weekend he'd entered 6 races in his entire career. I would say that he was pretty inexperienced.

Not sure where you have plucked that informationfrom but I doubt it is true.
I assume Newey qualified for his race licence in the UK, in which case i think he would need to have obtained 6 signatures on his National B race licence to upgrade to a National A licence and then between 3 and 6 signatures (depending on the race grade) on the A licence before he could apply for an International licence which he would have needed to enter LeMans.

#26 chrisblades85

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:47

Either way, he does seem to hit things a lot. Back to the drawing board.....

#27 JRizzle86

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:03

Any single seater.

It doesn´t take skill, it takes guts. You just don´t know how much performance is under you, and even if you know you´re just not used to use it.


It takes guts to go into the corner flat out, it takes skill to come out of the corner facing the same direction and not in the tyre wall.

#28 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:29

JPM spun in the formation lap of Oz 2006. Alonso nearly crashes his car in the 2008 Spanish GP formation lap. Räikkönen spun his car in the formation lap of the 2004 Malaysian GP.

It can happen to anyone.

Including MS, who spun the Ferrari in the Silverstone pit road exit during a BGP free practice session in the early 2000's, but as there where no TV cameras or press around at the time it it never got publicised.

#29 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 08:33

Any single seater.

It doesn´t take skill, it takes guts. You just don´t know how much performance is under you, and even if you know you´re just not used to use it.

I seem to recall Jody Scheckter disproved that quite comprehensivly, and judging by the marks on the old pit wall he was not the only one over thye years :)

#30 PayasYouRace

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:37

I seem to recall Jody Scheckter disproved that quite comprehensivly, and judging by the marks on the old pit wall he was not the only one over thye years :)


Woodcote back then was a very different corner. It was approached at top speed at the end of along straight as was 90 degrees of hanging on for dear life. Since the complex was put in Woodcote has been an easy flat acceleration zone for just about any car.

#31 noikeee

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:01

Didn't the guy right here in my avatar, for that very team (that will be Prost in a Ferrari for future reference if I change my avatar), spun and retired in a formation lap once, I think it was Imola in the wet?

#32 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:23

Woodcote back then was a very different corner. It was approached at top speed at the end of along straight as was 90 degrees of hanging on for dear life. Since the complex was put in Woodcote has been an easy flat acceleration zone for just about any car.

Still see tyre marks ending up against the inside wall, so some people still manage to' run out of talent'.

#33 Cavani

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 11:40

want to see those saying woodcote is an easy flat try it :D

#34 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 13:51

It should be flat (in the dry) in any kind of proper race car. Maybe some sort of production saloon on really bad tires(street tires?) might struggle, but it's a non-corner in the dry.

#35 JaredS

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 14:17

Leaving comment on the accident itself, how great is it that a engineer is actively racing out there. What better way to get a real world understanding of the car dynamics to help support better design. I'm not saying that other engineers would be a Newey simply by racing, or that Newey would not be the force that he is if it wasn't for racing. Just that I believe there surely is some positive influence in his designs due to his racing and feeling the physics rather than only theorising it.

#36 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 14:24

I dunno. Something about the way Adrian Newey drives/races makes me think he doesn't learn much. If he wasn't ADRIAN NEWEY you'd look at his career and wonder when he's going to start driving with his head.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 15:03

Doesn't get much worse than this.



#38 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 15:08

I dunno. Something about the way Adrian Newey drives/races makes me think he doesn't learn much. If he wasn't ADRIAN NEWEY you'd look at his career and wonder when he's going to start driving with his head.

I could suggest quite a few names im motor sport who would quite easily fit that bill, but I guess as it's his money he is spending it is up to him how he spends it.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 16:11

“It’s the first time I have raced since September last year,” said Newey after Saturday’s race. “I had a good battle to start with and then I had a spin – I thought I had done it myself, but I later discovered there was damage to the rear of the car, so I might have had a tap.”


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#40 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 16:19

So, he spun out on a non racing lap but he thinks it might be damage from an incident he doesn't remember.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 16:26

Doesn't get much worse than this.


I remember this as I was at that race. If I remember it was very cold that weekend and something like 12 cars actually finished.

#42 olliek88

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 16:58

Pretty sure he has entered more than 6 races.



Not sure where you have plucked that informationfrom but I doubt it is true.
I assume Newey qualified for his race licence in the UK, in which case i think he would need to have obtained 6 signatures on his National B race licence to upgrade to a National A licence and then between 3 and 6 signatures (depending on the race grade) on the A licence before he could apply for an International licence which he would have needed to enter LeMans.


http://www.driverdb....s/adrian-newey/



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 17:29

http://www.driverdb....s/adrian-newey/

Not sure how accurate that database is - for 2010 for example, it shows 3 races in the Ginetta G50 series at Snetterton, but ignores completely the races he ran at the Goodwood Revival that year in a Ford GT-40 and E type Jaguar.

Just shows you shouldn't believe everything you read on the web :rolleyes:

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 17:39

Is the Goodwood revival a proper, bona fide race meeting though? I always thought of it as more of a exhibition/festival for classic cars & bikes.

#45 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 17:44

No and that's why it doesn't appear in that database. But he's got some driving/crashing experience.

#46 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 17:56

Is the Goodwood revival a proper, bona fide race meeting though? I always thought of it as more of a exhibition/festival for classic cars & bikes.

I think you are confusing it with the Goodwood Festival of Speed.
The Goodwood Revival is a proper race meeting I believe it has an International Race permit. OK it is not F1 but that is not the only form of racing that exists, even if some round here might like to believe it is.

I'm a bit surprised Ross regards it as not being a race meeting - thought he made a living from motor racing.

Having watched TV footage of the Revival ovetr the years it seems to me that the drivers in some of the races are pushing much harder than those in F1 at the present. I admit that in Newey's case, somewhat harder than his talent allows.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 17:58

http://www.driverdb....s/adrian-newey/


Had no idea he had actually raced Le Mans!!

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 18:01

I'm not confusing the two, even if you were to count his appearances at the revival as a proper outing i think my original point of Newey being an inexperienced racing driver still stands.

Edited by olliek88, 04 June 2013 - 18:02.


#49 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 18:04

I'm a bit surprised Ross regards it as not being a race meeting - thought he made a living from motor racing.


Goodwood? No. Its not even part of a historic championship is it?

#50 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 18:22

Goodwood? No. Its not even part of a historic championship is it?

Surprising attitude for a Motor Racing Consultant - Historic Racing is quite a large (and growing) part of the UK racing scene and most of these guys have more money than your average club driver and even your aspiring F1 drivers. Still I guess you know your target market.