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#51 olliek88

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 18:28

Er, you appear to be mistaking Ross saying the Revival isn't really a genuine race meeting with Ross slating the whole historic scene, somehow.



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#52 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 18:34

Historic Racing is in a grey area really. If someone did that for a while, was stupidly quick, got some experience, tried to move into the pro ranks, was impressive, etc; good on them. But it's like Ferrari Challenge or even this Lambo series. You're not really looking at it as a series that leads on to something else. Yeah people do come out of those kinds of things and go GT racing, but you'd sooner expect to see someone racing Clios end up in a touring car, you know? It is driving race cars as a hobby. Which is fine. Racing for pleasure in a lot of ways is better than racing pro, especially if you already made your money. I'd totally dig driving one of those old cars if I could mentally get past how dangerous they are.

But it's like Skip Barber or something(which I did). It's a self contained little unit. Your 'career' doesn't really start until you move out of it. But if you do promote on, you'd consider it part of your training.

#53 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 20:04

Historic Racing is in a grey area really. If someone did that for a while, was stupidly quick, got some experience, tried to move into the pro ranks, was impressive, etc; good on them. But it's like Ferrari Challenge or even this Lambo series. You're not really looking at it as a series that leads on to something else. Yeah people do come out of those kinds of things and go GT racing, but you'd sooner expect to see someone racing Clios end up in a touring car, you know? It is driving race cars as a hobby. Which is fine. Racing for pleasure in a lot of ways is better than racing pro, especially if you already made your money. I'd totally dig driving one of those old cars if I could mentally get past how dangerous they are.

But it's like Skip Barber or something(which I did). It's a self contained little unit. Your 'career' doesn't really start until you move out of it. But if you do promote on, you'd consider it part of your training.

How about Andy Wallace?

#54 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 20:19

What about him? Does he/did he do historic racing? I think his Le Mans career is what made his name...

#55 Rocky2

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 20:42

Didn't the guy right here in my avatar, for that very team (that will be Prost in a Ferrari for future reference if I change my avatar), spun and retired in a formation lap once, I think it was Imola in the wet?


Right, it was 1991 Gran Premio di San Marino, when Alain would have started from 3rd place on the grid.

#56 Skinnyguy

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 20:46

So, he spun out on a non racing lap but he thinks it might be damage from an incident he doesn't remember.


:lol:

He´s already a grown up racing driver.

#57 ExFlagMan

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 21:20

What about him? Does he/did he do historic racing? I think his Le Mans career is what made his name...

I believe he started off in Historic Formula Ford as that was all he could afford. at the time.

#58 F1ultimate

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:40

So, he spun out on a non racing lap but he thinks it might be damage from an incident he doesn't remember.


I'm surprised he didn't blame an invisible Grosjean for ramming into him. :lol:

#59 ExFlagMan

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 11:04

I'm surprised he didn't blame an invisible Grosjean for ramming into him. :lol:

That one has probably not yet made into the 'Nigel Mansell Bumper Book of Racing Excuses' he was given for Christmas.

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#60 E.B.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:10

Not sure how accurate that database is


It's a woefully incomplete database, hence probably does far more harm than good - just check out some of the all time greats and see how many races are missed.



#61 noikeee

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:32

Given the primary scope of that website is current drivers, particularly the spectacularly extensive information they have about the junior feeder series over the last decade, that's not wildly surprising. It's a great source of information actually.

#62 E.B.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:47

In that case good, I am glad it has some uses - but maybe it should leave off statistics like rankings by total wins and % of races won until it has enough races included to make such stats even remotely accurate.


#63 JaredS

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 13:23

I dunno. Something about the way Adrian Newey drives/races makes me think he doesn't learn much. If he wasn't ADRIAN NEWEY you'd look at his career and wonder when he's going to start driving with his head.


What? Is this tongue in cheek? Sorry it's so bad I simply can't tell. But if serious, then it makes even less sense because driving is not his career, he just does it for fun. Nothing more than a serious hobby. I was only speculating that it may assist in his day job of designing F1 cars.

#64 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 13:42

And I'm saying I don't think it does *shrug*.

I doubt there's anything on a Lamborghini Cup car that translates to a super high downforce car, and he doesn't seem to drive in a cerebral way. Though maybe he'll think "oh, I should make cars more driver friendly, they are are easy to crash".

#65 DampMongoose

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 14:51

I was there on Sunday but had no idea Adrian Newey was racing... although I put that down to Silverstone not having any programs available (not for the first time either), which I will add to the list of having no toilets, grandstands or food and drink outlets within a mile of the best spectator spots! Oddly I was also at Snetterton when he stacked the Ginetta, I may have to let him know where I'm going in future...

#66 ExFlagMan

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 14:54

And I'm saying I don't think it does *shrug*.

I doubt there's anything on a Lamborghini Cup car that translates to a super high downforce car, and he doesn't seem to drive in a cerebral way. Though maybe he'll think "oh, I should make cars more driver friendly, they are are easy to crash"

Though alledgedly there where some things on his E type that where derived from his Red Bull work - though of course that is just a rumour :)