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#1 D.M.N.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:33

http://www1.skysport...1-race-calendar

- 21 races
- Bahrain to begin on March 2nd, would be earliest start to a season since 1992
- Russia and New Jersey to be added (as expected)



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#2 FastnLoud

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:36

I can see about 10 engines blowing up

#3 Massa_f1

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:36

http://www1.skysport...1-race-calendar

- 21 races
- Bahrain to begin on March 2nd, would be earliest start to a season since 1992
- Russia and New Jersey to be added (as expected)


Wow talk about burn out for all the teams and drivers. Also :down: to Bahrain being round 1. Another backwards step.

#4 Disgrace

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:43

21 races of melting Pirellis and DRS overtakes. The era of quantity over quality.

#5 Fastcake

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 19:43

While I kind of like Melbourne as the first race, it's only really because of sentiment. It doesn't really matter where the first race is, and if it's easier for everyone involved to go testing in Bahrain and then race there I have no real objection. The last race is a little different, as you want it to be on a good circuit so we can have a good championship battle.

So 21 races. Well Bernie's been trying for years but save for last season the number of races remained stubbonly stuck under 20. I'm expecting either New Jersey not to make it or more likely Korea to pull out.

#6 pacificquay

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:04

For the crews, it is exhausting.

For the drivers, 21 races is an easier workload than the traditional 16 races and a shitload of testing

#7 R Soul

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:05

How does 21 races help with cost cutting?

#8 pacificquay

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:06

Races make money

#9 Sakae

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:08

Races make money

For whom?

#10 Fastcake

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:08

How does 21 races help with cost cutting?


More races means more Bernie money for the teams. The real costs are developing the cars anyway.

#11 Wlleiotl

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:08

excellent news, hoping for 30 races by 2020

#12 Sakae

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:10

Isn't Bahrain slated as a location for expanded pre-season testing?

#13 OO7

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:10

Wasn't it only last year that we heard of 20 races being the maximum per season?

#14 Sakae

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:14

Wasn't it only last year that we heard of 20 races being the maximum per season?

Ron Denis said once that 18 was just as much as they can take. (But I think it was before insertion of the August break).

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:16

I can only imagine either they are expecting either New Jersey or Sochi not to make it or they will dump an existing race. Korea would be a good choice but one in Europe :mad: might be more likely.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:20

For me great, I can take 21, 25, 30 races. I like watching F1.

For the teams, I'm not so sure and I think we're already at the limit of what's sensible. Unless a 21-race calendar is just a cheeky way of having all their bases covered if they expect at least one of the races to fail and not actually be run (particularly Sochi and New Jersey).

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:21

Sounds good! I don't care much for Bahrain, but more races sounds nice from a spectator's point of view. :up:

Should the number of races become an actual problem, I'm sure the teams and the FIA will get together and figure out a way to work things out.

#18 Sakae

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 20:45

Talking about racing, March - Nov, every 2 weeks a race, with 3 weeks break in August is fine with me. If they do some testing in pre-season, and also during a season, I think teams might have their hands full.

Edited by Sakae, 09 June 2013 - 10:47.


#19 rmac923

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:28

This IMO, is the safe 2014 schedule. No Surprises.

March 2 - Bahrain
March 23 - Australia
March 30 - Malaysia
April 13 - China
May 11 - Spain
May 25 - Monaco
June 8 - Canada
June 15 - New Jersey
June 29 - Great Britain
July 6 - Germany
July 20 - Hungary
July 27 - Russia
August 31 - Belgium
September 7 - Italy
September 21 - Singapore
October 5 - Korea
October 12 - Japan
October 26 - India
November 2 - Abu Dhabi
November 16 - United States
November 23 - Brazil


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#20 EthanM

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:32

Wasn't it only last year that we heard of 20 races being the maximum per season?



I believe that was in the previous Concorde, 20 race season maximum. With no CA I guess Bernie can go to the teams with a fait-accompli and a take it or leave it attitude :)

#21 Shiroo

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:47

This IMO, is the safe 2014 schedule. No Surprises.

March 2 - Bahrain
March 23 - Australia
March 30 - Malaysia
April 13 - China
May 11 - Spain
May 25 - Monaco
June 8 - Canada
June 15 - New Jersey
June 29 - Great Britain
July 6 - Germany
July 20 - Hungary
July 27 - Russia
August 31 - Belgium
September 7 - Italy
September 21 - Singapore
October 5 - Korea
October 12 - Japan
October 26 - India
November 2 - Abu Dhabi
November 16 - United States
November 23 - Brazil

I still can't understand why Canada is after Monaco. Wouldn't it be simply better to put it around Nuvember with United States and Brazil? And same with New Jersey

#22 Andrew Hope

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:51

I still can't understand why Canada is after Monaco. Wouldn't it be simply better to put it around Nuvember with United States and Brazil? And same with New Jersey


I don't know how familiar you are with North America, but the weather in Quebec and New Jersey in November is quite different than it is in Texas and Brazil.


#23 ApexMouse

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:51

I still can't understand why Canada is after Monaco. Wouldn't it be simply better to put it around Nuvember with United States and Brazil? And same with New Jersey


You want to race in Montreal, in November? :p

#24 EthanM

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 22:56

You want to race in Montreal, in November? :p


formula 1 ice race should be fun.

#25 SpaMaster

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 23:15

21 races and four 2-day tests is quite a workload for teams. It would be pretty draining.

#26 Andrew Hope

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 23:42

Boo hoo. Being a waitress 48 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour or working 60 hours a week landscaping is draining too. I'd trade just about any job in the world to be able to work in F1 and I wouldn't cry myself to sleep at night if there was an extra exotic country I had to travel too this year.

#27 SpaMaster

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 23:56

Boo hoo. Being a waitress 48 hours a week for 7 bucks an hour or working 60 hours a week landscaping is draining too. I'd trade just about any job in the world to be able to work in F1 and I wouldn't cry myself to sleep at night if there was an extra exotic country I had to travel too this year.

Then don't do it.

Just because one job is draining, it does not mean others are not. There are still slaves in some parts of the world. There are still house-maids in some parts of the world who work 110 hours a week for wages much less than even that of waitress. There are many others who do the same hours on other random multiple jobs without even the guarantee of house-maid job. Would we all compare with that? Money, money, money. Just because they get money, it does not mean they deserve all the stick!

#28 jondon

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 00:23

Just bring back 16 races on quality tracks and allow for some in season testing. This current version of F1 will be remembered in future years for all the wrong reasons..... Fake overtaking with stupid tyres, and wings, and bland tracks replacing classic ones.

#29 ExFlagMan

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:27

I predict it will start much earlier with the race by teams to find 2nd hand tyre dealers. First event will probably be in Bangladesh where the big tyre recycling/reprocessing companies are based.
Rumour has it Bernie will be returning from Canada the long way round.

#30 pacificquay

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:24

The classic 16 races is the right number.

Too many races means each is devalued as an event in its own right and simply becomes a "round" of the championship.


#31 finignig

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:28

I dont get why Bahrain want the opening spot, it’s like they are trying to shoot themselves in the foot everytime. March 2nd is way closer to February 14th than late April.

#32 Les

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:35

I liked the way it was till 83 with 16 or less races but also some non-championship races: http://en.wikipedia....ce_of_Champions

Since then Bernie got more of a grip and it became all about the championship. It is what it is I guess, hopefully the new races will be worthwhile although as I said I expect it'll be 20 one way or another.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:39

This IMO, is the safe 2014 schedule. No Surprises.

March 2 - Bahrain
March 23 - Australia
March 30 - Malaysia
April 13 - China
May 11 - Spain
May 25 - Monaco
June 8 - Canada
June 15 - New Jersey
June 29 - Great Britain
July 6 - Germany
July 20 - Hungary
July 27 - Russia
August 31 - Belgium
September 7 - Italy
September 21 - Singapore
October 5 - Korea
October 12 - Japan
October 26 - India
November 2 - Abu Dhabi
November 16 - United States
November 23 - Brazil


The Russian race won't be in a back to back (at least not for the first year). They will probably be a two week gap before the Russian GP.


#34 pacificquay

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 11:50

Just from the races listed on the proposed 2014 calendar above, I'd say the below would make a decent 16-race season.

Brazil
United States
China
India
Spain
Monaco
Canada
New Jersey
Great Britain
Germany
Hungary
Belgium
Italy
Singapore
Japan
Australia


#35 rmac923

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 14:01

The Russian race won't be in a back to back (at least not for the first year). They will probably be a two week gap before the Russian GP.


There's no where else to put the race. I doubt they'll do Britain/Germany/Hungary in 3 straight weekends.

Maybe Spa before the summer break, and then Russia when they come back?

#36 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 15:19

I dont get why Bahrain want the opening spot, it’s like they are trying to shoot themselves in the foot everytime. March 2nd is way closer to February 14th than late April.

Last pre season test will be at Bahrain, so it makes more sense that Bahrain get the opening slot.

#37 lambylamby

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 15:20

http://www1.skysport...1-race-calendar

- 21 races
- Bahrain to begin on March 2nd, would be earliest start to a season since 1992
- Russia and New Jersey to be added (as expected)


Well, because of Borefest Bahrain, the race will start a bit later for me ;-)

#38 peroa

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:43

Old man is making a sensible move after all.
http://adamcooperf1....t-in-australia/

While Bernie Ecclestone continues to struggle fine tune the details of next year’s F1 calendar the one bit of information the teams have been given is that the season will start on March 16 in Australia.


Oz for the start, as it should be.
:clap:

Edited by peroa, 29 July 2013 - 07:44.


#39 D A

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 07:50

The NJ GP will not be on the 15th according to the FIA due to Le Mans:

FIA WORLD ENDURANCE CHAMPIONSHIP

In order to preserve the historic date of the Le Mans 24 Hours, which this year celebrated its 90th edition, the date of 14/15 June 2014 has been retained to ensure that a Formula One Grand Prix is not hosted the same weekend.


http://www.fia.com/n...sport-council-1

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#40 Baddoer

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:17

Where is Austria?

#41 Kristian

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:43

I don't like the idea of the first race being after a few days of testing at the same circuit- it takes away some of the mystique and unpredictability of the season opener. If we had the test in Dubai, Qatar or Abu Dhabi that would be much better.

Also of course Bahrain is no place for a season opener in comparison to Melbourne.

#42 Giz

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:11

Where is Austria?


North of Italy and Slovenia

East of Switxerland

South East of Germany

South of Czech Republic

West of Slovakia and Hungary



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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:13

And, of course, east of Lichtenstein.

#44 Goron3

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:34

I still can't understand why Canada is after Monaco. Wouldn't it be simply better to put it around Nuvember with United States and Brazil? And same with New Jersey


The weather for a start. For the same reason you can't put the russian race at the end of the season.

#45 muramasa

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:47

Where is Austria?

below, or on the other side of earth from, off the coast of new zealand :p
http://www.antipodr....austria&x=0&y=0


#46 ryan86

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 09:49

You could probably get away with a Sochi GP November. It would probably just be like being at Silverstone.

#47 fred54

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 15:12

India doesn't look like appearing in 2014....

#48 William Hunt

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 15:25

The race(s) that will drop of is probably 1 or 2 from the trio India, Japan (only current country that doesn't have a contract for next year) & South Korea.

Edited by William Hunt, 29 July 2013 - 15:25.


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Posted 29 July 2013 - 15:31

Just trying to think.....next year we have 3 new races don't we, taking it to 22. Not totally convinced NJ will go ahead so that's 21, India sounds like it could go, so that's 20. Wouldn't be surprised if Korea disappears either next year or 2015 taking it down to 19 again. Are there any new races slated for 2015?

#50 muramasa

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 15:40

The race(s) that will drop of is probably 1 or 2 from the trio India, Japan (only current country that doesn't have a contract for next year) & South Korea.

This past March, Suzuka and FOM extended F1 contract until 2018 :)