Mr. F1?
#1
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:03
It got me thinking,every one at that time knew who Shumi was,even the ones who hated F1.However, if I would have done a write up (at that time) of lets say Fernando Alonso or Kimi Raikonnen,nobody would have known who I was talking about.
So who is the current 'Mr f1'?My personal choice is Lewis Hamilton.Hate him or love him he generates alot of column inches and if anyone mentions F1 they are bound to mention Lewis.Please note,I am not talking about the most popular driver,rather the one who the world identifys F1 with.What do you guys think?
#3
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:08
#4
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:11
#5
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:18
#6
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:27
However, when I was at a local karting track recently, a lot of the 10-15 year old kids were wearing Red Bull/Vettel caps. And Ferrari, of course - always Ferrari.;)
Edited by Nonesuch, 12 June 2013 - 09:28.
#7
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:34
Adrian Newey
Oh dear. Certain drivers really have an enourmous impact on their followers, who even develop exactly the same obsessions as their hero.
#8
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:40
He was the first one that came to my mind tooBernie, alas.
From the drivers:
- Maybe Alonso as he already has 2 Championships and drives for the biggest, most popular and most important team in F1 but missing out on a title the last 3 years is hurting his position as Mr F1
- Lewis was hyped by the press as the new Mr. F1 but after his title the results are failing him. 7 years in a top team and only 1 title to show for is just not enough, he does however generate a lot of press for all the right and sometimes wrong reasons.
- Seb Vettel has the titles and the records to show for it and if he continues on his winning way he'll surely become the new Mr. F1 and successor to Michael Schumacher. The fact that he has a media adverse personality and that he drives for a non-traditional team like Red Bull doesn't help his case though.
So for now I'd say the position is still vacant
#9
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:47
You raise a good point about Lewis,its not realy his sucess on the race track that gathers column inches but his relationship with Nicole and his lifestyle isnt it?He was the first one that came to my mind too
From the drivers:
- Maybe Alonso as he already has 2 Championships and drives for the biggest, most popular and most important team in F1 but missing out on a title the last 3 years is hurting his position as Mr F1
- Lewis was hyped by the press as the new Mr. F1 but after his title the results are failing him. 7 years in a top team and only 1 title to show for is just not enough, he does however generate a lot of press for all the right and sometimes wrong reasons.
- Seb Vettel has the titles and the records to show for it and if he continues on his winning way he'll surely become the new Mr. F1 and successor to Michael Schumacher. The fact that he has a media adverse personality and that he drives for a non-traditional team like Red Bull doesn't help his case though.
So for now I'd say the position is still vacant
On the other hand Schumi was all track side,even his bad headline making antics were all on the track,same with Vettel actualy and to a larger extent Alonso.Might have to rethink my choice.
#10
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:48
#11
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:48
#12
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:51
Oh dear. Certain drivers really have an enourmous impact on their followers, who even develop exactly the same obsessions as their hero.
my dear friend, i'm not a driver fan and i don't like any particular driver.
I'm a car Fan and a Ferrari fan (i will always support Ferraris driver whoever they are) but i recognize Newey is the best out there...i want him to work for my team, he has dominated the last 3 championships and is in a way for a 4th...it reminds me a 2000-2004 era for the red team...so in my opinion he is clearly the Mr.F1 of this era
Edited by Nomore, 12 June 2013 - 09:52.
#13
Posted 12 June 2013 - 09:59
It's certainly not true that "everyone" knew who Schumacher was, even at the height of his powers. Several times he has said his favoured holiday destination is the USA, as he can wander around in any part of the country and go unrecognised.
Just chucking in a quick EDIT having seen the post from "Nomore" above mine. A couple of months back I stood next to Mr Newey in the National Science Museum in London, I wasn't particularly bothered to be honest. He was with a family member so I certainly wasn't going to bother him, not that I would have done anyway. What could you possibly say that hasn't been said to him before?
Of the thousands of people milling around inside the museum I have to say either nobody had a clue who he was or nobody else was bothered either. He's not a superstar by any means, but I guess he's known amongst "us".
Possibly going slightly too far down the "star" route here, but I don't really get star worship outside of their "workplace". I've shook hands and grabbed photos at gigs and races but I couldn't think of anything more insulting to somebody than stopping them on the street etc. I recall a letter in F1 Racing magazine years ago slating Jacques Villenueve for refusing a photo or autograph to somebody while walking around in Soho. The person still took a photo (blurred) of JV as he continued walking with his pal. I'm sure they said he was polite in his refusal, but they still criticised him because "we pay his wages" etc etc. Hmmm....not while he is out shopping you don't.
Edited by Imperial, 12 June 2013 - 10:05.
#14
Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:06
LOL!Adrian Newey
I doubt that.
#15
Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:10
#16
Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:12
#17
Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:18
but my personal favorite is Charles Pic.... I want to see him playing that guy in Equus you know? He just makes my hormones go crazy...
And being serious: thats really hard to say I think the person that stands most for F1 in general in Bernie... but there are so many people important for F1
Edited by Sin, 12 June 2013 - 15:20.
#18
Posted 12 June 2013 - 15:47
similer situation in napcar, dale jr is huge, but is only pretty damn good.
#19
Posted 12 June 2013 - 16:08
#21
Posted 12 June 2013 - 16:47
Of course for UK residents it will be Hamilton, for Spain Alonso, and for Germany Vettel. But there is no worldwide name at the moment. I know noone in my family and close friends would ever know current names if not for me.
#22
Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:09
#23
Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:41
In UK must be Lewis, but doubt that's the case globally.
#24
Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:42
#25
Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:54
Edited by Sakae, 12 June 2013 - 18:55.
#26
Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:12
#27
Posted 13 June 2013 - 03:08
Edited by George Costanza, 13 June 2013 - 03:08.
#28
Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:06
#29
Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:30
"Who do you think you are - Sebastian Vettel?"
Maybe it just needs some time ...
#30
Posted 13 June 2013 - 04:57
#31
Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:10
It's still Schumacher. None of the current drivers come close.
QFT! He's still the man. If Fernando would have taken two titles from Seb he MAY have had a shot. Now it's up to Seb if he wants to go to the red team and take home a few titles for the shot at being the face of F1 for a decade.
#32
Posted 13 June 2013 - 05:19
#33
Posted 13 June 2013 - 09:18
#34
Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:16
I am making plans to start a blog,once its up and running it will be one of the first items to go up!Will provide a link mate.Kenkip, could you publish the report? Would like to read it!
#35
Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:29
I dont think Seb realy has to go to Ferrari to get there.If he nails 8 or 9 titles in redbull he will be Mr.F1 regardless.QFT! He's still the man. If Fernando would have taken two titles from Seb he MAY have had a shot. Now it's up to Seb if he wants to go to the red team and take home a few titles for the shot at being the face of F1 for a decade.
IMO he actualy needs more episodes like multi 21 to realy cement his position there,or go Lewis Hamilton's way and be a celebrity,whichever he fancies.
Some are saying Alonso,I think he is past the age to start a dominant era again,he blew that chance in 2007-2009,and when he finaly settled in a team that had his back 100% the RBR/Vettel nightmare started.
Bernie??Not a chance guys.He is well known maybe around the European circle of fans but around the world I realy doubt his name ring a bell.
I will still stick with my choice of Hamilton,though Seb has a long shot at it.
#36
Posted 13 June 2013 - 11:40
QFT! He's still the man. If Fernando would have taken two titles from Seb he MAY have had a shot. Now it's up to Seb if he wants to go to the red team and take home a few titles for the shot at being the face of F1 for a decade.
Fernando missed that possibility as you said. Anyway, none of the current drivers trascends the sport. And for doing it not only are the titles, there are other points like the charismatic personality or a couple of legendary races, or a rivalry etc...
I think only Senna and then Schumi were well known out of F1.
For the future, maybe Lewis if he starts some succesful years with mercedes, and the same for Alonso. It depends on the circunstances, the way of wining, the media around the races and so on. Vettel maybe but as I said I think it´s not only about wining, and Vettel lacks a lot of charisma.
#37
Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:14
This charisma,what exactly do you mean by that?Fernando missed that possibility as you said. Anyway, none of the current drivers trascends the sport. And for doing it not only are the titles, there are other points like the charismatic personality or a couple of legendary races, or a rivalry etc...
I think only Senna and then Schumi were well known out of F1.
For the future, maybe Lewis if he starts some succesful years with mercedes, and the same for Alonso. It depends on the circunstances, the way of wining, the media around the races and so on. Vettel maybe but as I said I think it´s not only about wining, and Vettel lacks a lot of charisma.
#38
Posted 13 June 2013 - 12:17
I think this is actually a very legitimate way to test it.Here's a test: Does this sound right?
"Who do you think you are - Sebastian Vettel?"
Maybe it just needs some time ...
#39
Posted 13 June 2013 - 14:33
In North America, that would, without doubt, be Mario Andretti.Here's a test: Does this sound right?
"Who do you think you are - Sebastian Vettel?"
Maybe it just needs some time ...
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#40
Posted 13 June 2013 - 14:37
#41
Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:41
Here's a test: Does this sound right?
"Who do you think you are - Sebastian Vettel?"
Maybe it just needs some time ...
In the UK it went direct from Moss to Mansell, but by the time Hamilton was on the scene sarcastic policemen had been largely replaced by speed cameras.
#42
Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:44
I'd say its still Michael.
#43
Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:55
If anyone can replicate that it is Vettel or Alonso, time is running out for the Spaniard though. If Vettel joins Ferrari keeps winning and is involved in more 'multi 21' type incidents then it will be him.
#44
Posted 13 June 2013 - 18:11
#45
Posted 13 June 2013 - 18:27
Very intriguing question.
I would say not one single person. A combination of Vettel, Alonso, Hamilton and Raikkonen mostly.
If by Mr. F1, one thinks of the most presentable F1 driver, I would say Vettel.
#46
Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:20
Vettel
More Newey than Vettel. Vettel is no better than other drivers from top6. If not superb car, he would never be champion.
I would say Fernando Alonso is mr. F1 today - he is currently the best, most complete driver on the grid.
#47
Posted 14 June 2013 - 09:33
More Newey than Vettel. Vettel is no better than other drivers from top6. If not superb car, he would never be champion.
I would say Fernando Alonso is mr. F1 today - he is currently the best, most complete driver on the grid.
Don't tell that to Vettel's fans ...they hate the truth...
#48
Posted 14 June 2013 - 10:03
#49
Posted 14 June 2013 - 20:25
I think Schuey is still the name that the average non-racefan worldwide will remember if you say 'Formula One'.Schumacher now is still more famous worldwide than Vettel or Alonso.
In the UK, perhaps Lewis is catching up, but probably not elsewhere.
#50
Posted 20 June 2013 - 16:53
The top answer was Schumacher (71%), followed by Hamilton (48%) and Senna (44%).
Hawthorn was the only 0% answer, and Jim Clark was only named by a disappointingly low 2% of the population surveyed.
Edited by E.B., 20 June 2013 - 16:57.