92 replies to this topic

[jimjimjeroo]

Car under weight, passed to the stewards! Demotion to back of the grid likely!

[mattferg]

I heard it was because he did a massive s**t between Q2 and 3, is this true?

[Ross Stonefeld]

Even someone who looks as constipated as Paul di Resta isn't dropping 3lbs of **** in a go. That's what forums are for.

[Wander]

Unlucky.

[Muppetmad]

Di Resta isn't having great luck in qualifying recently, is he? It's a shame, really. Rules are rules though.

[Jackman]

Even someone who looks as constipated as Paul di Resta isn't dropping 3lbs of **** in a go. That's what forums are for.

Bravo, sir!

[jjcale]

I'm dying to see his reaction in his next interview... I expect him to go fully berserk this time.

[Disgrace]

I'm dying to see his reaction in his next interview... I expect him to go fully berserk this time.

We won't hear from him until tomorrow, so we will only hear a pragmatic racing driver.

Edited by Disgrace, 29 June 2013 - 18:42.

[Mc_Silver]

So he will be disqualified from qualifying and start from at the end of the grid?

[Mandzipop]

Jon Noble @NobleF1
Paul di Resta has been excluded from qualifying at the British GP for car being underweight. Can start from back of grid

[wingwalker]

Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1 47s

New on @pauldirestaf1 - out of qualifying and he goes to back of the grid


as expected

[Mc_Silver]

Jon Noble @NobleF1
Paul di Resta has been excluded from qualifying at the British GP for car being underweight. Can start from back of grid

Oh, thanks for the quick answer. It was expected really. Poor Paul.

[Baddoer]

Bad news

[P123]

I'm looking forward to see him fighting his way through the field.

[Diablobb81]

Third quali that he is screwed. I feel sorry for him.

[DutchQuicksilver]

I'm looking forward to see him fighting his way through the field.

Unlikely. He's used more fresh tyres than he did in Monaco and Canada, because he's done Q2 and Q3 this time.

[olliek88]

Apparently there was a discrepancy with the FIA scales when the first measurement was taken (it showed them 2kg underweight not 1.5 as was later established using actual weights) and now Di Resta's weight has returned to normal. Weird. Force India considering an appeal.

[Fastcake]

Poor Paul, but if the car is underweight there's no option but to exclude him. Another team cock up.

[wingwalker]

Adam Cooper ‏@adamcooperf1 2m
Usually these things are black and white but there is some question mark re the calibration of the FIA scales






I don't really get it. Surely every driver was checked on the same device?

[superdelphinus]

Seems it was him, not the car. Bizzare and eminently appealable I reckon

[Shiroo]

Apparently there was a discrepancy with the FIA scales when the first measurement was taken (it showed them 2kg underweight not 1.5 as was later established using actual weights) and now Di Resta's weight has returned to normal. Weird. Force India considering an appeal.

well get back to weight within few hours isnt hard. I can be within one day 83-87 kg

[olliek88]

well get back to weight within few hours isnt hard. I can be within one day 83-87 kg

You change almost 9 pounds during the day?!?! 3-4 sure but 9!

[Shiroo]

You change almost 9 pounds during the day?!?! 3-4 sure but 9!

yy. at the morning i dont anything, get **** etc. = 83kg. Then at the evening if i eat a lot i'm around 87.

For example atm i'm 86.5 and at the morning i was around 82.5

[SamH123]

Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1 50s
Force India has ruled out an appeal over Paul di Resta's exclusion, so he will start from the back of the grid tomorrow.

Will be interesting to see what actually went on here. Sad way to lose about 10 points

[Boxerevo]

You change almost 9 pounds during the day?!?! 3-4 sure but 9!

Fighters do this trick to weigh in.

Seriously was some error from the team.

[DS27]

I look forward to hearing him blame the team

[george1981]

That is now three qualifying errors in a row from FI. They need to pull their socks up they can't give away opportunities to score big points.
Starting 5th with a car that is easier on its tyres than some, and at one of their home races!

[Shiroo]

I look forward to hearing him blame the team

and who should be blamed for that? They weight him before puttin him in the car. He dont go **** 1,5kg between Q1-Q3

[jonpollak]

You change almost 9 pounds during the day?!?! 3-4 sure but 9!

Slimfast I.V. ?
Jp

[SophieB]

@adamcooperf1: "BTW Force India sources confirm that @pauldirestaf1 did not do a big poop between FP3 and qualy so that doesn't explain it..."

Poor guy. Bad enough you're booted to the back of the grid without this sort of indignity being added for good measure!

[jjcale]

@adamcooperf1: "BTW Force India sources confirm that @pauldirestaf1 did not do a big poop between FP3 and qualy so that doesn't explain it..."

Poor guy. Bad enough you're booted to the back of the grid without this sort of indignity being added for good measure!

Have you seen his interviews.... I predict he is a few months away from becoming an internet meme.

[ensign14]

@adamcooperf1: "BTW Force India sources confirm that @pauldirestaf1 did not do a big poop between FP3 and qualy so that doesn't explain it..."

Poor guy. Bad enough you're booted to the back of the grid without this sort of indignity being added for good measure!

Even worse to be the journalist who has to go to FI and ask "did di Resta have the mother of a **** this morning?"

[Ross Stonefeld]

He's not even interesting enough for that.

[robefc]

Apparently there was a discrepancy with the FIA scales when the first measurement was taken (it showed them 2kg underweight not 1.5 as was later established using actual weights) and now Di Resta's weight has returned to normal. Weird. Force India considering an appeal.

My understanding was the scale showed just under 2kg when car drained of fuel but there is a 0.5kg allowance for accuracy of scale so the 'charge' was 1.5kg.

[DrProzac]

Bad luck. Though better to be excluded from qualy than from the race.

[olliek88]

Fighters do this trick to weigh in.

Seriously was some error from the team.

Well, yes, they do, however they only have fluids for about 24 hours before the weigh in and after that they pig out on carbs so they're ready for the fight the following day, which can lead to massive difference in weigh, Ricky Hatton was the most noticeable i can remember for this.

[rmpugh]

@adamcooperf1: "BTW Force India sources confirm that @pauldirestaf1 did not do a big poop between FP3 and qualy so that doesn't explain it..."

Poor guy. Bad enough you're booted to the back of the grid without this sort of indignity being added for good measure!

Indignity?? I would be bloody proud of a 2 KG ****.

[redreni]

and who should be blamed for that? They weight him before puttin him in the car. He dont go **** 1,5kg between Q1-Q3

Unfairly blaming the team in public is never a good idea. Correctly blaming the team in public is arguably an even worse idea. His race engineer doesn't go on telly with his telemetry trace and point out and complain about all his mistakes, does he?

Also, did Di Resta query his weight with the scrutineers at the weighbridge? Because normally when you see the drivers getting weighed, they take interest in the reading, so they obviously know what they're expecting to see. If they're lighter than expected, presumably they can ask to be weighed again, or for the calibration of the scales to be checked. I've no idea if that would have made any difference, but if he was 1.5kg lighter than he was supposed to be and he walked away without questioning it, that's not good.

[STRFerrari4Ever]

Ricciardo up to 5th then, the weekend just gets better and better for him.

[JtP1]

Unlucky.

I would have thought dropping a 3lb log and surviving would put you in the class of very lucky.

[ExFlagMan]

Wonder just how many millions FI have lost towards next years travel budget so far this year as a result of team screw ups - certainly a lot more than can be blamed on the drivers.

If a driver doesn't complain about so many teams cock-ups he doesn't really deserve to be there. Can't imagine Lewis or Vettel keeping quiet if it happened to them.

Edited by ExFlagMan, 29 June 2013 - 20:48.

[robefc]

Wonder just how many millions FI have lost towards next years travel budget so far this year as a result of team screw ups - certainly a lot more than can be blamed on the drivers.

If a driver doesn't complain about so many teams cock-ups he doesn't really deserve to be there. Can't imagine Lewis or Vettel keeping quiet if it happened to them.

Not sure how this is their fault though?

[fabr68]

oh ****...

[Shiroo]

Not sure how this is their fault though?

they check driver weight b efore quali. It isn't like he just went to the toilet before sittin in the car and just after getting weight

[SophieB]

Have you seen his interviews.... I predict he is a few months away from becoming an internet meme.

Oh I have indeed seen the interviews!

Still, tough break.

[KWSN - DSM]

It is a messup by someone, the teams naturally calculate the drivers letting natures calls being taken care of. So sometime since driver weights being checked yesterday and weighing of cars and drivers today, an adjustment was not done correctly which is why they end up being underweight. And this is why the team know that there is nothing to appeal against.

[gm914]

I've always said DiResta is a solid number-two driver...

[halifaxf1fan]

Unfairly blaming the team in public is never a good idea. Correctly blaming the team in public is arguably an even worse idea. His race engineer doesn't go on telly with his telemetry trace and point out and complain about all his mistakes, does he?

Also, did Di Resta query his weight with the scrutineers at the weighbridge? Because normally when you see the drivers getting weighed, they take interest in the reading, so they obviously know what they're expecting to see. If they're lighter than expected, presumably they can ask to be weighed again, or for the calibration of the scales to be checked. I've no idea if that would have made any difference, but if he was 1.5kg lighter than he was supposed to be and he walked away without questioning it, that's not good.

The team would have collected data and know the average weight of PdR's bowel movements and factored that into the weight calculation plus a margin of safety, say a variance of a half a kilo (about a hand full) or so depending if he had alot of cheese vs a feed of chili on a given day. So obviously a team mistake, someones head should roll for doing crap calculations!

Edited by halifaxf1fan, 29 June 2013 - 21:14.

[bourbon]

The team would have collected data and know the average weight of PdR's bowel movements and factored that into the weight calculation plus a margin of safety, say a variance of a half a kilo (about a hand full) or so depending if he had alot of cheese vs a feed of chili on a given day. So obviously a team mistake, someones head should roll for doing crap calculations!

[P123]

Unfairly blaming the team in public is never a good idea. Correctly blaming the team in public is arguably an even worse idea. His race engineer doesn't go on telly with his telemetry trace and point out and complain about all his mistakes, does he?

Also, did Di Resta query his weight with the scrutineers at the weighbridge? Because normally when you see the drivers getting weighed, they take interest in the reading, so they obviously know what they're expecting to see. If they're lighter than expected, presumably they can ask to be weighed again, or for the calibration of the scales to be checked. I've no idea if that would have made any difference, but if he was 1.5kg lighter than he was supposed to be and he walked away without questioning it, that's not good.

And all to be taken with a huge pinch of salt. It could be a simple human error of the team noting his weight down incorrectly, or miscalculation.