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[chrisblades85]

I don't see a thread so I'm starting one. Chilton to win

[Zoetrope]

1. Vettel 2. Hamilton 3. Grosjean 4. Alonso 5. Massa 6. Webber 7. Rosberg 8. Raikkonen 9. Button 10. Di Resta

You heard it here first.

[banesi]

Massa is on fire, GO Felipe!

[Timstr11]

The heat is going to favour Alonso et al on the harder tyre as I expect Hamilton Vettel and Webber to struggle in the first stint, with the soft tyre, on a hotter track with a full fuel tank.
We saw signs of this with Vettel and Webber losing performance relative to FP3 during qualy on the softs on low fuel.

With the high temperatures Lotus will be quite good as well.

Edited by Timstr11, 07 July 2013 - 08:59.

[SpaMaster]

1. Vettel 2. Hamilton 3. Grosjean 4. Alonso 5. Massa 6. Webber 7. Rosberg 8. Raikkonen 9. Button 10. Di Resta

You heard it here first.

You will never hear it again!

[Junky]

1. Rosberg (I know I'm crazy, it's a shot in the dark, but somehow I have this feeling!)
2. Vettel
3. Hamilton
4. Alonso
5. Raikkonen
6. Webber
7. Grosjean
8. Di Resta
9. Ricciardo
10. Button

[Fangiola]

definitely going to be an absorbing race. with all the mixed strategies. if I was ferrari I would put felipe and Alonso on different strategies. Felipe can start on softs that have not been used in quail and will be able to go about 10 laps as opposed to the front runners who will only do 6-7 laps on theirs. its worth a try considering the ferrari usually has good starts and he could make up a place or 2 from the start and then battle with the leaders from there on

[Radion]

I think kimi'll be able to drive a few more laps than ham, vet and web with the soft at the beginning. Grosjean is very likely to do the same as the lotus' are pretty good on their tyres.

Going to be pretty interesting race I reckon!

[Borko]

definitely going to be an absorbing race. with all the mixed strategies. if I was ferrari I would put felipe and Alonso on different strategies. Felipe can start on softs that have not been used in quail and will be able to go about 10 laps as opposed to the front runners who will only do 6-7 laps on theirs. its worth a try considering the ferrari usually has good starts and he could make up a place or 2 from the start and then battle with the leaders from there on

Massa set his time on hards. He needs to start on them.

[Fangiola]

Massa set his time on hards. He needs to start on them.

ok didn't know that. but they could have thought about doing that though

[Kelateboy]

The undercut may not work here if the primes take a few laps to get up to the temperature. But the difference in strategies between the top drivers will make this GP an entertaining race.

[moorsey]

Starting on brand new softs is an option for Rosberg though ?????

[robefc]

ok didn't know that. but they could have thought about doing that though

My understanding from interviews is that they didn't consider splitting strategies because they didn't want to compromise either driver. That suggests they are confident starting from hards in 7th/8th is a better option than 4th or 5th or wherever on softs. I wonder if they feel it's better than starting from pole on sorts?

As much as it detracts from Saturdays, the tyre rules do add more anticipation to Sundays when working like this...albeit, as a Lewis fan, I'd prefer less possible complications today!

Edited by robefc, 07 July 2013 - 09:10.

[robefc]

Starting on brand new softs is an option for Rosberg though ?????

Might be a good way to make up places quickly. May also depend if merc are targeting 3 stop v Ferrari on 2.

[Fangiola]

Starting on brand new softs is an option for Rosberg though ?????

to make this strategy work he will need a good start and also to make some good overtakes within the first 5 -6 laps

[mlsnoopy]

Might be a good way to make up places quickly. May also depend if merc are targeting 3 stop v Ferrari on 2.

I doubt that anybody will be able to do a 2 stop. The softs will last maximum 10 laps meaning that you have to do 25 laps on either sets of mediums. I just don't see it happening.

[robefc]

I doubt that anybody will be able to do a 2 stop. The softs will last maximum 10 laps meaning that you have to do 25 laps on either sets of mediums. I just don't see it happening.

I only ever look at prime and option so is it the hards that have looked like they could go forever or also the mediums at a couple of races? And I'm guessing that, regardless of the answer, higher temps are why you can't see it happening? Maybe 3 v 4? JA thinks little between 2 and 3 'in theory'.

Edited by robefc, 07 July 2013 - 09:36.

[Briz]

Hoping for some proper wheel to wheel Vettel vs Hamilton action today. They're both a joy to watch in such situations.

[Mtom]

I doubt that anybody will be able to do a 2 stop. The softs will last maximum 10 laps meaning that you have to do 25 laps on either sets of mediums. I just don't see it happening.

They run 24 laps in the FP on medium without much time lost.

[Niceone]

I doubt that anybody will be able to do a 2 stop. The softs will last maximum 10 laps meaning that you have to do 25 laps on either sets of mediums. I just don't see it happening.

Softs should last more if you use them at the end of the race with low fuel loads.

[Szoelloe]

Softs should last more if you use them at the end of the race with low fuel loads.

Not so sure about that

[Markn93]

Not so sure about that

They will be flying though. RB, Lewis and Kimi could be in alot of trouble if the Ferraris are close come the end.

[kosmos]

I hope the start is safe and we can see a cracking race with the different strategies.

[cturvf1]

will definately be an interesting race!!!
will be a bit more of a race than normal will the ferrari's and lotus's featuring as well as the merc's and red bulls.

desperately hoping that the tyre situation is sorted and doesnt spoil what could be an amazing race!

[DutchQuicksilver]

1-2 for Ferrari is on the cards. Their tyre choice is interesting. They just need to stretch the first stint as long as possible and postpone their final stint on the option as much as possible.

[ixnay]

Quick q. I'm in Italy for a wedding (near brindisi) and was wondering if any of the below channels show the F1 live?

Rai Sport 1
Rai Sport 2
Eurosport Germany
SkySport1 (italian)
SkySport2 (italian)
SkySport3 (italian)

Thank you in advance!

[Markn93]

Here's how I see the race unfolding:

-Lewis, RBs and Kimi (Rosberg close by if he starts on fresh softs) pull out approx 8-10 second gap to Ferraris in the opening 6-8 laps (the former numbers of each correspond to one another).
-They then pit, giving Massa and Alonso a 1-2, (Rosberg could even be ahead of these guys if he starts on the primes) who then open up more of a gap in the first couple of laps on these new primes as they warm up.
-The guys who have pitted then start reeling them in, how quickly I think is the key to this race, only for the Ferraris to pit approx lap 20 to give the front runner (guessing Lewis/Vettel at this point) the lead.
-The Ferraris should then close the gap on the leaders, whose deg at this point becomes a key factor in determining which proves to be the better strategy. What's also key at this point, is are the two groups (Alonso, Rosberg, if he starts on primes obviously, and Massa) and (Lewis, RBs, Kimi) fighting one another for position and losing bucket-loads of time to the 'other group' in so doing. I doubt Massa and Alonso would by themselves so Rosberg being in that mix may be crucial to the other group's chances of winning. Furthermore, the start is crucial as if a Sauber/Mclaren get in the way of the Ferraris I can see this strategy going downhill very quickly.
-If the Ferraris pit for the softs at the end, and have 8 laps with approx 10 seconds to the leader (very plausible) I think they'll be in with a great shout of the win.

Finally I'm not sure about others but this is the sort of race I love. Two strategies with no obvious favourite, both have their merits and the winner shouldn't, although it certainly could, be determined until the very final stages. Wish it were like this more often.

Just one man's musings. Probably completely wrong.

[PurpleHam]

Not very confident of a Hamilton win, car maybe not be setup to its best for the race due the the problems he's had this weekend.

Real test for Merc today, strong result from Hamilton, by that I mean a podium, and he can fight for the WDC without doubt, going to be over 30 degrees today, acid test indeed.

[SpaMaster]

Did the RBs and Mercedes use mediums for Q1? If so, they could be short of one set of fresh mediums if the race turns out to be a 3-stopper?

[Markn93]

Did the RBs and Mercedes use mediums for Q1? If so, they could be short of one set of fresh mediums if the race turns out to be a 3-stopper?

Yes they did. But only for a couple of laps, I think they foresaw the problem you suggested.

[steferrari]

Quick q. I'm in Italy for a wedding (near brindisi) and was wondering if any of the below channels show the F1 live?

Rai Sport 1
Rai Sport 2
Eurosport Germany
SkySport1 (italian)
SkySport2 (italian)
SkySport3 (italian)

Thank you in advance!

In Italy you can see the race in Sky Sport F1 HD, which is channel 206.
It wont be on Rai.
Not sure about Eurosport Germany.

[stulbenis]

1) Webber 2) Alonso 3) Hamilton

[MortenF1]

I think the key to the race, for the top five on the grid, will of course be how long they can get reasonable performance from their options, but then, just as important, how quickly they can warm up their prime-tires, particularly the fronts. At this point in the race, the prime-runners - thinking about the Ferrari's and Rosberg mainly - will be well into their stride, and running fast. This point in the race, will be crucial.

[weltmeister1995]

1. Vettel 2. Hamilton 3. Grosjean 4. Alonso 5. Massa 6. Webber 7. Rosberg 8. Raikkonen 9. Button 10. Di Resta

You heard it here first.

If this happens I will be the most lucky person in the world...

[Niceone]

Is it true that no one has ever won starting with harder tyre option during Pirelli time(dry races)?

[AlexS]

Warning! Autosport countdown is wrong again, seems no one cares.

Race is in one hour not in two hours.

[Markn93]

Is it true that no one has ever won starting with harder tyre option during Pirelli time(dry races)?

Wow, that's a pretty amazing and completely understandable (when you think about it) stat.

[Niceone]

Wow, that's a pretty amazing and completely understandable (when you think about it) stat.

Yeah..Alonso has chance to make history

[robefc]

They will be flying though. RB, Lewis and Kimi could be in alot of trouble if the Ferraris are close come the end.

Here's how I see the race unfolding:

...

-If the Ferraris pit for the softs at the end, and have 8 laps with approx 10 seconds to the leader (very plausible) I think they'll be in with a great shout of the win.

...

Memories of vettel in china..

[Kimiraikkonen]

Hamilton´s car have a problem with fuel pump, how many positions he lost if he changes it?

[MortenF1]

None. It's OK to fix that in parc fermé.

[ixnay]

In Italy you can see the race in Sky Sport F1 HD, which is channel 206.
It wont be on Rai.
Not sure about Eurosport Germany.

Thank you. I can't access the Hd channel from this hotel tv. And I can't leave the hotel due to timing of wedding. Guess I'll keep fingers crossed for euros port Germany. Thanks again.

[ArkZ]

1) Webber 2) Alonso 3) Hamilton

I enjoyed the battle between them 2 years ago.

Edited by ArkZ, 07 July 2013 - 11:00.

[kosmos]

So track temperature is going to be close to 50ºC

[Vesuvius]

Excpecting strong race from both Lotuses,both red bulls and both ferraries...Hamilton to be in difficulties.

[artista]

Thank you. I can't access the Hd channel from this hotel tv. And I can't leave the hotel due to timing of wedding. Guess I'll keep fingers crossed for euros port Germany. Thanks again.

Eurosport Germany doesn't show F1. Sorry!

[Kelateboy]

1-2 for Ferrari is on the cards. Their tyre choice is interesting. They just need to stretch the first stint as long as possible and postpone their final stint on the option as much as possible.

I'll bet you $10 that Ferraris won't finish 1st and 2nd in the race today.

[Kelateboy]

So track temperature is going to be close to 50ºC

50C track temperature is going into uncharted territories....

[SR388]

Should I get waffle house before the race?

[steferrari]

Thank you. I can't access the Hd channel from this hotel tv. And I can't leave the hotel due to timing of wedding. Guess I'll keep fingers crossed for euros port Germany. Thanks again.

It also should be available in Sky channel 245, which is still the F1 channel but in standard definition... have a try.

Edited by steferrari, 07 July 2013 - 11:21.