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#51 crooky369

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 13:12

Quick Nic in the Xjr14 was awesome. I think the fastest lap he did was the first flyer after the pit stop.

Love the event but numbers of public seemed down to me. But then again £40+ to get in puts off the casual attendee. I saw £6.80 for a pork roll too! Glad I packed my own lunch.

But worth every penny just to see the BT44 alone.....drools


£40 is too much really and you feel as if they could knock off a tenner without the concert. I don't like that it's advance only either so you can't just go on a whim.

Moaning aside, not sure if it's known but Itv 4 are showing highlights of the race on August 15th:
http://www.northampt...creen-1-5324193

Also can anyone let me know what track layout the Group C cars were using on Sunday?

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#52 Ted Walker

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 13:38

Yes Phil that INDY CAR

#53 David Beard

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 13:47

Yes Phil that INDY CAR


:confused:

#54 Alan Cox

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 13:51

Yes Phil that INDY CAR

What's the story, Ted? Did it never run in F1 races? Or is it the Longhorn converted back to FW07 spec?
Is this it, by chance?
http://www.race-cars...02/fw0702ss.htm
http://www.race-cars...02/fw0702pp.htm

http://www.historicr...rs4sale/f1.html

Edited by Alan Cox, 29 July 2013 - 13:58.


#55 Tim Murray

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 13:52

Also can anyone let me know what track layout the Group C cars were using on Sunday?

All the races were run on the full Grand Prix circuit.

#56 john aston

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 17:14

£40 is too much really and you feel as if they could knock off a tenner without the concert. I don't like that it's advance only either so you can't just go on a whim.

Moaning aside, not sure if it's known but Itv 4 are showing highlights of the race on August 15th:
http://www.northampt...creen-1-5324193

Also can anyone let me know what track layout the Group C cars were using on Sunday?


Sorry but that is nonsense; I bought two tickets (one and a BOGOF )back in December. This got me car club entry - we had a stand near Village and cost me £85- just over 40 quid a ticket . For this I got three days of track action by over a thousand cars .Racing was 9am till late .Access all areas policy to two paddocks and endless stuff to look at. And you think the price should be even less ? Compare to a typical BTCC crashfest meeting -my local circuit charged twenty odd quid for one day- of droning spec formula saloons and pathetically small and dull support races.My local hillclimb charges a tenner and dragstrip twelve quid and whilst both are fun days out Silverstone's thirteen odd quid a day is the bargain and the highlight of my season.

For not much more than the price of a cinema ticket per day I really do think the Classic is brilliant value for money.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 17:30

Did anyone see the mechanics trying to recreate the 1981 Belgian GP at the start of the FIA Historic F1 race on Sunday, a rather heart-in-mouth moment...

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#58 FrankB

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 17:31

Sorry but that is nonsense; I bought two tickets (one and a BOGOF )back in December...

For not much more than the price of a cinema ticket per day I really do think the Classic is brilliant value for money.


Due to lots of things all happening at once we couldn't be sure on which day or days we'd be able to go, if we could go at all. It wasn't until a fortnight ago that we knew it would have to be Saturday; three tickets for one day - £163.20. The most irritating part was that the nominal cost was £50 each and could only be booked in advance - why then was there a £1.50 booking fee for each ticket, and also an administration charge? £50 each rapidly became more than £54 each with no alternative way of buying the tickets.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 18:41

Sorry but that is nonsense; I bought two tickets (one and a BOGOF )back in December. This got me car club entry - we had a stand near Village and cost me £85- just over 40 quid a ticket . For this I got three days of track action by over a thousand cars .Racing was 9am till late .Access all areas policy to two paddocks and endless stuff to look at. And you think the price should be even less ? Compare to a typical BTCC crashfest meeting -my local circuit charged twenty odd quid for one day- of droning spec formula saloons and pathetically small and dull support races.My local hillclimb charges a tenner and dragstrip twelve quid and whilst both are fun days out Silverstone's thirteen odd quid a day is the bargain and the highlight of my season.

For not much more than the price of a cinema ticket per day I really do think the Classic is brilliant value for money.



Agree, if you are in a car club that is by far the best value. Full price it does look a little expensive.

Lots of good racing; link to pics will follow - mine are from the stands so providing a different perspective to track level.



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#60 LotusElise

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 22:40

Dad noticed that there weren't any ticket promotions in the Telegraph or anywhere he reads this year. This was the first year that we paid full price.

I am inclined to agree with John: without the rain problems, Saturday would have had thirteen races, several of which were longer-format ones. This is far more than is on offer at the Revival, or at most historic meets.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 23:01

Agree, if you are in a car club that is by far the best value. Full price it does look a little expensive.

The Classic has always been the best attended event Silverstone has, other than the other one they pay out so much for...surely you understand :confused:

#62 Ted Walker

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 05:46

Alan. Yes thats it and NO it didnt

#63 Simon Arron

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:34

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Thought they had sorted the traffic jams out at Silverstone...

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I raise you one Cortina...

#64 David Beard

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:45

I raise you one Cortina...


Is somebody making new ones? It's incredible so many are still around!

#65 mfd

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 13:09

I raise you one Cortina...

You've shuffled too

#66 Alan Cox

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 15:23

Is somebody making new ones? It's incredible so many are still around!

As in the case of most 'historic' racing cars, I suspect the answer is 'Yes', David

#67 Tim Murray

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 15:48

... and all ex-Jim Clark, no doubt.  ;)

#68 simonlewisbooks

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 16:16

... and all ex-Jim Clark, no doubt. ;)


Shhhh! Don't tell Doug ! According to his own recent article in MOTOR SPORT he's had quite enough stress of late on the subject of what is and what ain't an ex Clark Lotus!

As the long time editor of the magazines used to say in one long-running column (continued over 7 pages in ever shorter columns and ever smaller typeset...) "Pity the Poor Historian" :cool:

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 17:57

All the races were run on the full Grand Prix circuit.


Without the Effone chicane before/at Vale of course :-)

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#70 Tim Murray

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 18:08

:blush:

(and I sat looking at that bit of track for most of the Sunday races, too)

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 19:31

:blush:

(and I sat looking at that bit of track for most of the Sunday races, too)


I won't tell anyone if you don't :smoking:

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:02

Apart from the racing, the paddock and the food, what were your views were on the trade village? This year ir was somewhat different having gone upmarket/Goodwoodesque in nature/price.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:06

Apart from the racing, the paddock and the food, what were your views were on the trade village? This year ir was somewhat different having gone upmarket/Goodwoodesque in nature/price.


We didn't even get to go round it. Where was it?

#74 simonlewisbooks

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:10

We didn't even get to go round it. Where was it?


:) Along the runway inside Copse...

#75 arttidesco

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:15

I remember Scarab's Grand Prix car had a Scarab engine and since the timekeepers' results have it as a "Scarab Offenhauser", it made it seem as if it were an Indanapolis job . . .


More on the Scarab here.

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#76 elansprint72

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:28

Here's a great photo gallery from Silverstone:

Always best just to post a link, if you are not the copyright holder.

#77 Allan Lupton

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:29

More on the [url="http://"%20<a%20href="http://www.psychoontyres.co.uk/american-beauty-scarab-3/""%20target="_blank">http://www.psychoont...-be...scarab-3/"</a>"]Scarab here[/url].

Do you mean here?

#78 arttidesco

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 20:59

Do you mean here?


Indeed thanks Allan :blush:

#79 john aston

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:43

Apart from the racing, the paddock and the food, what were your views were on the trade village? This year ir was somewhat different having gone upmarket/Goodwoodesque in nature/price.



I strolled round on Friday-it was OK but there did seem to be fewer stands than at previous Classics.Location was fine and doubtless there was plenty of stuff to buy if one is in the market , especially for that well known oxymoron (with few exceptions ) 'motoring art'.Old photo prints apart(which I love ) I do find most this stuff pretty ghastly but there is obviously a big market for endless moody shots of XK120s and wistful looking girls. Lots of Steve McQueen pornography too- not my thing at all !

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#80 Ted Walker

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:37

Like all these events IF you have the right product its OK

#81 Stephen W

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:29

On the subject of the cost of admission when I last went (several years back) I bought my ticket at the Stoneleigh show in February. The cost was minimal compared to the on-the-day price. However I have to admit the admission prices this year seem extravagant to say the least.

#82 simonlewisbooks

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:37

Like all these events IF you have the right product its OK

Agreed Ted, however the 400% rise in simple open-space stand prices (£220 to over £900) in the teeth of a recession seemed out of touch with reality. The £500+ ready-built marquees at 10 foot square were too small for many of us.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 11:28

I thought a grey Fergie looked a little incongruous in the Wing pit lane!

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#84 mfd

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 13:20

I thought a grey Fergie looked a little incongruous in the Wing pit lane!

You can't say it's not a classic David! Lovely photo of MH434, which always puts on a good show

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 13:42

I know what you mean David, the background of the new pit complex (...well almost any part of the revamped circuit really) looks at odds with almost anything that isn't very 'modern'. Goodwood it isn't . But then Goodwood hasn't had Bernie & co. to reckon with... :|

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 15:01



As promised, a few snaps from the weekend. Whilst the rain led to no Group C race on Saturday, it did at least provide some variety in shots of cars on grey tarmac !

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 15:23

If anyone's interested, there's a 1964 4 speed 4.7 litre Mustang for sale just round the corner from me...

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 21:25

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:06

Agreed Ted, however the 400% rise in simple open-space stand prices (£220 to over £900) in the teeth of a recession seemed out of touch with reality. The £500+ ready-built marquees at 10 foot square were too small for many of us.


Pretty much par for the course in my experience at Silverstone. It is probably 7 or 8 years since I last took a trade stand anywhere but it seems as though they are as much out of touch with reality as ever.

Back to the good old days of the Coys Festival the first couple of years I was there it cost £85 for a 25 sq. metre space, suddenly, out of the blue, this increased to around £1,500! In the last year I was doing external events they wanted, I think, £2,000 each for the Historic Festival (not a patch on Coys and much different to today's event) and the WSC race. We ended up paying a combined price of £500 for both events. Are they still open to negotiation when they realise that yet again they have shot themselves in the foot with their pricing policy?

I had hoped to take a stand again at some events this year. I looked at Goodwood but again the pricing seemed out of touch with what is possible. I think, judging by the trade stands the year before last, I could do well at the Revival, sadly various ongoing family health problems have taken the decision out of my hands.