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Why the Brabham fan car has been banned ?


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#1 mandingo

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 17:25

I watched this video

bernie(brabham team boss then) said that other constructors and team bosses approached and told him that we don't mind you running the car and but all other cars will follow and it will be crazy so he (bernie) went to his technical director and told him that the constructors assocciation is more important than winning the championship that year so they ditched it . So as I understand it was more like a gentlemen agreement rather than it being illegal

Imagine that situation happened nowadays . no way would any team give away such an advantage and a sure method to clinch the championship .

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#2 911

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 17:27

You'll probably get a faster response on the Nostalgia Forum..

#3 ensign14

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 17:28

Bernie was playing the long game, of course.

There were two problems Bernie faced; one, other teams would have caught up anyway, and with things like the Cosworth engine being better than the Alfa Romeos the Brabhams had a title was not guaranteed; two, further protests would have followed. And the FIA might have decided that, as Brabham didn't run the fans with the bottom of the car blocked off, the primary function was indeed aerodynamic, making them illegal.

#4 scheivlak

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 17:54

You'll probably get a faster response on the Nostalgia Forum..

There are several threads over there about the 46B like http://forums.autosp...w...6654&hl=fan, http://forums.autosp...w...5461&hl=fan and http://forums.autosp...w...5461&hl=fan

Most of them point also at the informative 8W article http://8w.forix.com/fancar.html

#5 Collombin

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 18:54

Imagine that situation happened nowadays . no way would any team give away such an advantage


other teams would have caught up anyway, and with things like the Cosworth engine


The Cosworth DFV is another good example of an advantage being given away, Chapman allowing the engine to be made available to other teams.


#6 panzani

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 19:49

Could some nice mod move this to Nostalgia Forum? Actually, we all know that is the only place with enough knowledge to answer this apparently simple question, don't we?

#7 Rob

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 22:00

The other teams gave him an ultimatum and said he could keep either FOCA or the fan car. He chose to keep FOCA.

#8 teejay

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 01:37

Could some nice mod move this to Nostalgia Forum? Actually, we all know that is the only place with enough knowledge to answer this apparently simple question, don't we?


Can we not. Even though I subscribe to Autosport and have been here a while, cant seem to get in :cry:

#9 dave34m

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 03:35

I watched this video

Who is the guy in yellow at 3.30 in this video, can anyone identify him?

#10 Watkins74

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:25

Who is the guy in yellow at 3.30 in this video, can anyone identify him?

Is that Jean Pierre Jabouille?

#11 Ralf Pickel

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:57

Gerard Larousse ! :wave:

#12 Nemo1965

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 06:44

The other teams gave him an ultimatum and said he could keep either FOCA or the fan car. He chose to keep FOCA.


Correct. But finally, I believe just before or after the following Grand Prix, the FIA banned the fan-car too.

#13 Shiroo

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 07:25

Correct. But finally, I believe just before or after the following Grand Prix, the FIA banned the fan-car too.

didn't they claim it was legal due to the fact, that fan was made for cooling purposes, and increased ten times aero was just a side effect ( :rotfl: )

#14 Buttoneer

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 17:09

Can we not. Even though I subscribe to Autosport and have been here a while, cant seem to get in :cry:

There's no prohibition on the Nostalgia forum. PM me and let me know what the problem is.

I'm closing this thread because there are links to the appropriate discussions in the correct forum for the question.