Rate the Canadian GP!
#1
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:43
Best Driver
Worst Driver
Best Team
Best Overtake
Best Moment
DRS + Tyres
And the race in a sentence...
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#2
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:46
Best Driver: Lewis fighting with that car
Dull for being Canada, which is usually a 9-10.
Edited by Alx09, 09 June 2013 - 19:49.
#3
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:49
Seb won despite not having best car, or top speed. Da Man!
#4
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:49
But for mother of god, dont "improve" tyres on safety reasons. Ferrari and Lotus will be ****ed up with kevlar belt as well
then we didn't watch the same raceSix (6).
Seb won despite not having best car, or top speed. Da Man!
Edited by Shiroo, 09 June 2013 - 19:50.
#5
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:51
Edited by Disgrace, 09 June 2013 - 19:51.
#6
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:52
Worst Driver: VDG
Best Team: RBR
Best Overtake: Alonso on Webber
Best Moment: Alonso passing Lewis
DRS + Tyres: 2 DRS zones is overkill
And the race in a sentence...: I adore that track but the race was boring boring boring.
#7
Posted 09 June 2013 - 19:58
Solid, entertaining race.
#8
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:17
Vettel easily best driver.
Van der Garde worst driver, he was totally asleep in the hairpin incident.
RBR best team. Great car, great pitstops.
Best overtake... can´t really think of a good one now, most were drive by passes.
Best moment Bottas and Räikkönen showing it´s possible to go side by side through T3-4 if the guy inside respects the guy on the outside and gives him room on the second part of the chicane.
DRS zones should be pushed towards the start of the straights and get to an end way before braking zones. It should be active from 3rd gear speed range to 6th gear speed range. Otherwise it produces drive by passes. It should help getting normal slipstream, not help getting alongside and past.
Tyres were OK, maybe yellow soft should be in for medium but still OK.
#9
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:21
Drivers pushing from the first to the final lap around a great circuit. Pirelli and DRS neutralised. Couldn't ask for more.
8/10
#10
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:22
Best drivers: Paul di Resta for making the one stop work that well, Alonso for maximising the result, Vettel for doing what he was supposed to. I don't agree with Sakae re- Vettel not having the fastest car - at worst it was second best and close to Ferrari, but with position he was in at the start, it didn't matter.
Best moment: nothing that would stand out.. Sutil's 360 was nice, and there were some nice battles throughout...
Best overtake: Can't remember a non-DRS one.. So I'm gonna go with FA on Lewis. Used the DRS strategically perfectly, not forcing the issue at the last turn, but rather set the move for T1.
DRS: If I forget my general dislike for DRS rule and especially the zones here, it was definitely less noticeable than I feared it would be. But I dunno.. I can't really cheer when two drivers are engaged in a close battle and then a push of a button decides it.
Tyres: pretty much what I want to see from Pirelli. Yes, they went off after a while, but the drivers could still push. And as Di Resta proved, there was a chance of a different strategy.
Overall, a fun race, some very nice battles throughout the field, but the DRS and lack of a battle for the lead (+ maybe my dislike of the winner - esp. when looking at it championship wise) push it down to an 8/10 for me.
#11
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:23
Massa outbraking Raikkonen on the outside was pretty slick.Best overtake... can´t really think of a good one now, most were drive by passes.
#12
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:25
Worst Driver Van der Garde
Best Team RBR
It was pretty rubbish for Canada but at least it seemed that drivers at the front were all going for it.
6 from me
#13
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:25
Six (6).
Seb won despite not having best car, or top speed. Da Man!
#14
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:25
Best driver: Vettel, honourable mentions to Di Resta & Vergne
Worst driver: VDG, Sutil had scrappy races
Best Team: Red Bull
Best overtake: Alonso on Hamilton. Also enjoyed some of Massa's early on
Best moment: See above
DRS + Tyres: Think DRS was pretty much spot on today. As for tyres, well, it did have a 'pure' feel to it which was refreshing even if the race wasn't really a classic.
And the race in a sentence: In a word - Vettel
#15
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:26
Worst Driver: Sutil
Best Team: rbr
Best Overtake: I don't really remember any amazing ones?
Best Moment: hamilton's traction matrix radio response
DRS + Tyres: drs not as offensive as I feared, tyres random
And the race in a sentence... Steady, for Canada
7/10
#16
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:26
Di Resta/Alonso
Redbull
#17
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:27
Six (6).
Seb won despite not having best car, or top speed. Da Man!
Sigh
#18
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:29
Alonso catching and passing Hamilton was pretty cool.
Uh... Yeah.
#19
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:30
Seb, Lewis and Fernando showed why they are the top boys.
Edited by jrg19, 09 June 2013 - 20:31.
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#20
Posted 09 June 2013 - 20:36
Best Driver Vettel
Worst Driver Van Der Garde
Best Team Red Bull
Best Overtake Alonso on Hamilton
Best Moment - Watching the side view from Hamilton's front wing while Alonso overtook him. Love such close up shots which show the relative speeds between cars overtaking
Wanted to see a closer race for the win, but Vettel came up with his usual trick. Very 2011-ish in terms of Vettel doing his own thing at the front while there was some pretty good action behind.
Canada tends to produce the "opposite" effect in the tyres. More than usual number of pit stops with the super durable Birdgestones in 2010 and less than usual with the Pirelli this year.
#21
Posted 09 June 2013 - 21:41
#22
Posted 09 June 2013 - 21:59
Best Driver: Alonso. He was a bit behind after the start, having to put a bit more effort into passing Bottas than Rosberg and Webber had done, but fought back to an impressive 2nd. It was mighty close with Hamilton a few times. Thankfully nothing bad came of it.
Worst Driver: Giedo van der Garde. Bumping into one of the leaders is bad enough, but to drive around half the circuit with a wing stuck under your car shows extremely poor judgement.
Best Team: Red Bull.
Best Overtake: Massa had a few nice ones around the track. Can't remember one in particular that stood out, though.
Best Moment: Massa's first dozen or so laps were quite enjoyable, and it was nice to see most of it on the broadcast.
DRS + Tyres: DRS has always been a bit overdone in Canada. It's still a silly gimmick, but on tracks like this it does serve its purpose. Tyres seemed decent enough, there was a variety of strategies that all seemed to work somewhat.
And the race in a sentence: Enjoyable race, but hopefully the dominant form of Red Bull and Vettel isn't the start of a boring second half of the season.
Edited by Nonesuch, 09 June 2013 - 22:00.
#23
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:08
#24
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:10
Best Driver Seb Vettel
Worst Driver VDG
Best Team Force India
Best Overtake I guess Alonso on Hamilton, but the DRS factor detracts a bit from it.
Best Moment Hearing the radio message that the McLaren drivers were free to race each other. Sadly did not materialize into what I was hoping for.
DRS + Tyres Why the double DRS? Tyres were fine, so nice to see drivers actually pushing, cars sliding etc.
And the race in a sentence... Utter dominance by the current world champion
#25
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:10
Its funny how people's perceptions are different, many bemoaned the Monaco race which I enjoyed and it seems vice versa for this one.
Edited by DinocoBlue, 09 June 2013 - 22:11.
#26
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:13
Massa outbraking Raikkonen on the outside was pretty slick.
Spoiler
Nah, since they picked their braking points the outcome was clear, far from a thrill.
Rosberg did it in a much more beatiful and exciting way last year if you like seeing people past your nemesis. That was a nice pass.
#27
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:15
Worst Driver: VDG
Best Team : Red Bull
Best Overtake : Alonso on Lewis
Best Moment: SV scraping the wall while pushing like a demon
DRS + Tyres : Struck the right balance here it seems
And the race in a sentence : I liked it. Nice to see drivers more or less going flat out for the duration of the race.
#28
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:16
Best Driver: Fernando Alonso
Worst Driver: Giedo van der Garde (what is this, i don't even)
Best Team: Force India
Best Overtake: Alonso on Hamilton
Best Moment: watching Vettel pull away from everyone (obvious sarcasm here)
DRS + Tyres: No need for 2 zones, tyres were fine this time around
Race in a sentence: Borefest. Didn't expect Vettel to pull away this much and was utterly disappointed that nobody could challenge him.
#29
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:26
And not even one safety car... ZZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZZ
Only exciting was first 2 laps and the fight between Hammy and Alonso.
Vettel crushed everone today.
Edited by LaoTze, 09 June 2013 - 22:26.
#30
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:27
#31
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:39
I genuinely thought it was a good pass and was the first to come to mind since as you say, many passes were done easily with DRS.Nah, since they picked their braking points the outcome was clear, far from a thrill.
Rosberg did it in a much more beatiful and exciting way last year if you like seeing people past your nemesis. That was a nice pass.
And my nemesis? Wow, man. Its just laughable at this point.
#32
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:40
Worst Driver: Sutil, just embarassing.
Best Team: Red Bull
Best Overtake: Everyone on Bottas.
Best Moment: There wasn't really one
DRS + Tyres: Today they worked how they should.
#33
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:41
I 'd give it an 8.
#34
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:47
Edited by Mauseri, 09 June 2013 - 22:49.
#35
Posted 09 June 2013 - 22:54
I genuinely thought it was a good pass and was the first to come to mind since as you say, many passes were done easily with DRS.
For a pass to be good, I like to see the cars going side by side into the corner. When a driver fully clears the other under braking and then takes the full width of the track and the racing line all through a corner is an easy pass. Rosberg´s pass last year was really good, it´s not often you see cars managing to go side by side through there, both adjusted their speed really well to go fast and respect the rival alongside.
And my nemesis? Wow, man. Its just laughable at this point.
Everyday it goes by you know better the people you have contact with, you get more chances to see how people reacts to different events (like an incident where it´s clear cut to see who was in the wrong) when it affects different drivers. So by now, after all this time here reading what people has to say when so much different stuff happens, it´s already become pretty clear what everyone´s game around here is.
#36
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:03
Worst Driver Giedo van der Garde
Best Team mh hard to say, RB or Ferrari
Best Overtake the only one I really remember is the one in the beginning where 2 people at once overtook Bottas, can't really remember who tho
Best Moment Seb crossing the finishing line at P1 ( maybe thats just a personal best moment)
DRS + Tyres at last tyres didnt seem to dominate everything as much anymore
And the race in a sentence... Thats how I want F1 racing to be
Edited by Sin, 09 June 2013 - 23:05.
#37
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:05
Well I thought it was a good move.For a pass to be good, I like to see the cars going side by side into the corner. When a driver fully clears the other under braking and then takes the full width of the track and the racing line all through a corner is an easy pass. Rosberg´s pass last year was really good, it´s not often you see cars managing to go side by side through there, both adjusted their speed really well to go fast and respect the rival alongside.
You're really not as clever as you think you are.Everyday it goes by you know better the people you have contact with, you get more chances to see how people reacts to different events (like an incident where it´s clear cut to see who was in the wrong) when it affects different drivers. So by now, after all this time here reading what people has to say when so much different stuff happens, it´s already become pretty clear what everyone´s game around here is.
#38
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:14
Worst Driver
Maldonado, if only because Van der Garde is less experienced at being a douche
Best Team
Ferrari i think, pushed and pushed and got two decent results
Best Overtake
Massa on the early laps several times (courtesy BBC onboard feed)
Best Moment
Best moment was the non-event of drivers not being told to look after anything!
DRS + Tyres
Tyres were very good (ask Di Resta!), DRS was unnecessary again.
And the race in a sentence..
....like meeting an old girlfriend and finding she doesn't still hate you ;)
8/10
Edited by wrighty, 09 June 2013 - 23:22.
#39
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:28
Well I thought it was a good move.
Of course you did.
You're really not as clever as you think you are.
Luckily you make efforts to make stuff like this obvious so I don´t need to be a genious to spot it.
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#40
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:46
#41
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:48
Vettel
Worst Driver
Van der Garde
Best Team
RBR
Best Overtake
Webber on Rosberg
Best Moment
Vettel under the checkered
DRS + Tyres
okay
And the race in a sentence..
Sebastian Vettel, you are DA man!!! Brilliant Drive!
#42
Posted 09 June 2013 - 23:59
It is hard to understand that the exciting 2010 race was the model for the Pirelli tire formula and now these same tires it seems have made Montreal one of the most boring races on the calendar.
Edited by halifaxf1fan, 10 June 2013 - 00:00.
#43
Posted 10 June 2013 - 01:56
Best overtaking: Alonso on Hamilton?
Very good race: the way Alonso fought back was quite interesting. Vettel's first quarter of the race was incredible, Jim Clark-like.
#44
Posted 10 June 2013 - 02:17
Cheers.Please rate the race objectively and not on your favourite drivers result
Best Driver--Sebastian Vettel (It pains me to say it but he was on it). Fernando if you want an alternative
Worst Driver--GVdG, obviously
Best Team--Red Bull, obviously
Best Overtake--Fred on Lewis, also obviously
Best Moment--undecided
DRS + Tyres--no comment
And the race in a sentence... Much more boring than the usual Canada race
#45
Posted 10 June 2013 - 05:11
Worst Driver vdG
Best Team RBR
Best Overtake Massa had plenty
Best Moment none
DRS + Tyresboth good
And the race in a sentence...did not feel artifical.
a solid 7/10.
#46
Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:21
Worst Driver Noone really that bad. VdG crashed into Webber, Sutil ignored blue flags, but that's tiny mistakes.
Best Team Noone impressed me. Red Bull was just fastest.
Best Overtake Alonso on Hamilton
Best Moment Ham coming back at Alonso, really thought he can pull this move off
DRS + Tyres Okish, still drivers not pushing.
And the race in a sentence... Expected better. A bit boring.
6/10
#47
Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:28
Worst Driver-- Van Der Garde.
Best Team--Red Bull or Force India
Best Overtake--Alonso on Hamilton or Webber
Best Moment--The Kimi / Bottas fight and Massa early in the race
DRS + Tyres--DRS actually didn't seem as bad as the last two years but maybe only what was captured on TV
And the race in a sentence... RIP to the poor Marshal who was killed
#48
Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:32
The good thing about the race was that drivers were actually pushing and not only taking care of the tyres all of the race. However, the gaps between the cars were a bit too big and the passes a bit too easy in my opinion, which is why I didn't give a higher rating. It's a huge step up from pure tyre saving exercises though.
#49
Posted 10 June 2013 - 08:51
Worst Driver - van der Garde.
Best Team - Red Bull
Best Overtake - Alonso on Hamilton and the whole sequence leading up to the overtake and the mini battle subsequent to it
Best Moment - When Alonso finally got the go ahead to push (still flabbergasted by the decision to base strategy around a probable safety car)
DRS + Tyres - Don't think DRS should be used around Canada and they went a step to far with prime tyre. Di Resta did more than 3/4 GP on a set of medium tyres...
The field spread was very large for Canada though. 6
#50
Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:08
They weren't?DRS + Tyres Okish, still drivers not pushing.