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#1 DUFFY

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 08:37

I run the Rochdale Olympic History Archive for the Rochdale Owners Club and I am researching the racing history of the Rochdale Olympic.
Which is turning out to be a lot more racing than we thought in the past.

I believe a Rochdale Olympic ran at Aintree on the 28th September 1963, driven by D C Alderson.

Can anyone please help me with a results sheet and an entry list?
As I would like to know if it was in a Championship round, did the car have an Entrant and what was the cars racing number?

Regards
Tony

Also if anyone has photos, results sheets and entry lists of Rochdale Olympics racing in the 1960s and 1970s please contact me.

Edited by DUFFY, 08 July 2013 - 13:15.


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#2 Tim Murray

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:10

Tony, I know you know about this earlier thread, because you contributed to it, but for the possible benefit of others:

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#3 d j fox

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 15:32

Autosport (Oct 11th 1963) has a report of the 15th BARC Aintree Members' Meeting, held on the Club circuit.
"Event six , a 10 lap scratch race for GT cars, saw Derek Alderson take the lead by a bit of rather naughty pushing in his Rochdale Olympic, only to "lose it " in both senses in Country Corner. Derek Bennet (Lotus Elite) then took over a lead which he never lost, leaving Alderson to repent his sins as he worked his way back through the field to an excellent second place"
According to the excellent Heath/ Lawson Aintree results book Alderson raced No.61

Edited by d j fox, 09 July 2013 - 15:34.


#4 DUFFY

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:15

Thanks David for the above, it’s a bonus having a race report for the archive with a Rochdale Olympic playing a major role.
Now I know the race number here is a photo of the car from the archives.

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But I would still like a scan of the entry list for the archive if anyone has the race programme.

Regards
Tony

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:05

With the success of the above question I will try another.

I believe a Rochdale Olympic 1475cc ran at Brands Hatch on Boxing Day, December the 26th 1963, driven by Barry Wood.

Can anyone please help me with a results sheet and an entry list?

It is not the Barry Wood who raced Ginetta,s as when I spoke to Barry he never raced a Rochdale Olympic and also did not race on Boxing Day 1963.

Regards
Tony


#6 Sharman

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 12:44

With the success of the above question I will try another.

I believe a Rochdale Olympic 1475cc ran at Brands Hatch on Boxing Day, December the 26th 1963, driven by Barry Wood.

Can anyone please help me with a results sheet and an entry list?

It is not the Barry Wood who raced Ginetta,s as when I spoke to Barry he never raced a Rochdale Olympic and also did not race on Boxing Day 1963.

Regards
Tony


Was that the Barry Wood who worked with Paddy Gaston?

#7 Sharman

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 08:33

To try and progress this a little further, did the Ginetta Barry Wood drive a Shapecraft Elan?

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#8 DUFFY

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:10

I would please like to keep this topic to Rochdale Olympics.

To answer the above 2 posts I think Ginetta Barry Wood designed and raced the Shapecraft Elan when he owned Surbiton Motors and before that he worked for Paddy Gaston?

So can anyone please help me with a results sheet and an entry list for Brands Hatch on Boxing Day, December the 26th 1963,
so I can see if a Rochdale Olympic was racing that day.

Regards
Tony


#9 Sharman

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 15:44

I would please like to keep this topic to Rochdale Olympics.

To answer the above 2 posts I think Ginetta Barry Wood designed and raced the Shapecraft Elan when he owned Surbiton Motors and before that he worked for Paddy Gaston?

So can anyone please help me with a results sheet and an entry list for Brands Hatch on Boxing Day, December the 26th 1963,
so I can see if a Rochdale Olympic was racing that day.

Regards
Tony


I'm so sorry to have digressed, all I was trying to establish was "Which Barry Wood?".

#10 Rupertlt1

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 17:13

Please do not roast me if this is slightly off topic:

 

Motor Sport, May 1960, Page 398:

ROCHDALE with a difference. Modelled

mechanically on Alfa Guilietta. Healey-Sprite

engine, box, fullest mods, coils all round, hydraulics

15-in. wheels, full matching instruments, wood/

alloy wheel, Le Mans lights, 12 volts. £450 o.n.o.

Details: Staniforth, 7, Featherbank Mount,

Horsforth, Leeds.

 

This car was second in Class 5, Sports Cars up to 950 c.c., at the Burton Sprint, Leeds, 3 May 1959.

 

This would seem to be the second Rochdale raced by Allan Staniforth.

(The earlier Rochdale-Buckler was offered for sale in Motor Sport, February 1956.)

RGDS RLT



#11 Flathead

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 08:12

Yes Allan Staniforth, sadly no longer with us, did build and race an 1172 Formula Buckler Mk5 or 6 with Rochdale bodyshell. The car, built in 1954, still survives in the UK and has been awaiting restoration for some years.

 

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Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:53

O/T a little, I was quite taken by the Rochdale Climax GT at the Revival last year, to that spec from new, apparently. A brave effort although its narrow track  was probably a limiting factor, I suspect.

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#13 DUFFY

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 22:28

Hi Rupert,

 

Thanks for the reply. Definably no roasting from me as its all about racing Rochdale’s, it all helps with the past history.

When Allan Staniforth wrote a letter to the Rochdale Owners Club in the early 1980,s giving us details of his two Rochdales he said he always yearned for an Olympic.

 

Allan’s first Rochdale as the picture in the reply from Flathead was a Rochdale MKVI body.

 

The Rochdale for sale in MotorSport, May 1960 was a Rochdale GT, registration VWR 555.

 

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This GT was built during the winter of 1957 and raced during 1958 and 1959, and then it was sold in November 1960 to a 'friend of a friend'.

When so much thought and hard work had gone into building this car, it's a great shame that it has since been lost without trace.

So if anyone can help with information on this GT,s whereabouts since 1960 we would be grateful.

 

Allan also wrote a book called “Building a Gran Turismo Special” detailing the build of this GT. The book was advertised in MotorSport March 1960 page 212.

 

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If anyone would like more technical information on the Rochdale Climax GT at the Revival last year, below is a link.

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ29sNwN-zI

 

I thought it was going very well, I think the main limiting factor was the flat tyre.

 

At this time I still have no joy with my request for help with a results sheet and an entry list for the GT race at Brands Hatch on Boxing Day,

December the 26th 1963,
so I can see if a Rochdale Olympic was racing that day. Can anyone please help?

 

Ps) Rupert I have sent you a PM.

 

Regards Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives



#14 Morris S

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 15:48

Spent a happy couple of hours chatting with Nev Hodkin this week, he does have some old shots of his racing Rochdale and of course repeated a story I've heard a few times from the horses mouth about Harry Ratcliffe's short lived experience with one !



#15 Jake Alderson

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:22

Did you ever find an entry list for the 1963 Brands Hatch Boxing Day meeting?

I am also looking for one for the Gordon Spice Morgan entry.

Jake Alderson



#16 Doug Nye

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 17:19

What is the background story of the Rochdale GT which showed well before, sadly, rolling at Goodwood last weekend?

DCN

#17 Mistron

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Posted 02 April 2014 - 19:28

I think this is the same Rochdale as took a tumble at the weekend: http://fortyonesix.c...ved-for-revival

 

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#18 Jake Alderson

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Posted 06 April 2014 - 16:38

I now have a copy of the 1963 Brands Hatch Boxing Day meeting programme.

There was one Rochdale Olympic entered for Event 6, The John Davy Trophy Race 'A' for GT cars below 1600cc.

The driver was given as B A Wood and the engine capacity as 1475cc, and his race number was 44.

My programme is well annotated and there is a biro line through this entry suggesting Mr Wood withdrew

Hope this helps

Jake Alderson

 



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:16

Hi Jake,

 

Thanks for the above information, at least I now have confirmation of the entry. No good me looking for photos if it did not run, unless it ran in practice?

But I still cannot identify the Rochdale Olympic or Mr B A Wood. I do have a race report which of course does not mention the Olympic,

but does report on a Morgan +4 driven by Mr Arnold.

 

On seeing you name, Jake are you related to Derek C Alderson as mentioned in post 1 in this topic. Below is a little about him from the history of RMP.

 

Yet another milestone in the history of Rochdale Motor panels was Derek Alderson, a likeable and flamboyant character who always had a

host of interesting stories to tell. We first met him in the early Fifties when he brought cars in for repairs; he was then in business

repairing beer crates and forklift pallets. As time passed and our long-time friendship continued, he later opened a caravan site in Castleton, Rochdale.

Derek Alderson was the proprietor of the Rochdale firm, Vale Caravan Services, which grew into the largest caravan business in the area and

he competed in club racing in Lotus Elites during the late 1950s and early 1960s.

 

Ps) Jake I have sent you a PM.

 

Regards Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives.



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#20 Jake Alderson

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Posted 09 April 2014 - 16:22

Tony,

Sadly for you I am not related to the Rochdale Alderson, pity really as he sounds like fun!

Jake



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Posted 15 April 2014 - 19:38

Following on with the success I received with the last 2 enquiries on racing Rochdale Olympics (thank you the people who helped)

I thought I would try this more tenuous lead.

I was recently sent these 2 sets of photographs, found in a drawer of the same Olympic in crash mode. I believe they are from a film of the 1960s.

If anyone knows the name of the film we can give them the credit?

 

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I know it would help if I had the day and month, but the first photo is Oulton Park 1963, the car is no 131 and on the back is writtern C.P.Dobbs.

The second photo is Cadwell Park 1964, the no may be 39 and on the back is writtern T Stamp.

The Reg No I think is TVL 146 which is Lincoln from 1962. 

 

I also have the following dates where I think the same Olympic was entered?

 

1963 April ?? Snetterton

1963 Oct 12th Mallory Park   

1963 Dec 26th Mallory Park  

 

Can anyone please help me with an entry list, race report or a results sheet for any of the 5 dates?
 

Regards Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives

 

 



#22 Sharman

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Posted 15 April 2014 - 21:10

Tony

that same car appeared at Snet 05/05/63 P Dobbs, BUT showing as 948cc which is BMC A series, I was looking for Elva Courier details when I found it having Googled Malcolm Wayne whom I did not find but there was a full entry list. Sorry haven't  got the link.



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Posted 02 May 2014 - 14:36

I have just received a race report for a B.R.S.C.C. meeting at Rufforth on September 14th 1963.

The 1st race was for GT cars up to 2000cc, at the end of the race report it says.

 

‘This event saw the only bad crash of the day when P Dobbs lost his Rochdale Olympic at Boundary Curve, to roll end over end.

The car was damaged, but luckily not so the driver’.

 

So the 3 races I have a little knowledge of this car it has crashed, does the driver do this at every race?

If anyone has a programme for this race at Rufforth, I would please love a scan of the entry list page for this race for the history records.

 

Regards Tony Stanton, Compiler of the Rochdale Olympic History Archives.