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If Bernie's deposed, who should be the next F1 supremo? [renamed]


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#101 jcbc3

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 13:34

lol - He'll fit right in then.



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#102 Risil

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 13:49

 

Well that explains how Justin King's name got connected to F1.

 

 

 “[The board] concluded that no conflict arose and robust processes are in place to ensure Justin has no direct involvement in the commercial arrangements with these companies,” she said.

 

Thank God for that!


Edited by Risil, 29 January 2014 - 13:50.


#103 pdac

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 14:07

flav



#104 dau

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 15:04

I find it very unlikely that it will be anyone from within the F1 world. I would presume that CVC would look towards other sports for someone with similar experience to Bernie.

Sepp Blatter?



#105 Fastcake

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 16:10

Sepp Blatter?

 

Now that's too corrupt. Even F1 has a limit on crooks  ;)



#106 MaxisOne

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 16:18

Donald Fagen.
Jp

 

ROFLMO ... IGY was playing in my head was reading this thread.. 

 

Shakes head ..  :lol:



#107 flymo

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 16:26

Oh, "deposed".  I thought the subject read "decomposed".  It would explain a few things.



#108 chipmcdonald

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 20:28

Richard Branson, although I would say Lauda to me appears to be secretely playing "Bernie in training" IMO.  He's got deal maker business experience, real F1 experience, and current F1 experience.  


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#109 Markn93

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 20:29

I know this goes against conventional wisdom, but me!



#110 Amphicar

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 21:57

Speaking to the BBC, Mr King was asked if he would consider the role of boss of Formula One, should it become available - something which has been speculated upon.

He said: "I'm not ruling anything out, and not ruling it in… I'm still a young man, with plenty left in the tank. When the right things comes along I'll grab it with both hands."

Not exactly a denial is it? In fact by F1 standards its practically a confirmation - especially with that "plenty left in the tank" line.



#111 Risil

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 22:03

Okay so we have one hat in the ring.



#112 Jimisgod

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:17

Alain Prost. Wait, Lauda - as above


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#113 lustigson

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:25

Best guy for the job would probably be Ross Brawn.

 

Best relations with Bernie — and, thus, a promotor with CVD — is Christian Horner.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:46

Why would good relations with Bernie help with CVC? That would require a very good outcome -- like, total exoneration -- in the trial coming up. If Bernie's reputation (among pension fund types) is ruined, then if anything CVC would want a fresh start.



#115 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 12:50

Best guy for the job would probably be Ross Brawn.

 

 

Bernie's job is not at all technical in nature. 



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:17

Adam Parsons@AdamParsons11h

Justin King tells me he wouldn't work for any of @sainsburys rivals, and won't go to F1. Interview on @bbc5live at 8.45am

 

BBC Radio 5 live@bbc5live10m

Soon-to-be ex-Sainsbury's chief exec Justin King dismisses speculation he could be next #F1 boss - "I don't believe there's a vacancy there"



#117 jjcale

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:29

Bernie's job is not at all technical in nature. 

 

So Ross would be the right man then  ;)



#118 Buttoneer

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:34

King said something similar on the Today programme this morning.  When asked whether would go for another big role or motor racing, he thought it would be the big role.



#119 oetzi

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:36

I vote for Sir Humphrey.



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#120 jjcale

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:44

Why would good relations with Bernie help with CVC? That would require a very good outcome -- like, total exoneration -- in the trial coming up. If Bernie's reputation (among pension fund types) is ruined, then if anything CVC would want a fresh start.

 

I'm still betting that CVC gets out before BE does ....



#121 oetzi

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:46

I would if I were them.



#122 Lazy

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:07

Martin Whitmarsh ofc



#123 chunder27

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:57

I reckon Lauda, if you read some of teh Bernie books, other than Flav, Lauda is the guy he seems to spend a lot of time with.

 

I am not sure he is erm, politically correct enough!  But maybe that is a good thing. He is a successful businessman, but maybe has too many links with teams to be considered truly neutral.

 

but then you could say the same abotu Bernie.

 

No chance Branson as Bernie cant stand the sight of him, thought he was great getting into f1 but didnt spend any money on it was a token gesture hence the cold shoulder.

 

No chance Dennsi for the same reason, Bernie and he do not get on, and surely no matter what happens legally Bernie will have a say in this decision?



#124 oetzi

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:10

Martin Whitmarsh ofc

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#125 Richard T

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:24

Oh my god, if only Tamara got the gig after Bernie  :drunk:  

 

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#126 SophieB

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 18:15

More rumours, this time from Kevin Eason of The Times about Christian Horner being in the frame again. You can read the pay-per-view or subs article here: http://www.thetimes....icle4016032.ece or read ESPN's brief summary
 
From the ESPN article:
 

while CVC chairman Donald Mackenzie, who has the ruling share of the Delta Topco holding company, remains committed to Ecclestone for the time being, it appears a consensus is forming around Horner should Ecclestone lose his court case or retire in the near future.

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Horner's appointment is not as simple as it might seem. It might be opposed by the likes of Ferrari president - and Delta Topco board member - Luca di Montezemolo, and is believed to be frowned upon by many of the top teams on the grid.


The Times sticks its neck out way more and says the move "would be vigorously opposed by Luca di Montezemolo..."



#127 Hans V

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 20:35

Zak Brown. No question. Listen to the latest Racers Edge podcast where he and Peter Windsor talks F1. Brilliant guy!

Horners been on easy street during his entire F1 carreer, bathing in Red Bull money and needs to show he can lead through tough times before he can even be considered to manage the Piranha-club. Zak Brown OTOH is a racer and a very successful deal-maker, perfect for this job.

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#128 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 20:40

I love that The Times talks about how charming Horner is. I wonder what a quick poll of F1 bosses would say  :p



#129 Fastcake

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 20:43

I'm really not buying the Horner rumours, I just do not see a current team principal being appointed by CVC, let alone going down well with Monty and the crew. My two pennies would still be on someone from the external sport world.



#130 404KF2

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 20:55

Homer Simpson!



#131 ANF

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 21:13

I have no idea who will be next, but I think Maurice Hamilton is right when he says "it's going to take at least two or three people to do what Bernie Ecclestone does".



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 21:19

If Roger Penske still had a hand in F1, he would be perfect. Not being in F1 now might even make him a better fit. But being American would rule him out, I'm sure.



#133 Rich

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 22:26

There is only one candidate really - N. Srinivasan. We're all sick of Tilke tracks, right? Well, fear not, the days of 2X kilometre long straights separated by a hairpin would be over if Srinivasan got his way. As is his wont, he would order all countries to produce tracks with little pace but plenty of turn.

 

Of course, Ferrari might balk at the notion of being renamed the Maranello Mules. The drivers and engineers might resent going into an auction each year. And the stewards would certainly wonder aloud why they weren't allowed to watch TV replays of incidents on the track, to help them reach a correct decision. But I feel these are just minor details which could be resolved with minimum fuss if the correct people received bulging brown envelopes timeously.



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 22:28

I reckon Lauda, if you read some of teh Bernie books, other than Flav, Lauda is the guy he seems to spend a lot of time with.

 

Bernie wouldn't wish this job on one of his friends



#135 DanardiF1

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:18

I can't believe no-one has mentioned the most obvious candidate.... Mansoor Ijaz!



#136 Disgrace

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:20

Brilliant idea. Then we can replace the grid girls with a bunch of these guys.

 

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The number of pizzas designates the car number, obviously.



#137 George Costanza

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:23

Ross Brawn?



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 06:55

http://en.espnf1.com...ory/147933.html

 

A surprisingly intelligent, by F1 journalistic standards, view of the situation.


Edited by Lazy, 07 March 2014 - 06:55.


#139 Rinehart

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 08:54

^ Yup, my vote goes to Sir Martin Sorrell to succeed Bernie. The owners of and F1 itself needs a more corporate leader with track record who can maximise the potential of F1 through modern media. 

 

Horner is a ridiculous suggestion, I can see why Bernie would want a puppet in the seat but I can't see Horner wanting it or being qualified in any way shape or form. 



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 17:46

Bernie will not be replaced, first of all CVC will bail out, if they have an inch of brain they will know the whole business was built around Bernie and will take years for the replacements to get a grip. That equals devaluation and most lilkely Bernie already told CVC to follow him on the way out.

 

As to who will take the bits. It all points out to a another FOCA unless the FIA decides to revive FISA and do a takeover, unlikely. Teams will pick up the rights and drive the house of cards to the ground, THEN they will find someone to run F1 on their behalf.

 

As to who should, needs to be someone big enough to face up the teams and fans and say "we do this now, I pay you this now, shut up and gtfo". Anyone from the padock has a bad past with someone and in my opinion isn't really up to the job. It needs to be someone with experience with egos and be someone who isn't a figure head in F1.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 17:59

Bernie will not be replaced, first of all CVC will bail out, if they have an inch of brain they will know the whole business was built around Bernie and will take years for the replacements to get a grip. That equals devaluation and most lilkely Bernie already told CVC to follow him on the way out.

 

As to who will take the bits. It all points out to a another FOCA unless the FIA decides to revive FISA and do a takeover, unlikely. Teams will pick up the rights and drive the house of cards to the ground, THEN they will find someone to run F1 on their behalf.

 

As to who should, needs to be someone big enough to face up the teams and fans and say "we do this now, I pay you this now, shut up and gtfo". Anyone from the padock has a bad past with someone and in my opinion isn't really up to the job. It needs to be someone with experience with egos and be someone who isn't a figure head in F1.

CVC will sell but they had to wait until they had killed FOTA. The sacking of MW, the only person holding FOTA together, was the end game in that process imo. With a strong FOTA the business value was badly diminished because of the possibility of a breakaway, now they should get a good price. Thanks to Horner, Ferrari and now, by the looks of it, Dennis.



#142 Longtimefan

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 18:37

Jo Ramirez, he'd get F1 back as it 'should be'.


It's a shame uncle Ken is no longer with us, he'd be perfect imo.

#143 Nemo1965

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 19:14

I think that Bernie should not be replaced, because... his position per se is wrong. Look, I admire what the guy has done between 1973 and 1982. He has really put the sport forward, made it a global sport. But after the whole Concorde-agreement most of his moves have been detrimental to the sport, while most of the FIA have done was to the benefit of the sport, certainly regarding safety. 

 

The financial monopoly of Ferrari and Red Bull are the fault of Ecclestone playing his macchiavellian (is that spelled right?) game. And to be honest, he is even't good at THAT game anymore. How else could he have let the debacle of Indianopolis happen, the courtcase against himself, and soforth...

 

No, I think that a good idea would be to have a commission of ALL the teamboses with equal votes rule F1 together with the FIA. 



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 19:25

I imagine that somewere there's this insanely rich hardcore F1 fan that will buy the commercrial rights and just run it like a true sport. 



#145 Jackmancer

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 20:21

Gerhard Berger? Niki Lauda? 

 

Probably not, but I wouldn't mind.

 

My ideal candidate would be Eddie Irvine.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 20:45

Other = JonPollak

#147 DampMongoose

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 20:55

Any mentions of Christian Horner get me everytime.... Negotiations along the line of "C'mon Hockenheim this is silly"


Edited by SpeedyLemur, 07 March 2014 - 20:57.