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#1 jrg19

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 21:13

Current drivers who have won at the hungaroring:

Lewis Hamilton 2007, 2009, 2012

Jenson Buton 2006, 2011

Mark Webber 2010

Kimi Raikkonen 2005

Fernando Alonso 2003


Guess its a good opportunity for Sebastian to break his duck.

Seb, Lewis, Kimi and Fernando only previous pole sitters on the grid.

Between Mercedes and RedBull in qualifying this weekend, its going to be a scorcher.


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#2 Atreiu

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 21:32

Life was hard enough for Mercedes when they had mileage on the tyres, I guess it won't suddenly get better now. The race can very likely be decided by where they qualify and whom they roadblock.

If Vettel manages to snatch another win while another non-contender finished second, people can direct nearly all of their effort into the 2014 projects. Alonso and Kimi really need to win this one or count on luck for something else.

And it might be worth putting some money on Kimi and/or Alonso. http://www.skybet.com/formula-1
Who knows???

Edited by Atreiu, 25 July 2013 - 22:11.


#3 jrg19

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 21:34

Any extra tyres in practice for the teams?

#4 weareracing

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 22:40

If the heat continues, expect a better than usual qualifying performance from the Lotus team.
I'm interested to see how Force India, McLaren and Toro Rosso perform, the "heat" is on in the mid-field :smoking:

#5 TomNokoe

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 23:37

Hungary is very much like Canada for Hamilton, he's electric around here but he either has awesome races or disasters.

#6 Menace

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 23:42

Kimi has I believe 6 podiums including a win in 10 visits at this track, should be a great weekend for the Lotus duo!

Edited by Menace, 25 July 2013 - 23:42.


#7 SamH123

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:28

Going to reach 33c and be sunny today
We should learn a lot about the cars, will be interesting to see Merc's long stint :cool:

#8 Lone

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:45

Kimi has I believe 6 podiums including a win in 10 visits at this track, should be a great weekend for the Lotus duo!

And from his last 5 races here he has 4 podium finishes.

#9 Grundle

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:58

Going to reach 33c and be sunny today
We should learn a lot about the cars, will be interesting to see Merc's long stint :cool:

Those 5 laps will be interesting :drunk:

#10 JamesHunt

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 07:59

Its 10AM in Hungary and the track temperature is already 40 degrees!

#11 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:01

The track looks really dry and brown. Shows how hot it's been there.

#12 DracoN

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:20

Who is gonzales ?

#13 SamH123

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:42

Williams & Mclaren revival with new tires??? 1 and 2 currently :p :p



#14 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:44

Williams & Mclaren revival with new tires??? 1 and 2 currently :p :p


Or driving with lower fuel load like usually...

#15 Shiroo

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:44

Williams & Mclaren revival with new tires??? 1 and 2 currently :p :p

not really. The track evolution is so rapid that Raikkonne had Purple all and after few laps he was beaten by Williams and McLaren.

There is simply no way that Williams could improve that much. It is all thanks to the track and removing the dust from it / adding some rubber

#16 SamH123

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:47

not really. The track evolution is so rapid that Raikkonne had Purple all and after few laps he was beaten by Williams and McLaren.

There is simply no way that Williams could improve that much. It is all thanks to the track and removing the dust from it / adding some rubber


I was kind of joking hence the smileys
Still, it's rare to see Mclaren leading half way through

#17 Kelateboy

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:48

Vettel has issues with his brake?

#18 TomNokoe

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:53

McLaren are good in the last sector it seems, I know it's early days though.

#19 Markn93

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:56

Alonso is monstrous through S2.

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#20 sock22

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:56

The close competitiveness of this session is reminiscent of last year. A result of the new tyres perhaps? It's early days, but I don't remember an FP1 like this in 2013.

#21 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:58

Alonso is monstrous through S2.


Could be lighter fuel load, this is just practise but surely Alonso will be good competitor this weekend.

#22 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 08:59

The close competitiveness of this session is reminiscent of last year. A result of the new tyres perhaps? It's early days, but I don't remember an FP1 like this in 2013.


Could be yes but this is a very short track so times should be close here.

Edited by Vesuvius, 26 July 2013 - 08:59.


#23 Markn93

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:02

Merc haven't got it in S2 as of now, 0.5 down on Alonso.

#24 SamH123

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:02

Merc losing time in S2 it seems

#25 Markn93

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:04

Hamilton long run? Was in the pits for a while and wouldn't surprise me after missing the YDT.

Think so.

Edited by Markn93, 26 July 2013 - 09:05.


#26 Baddoer

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:08

McLaren looks pretty useful

#27 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:10

Lotus looking strong on final sector and strong anyway as well as they are usually never high on timesheets on fp1.it even looked that on his best timed lap Kimi didn't even use DRS when he started the lap.

Edited by Vesuvius, 26 July 2013 - 09:11.


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:12

Haven't heard any complaints about graining or tyres falling apart. Have to wait until the options are run to know for sure but the heat doesn't seem to be destroying the tyres in the manner I imagined they would.


#29 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:13

Haven't heard any complaints about graining or tyres falling apart. Have to wait until the options are run to know for sure but the heat doesn't seem to be destroying the tyres in the manner I imagined they would.


Well these are medium tyres, none has tried softs yet and it's not as hot yet as it will be....plus tyres are last years spec with this years compounds so they should be fine.

Edited by Vesuvius, 26 July 2013 - 09:14.


#30 Kelateboy

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:17

Haven't heard any complaints about graining or tyres falling apart. Have to wait until the options are run to know for sure but the heat doesn't seem to be destroying the tyres in the manner I imagined they would.

I don't believe graining would be an issue here. Overheating would be the main culprit rather than graining.

#31 Kelateboy

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:18

Well these are medium tyres, none has tried softs yet and it's not as hot yet as it will be....plus tyres are last years spec with this years compounds so they should be fine.

They will probably not try softs in FP1. They have to return 1 set of primes after FP1 and the options could be better used in FP2 where the track temperature will be closer to qualifying and the race.

#32 Fangiola

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:21

Not sure where Mercedes are at the moment. they seem to be following a totally different program

#33 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:22

They will probably not try softs in FP1. They have to return 1 set of primes after FP1 and the options could be better used in FP2 where the track temperature will be closer to qualifying and the race.


Yes I know they always do it like that and also because fp2 is closer to what the weather will be during quali/race.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:22

I don't believe graining would be an issue here. Overheating would be the main culprit rather than graining.


I thought you could get graining when temperatures are too high as well as too cold. Wasn't it a major problem in Bahrain?

#35 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:23

Not sure where Mercedes are at the moment. they seem to be following a totally different program


They are the fastest as usual, driving with very heavy car but when quali comes they are on top or close at least.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:28

They are the fastest as usual, driving with very heavy car but when quali comes they are on top or close at least.

Not so sure about that (looking at the timesheets). Redbull looking hand though with these new tyres

#37 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:29

Right rear puncture for Kimi...

#38 DutchQuicksilver

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:29

New tyres good for Williams as well so it seems. 10th and 12th at the moment.

#39 Baddoer

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:29

Fine. Tyres are falling apart already.

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#40 JamesHunt

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:31

Lotus with a puncture :eek:

#41 Sakae

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:32

This we do not see too often; in FP1 Sebi at the top? Something wrong here. :D

Edited by Sakae, 26 July 2013 - 09:37.


#42 Fangiola

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 09:32

Lotus with a puncture :eek:


The tyre whisperers get a puncture on the new hardened Pirellis (Ironic)

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 10:51

Not really sure where this goes but anyway:

Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 2m
#F1 Bizarre scenes on the screen. Ecclestone has taken the drivers out for a walk to the grandstands. Total chaos. http://t.co/LYJApYhbXp

A bit of clarity:

James Allen ‏@Jamesallenonf1 3m
#f1 Amazing scene - Bernie has taken Ham, Vet, Ros & Alo to a grandstand for underprivileged kids at Hungaroring! Signing & posing for pics

Edited by Markn93, 26 July 2013 - 10:54.


#44 MortenF1

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:10

Hmmh! Has he forced this upon them? I know most of them would be happy to do such a thing, normally, but right in the middle of two practise sessions?

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:14

Hmmh! Has he forced this upon them? I know most of them would be happy to do such a thing, normally, but right in the middle of two practise sessions?

Possibly. Bernie has to go on the charm offensive and paint a good picture of himself ahead of his impending trial . Nothing better than schmoozing with the kids. :)

Edited by Fangiola, 26 July 2013 - 11:14.


#46 DanardiF1

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:15

Bernie trying to paint himself as the good guy before he has to go before the judge in Germany...

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:16

Possibly. Bernie has to go on the charm offensive and paint a good picture of himself ahead of his impending trial . Nothing better than schmoozing with the kids. :)


:) I was thinking exactly the same!

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:30

I've been working outside this noon, it's around 33 degrees where I live and it's been close to unbearable really. I can only imagine what it'll be like this weekend for the pitcrews, marshalls and spectators with temps approaching the 40s in Hungary...

#49 Vesuvius

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:30

The suspected slow puncture on Kimi's rear tyre was not found to be a puncture in checks Lotus did, according to Tueun Sanomat.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:31

James Allen ‏@Jamesallenonf1 3m
#f1 Amazing scene - Bernie has taken Ham, Vet, Ros & Alo to a grandstand for underprivileged kids at Hungaroring! Signing & posing for pics


And Kimi?. :rotfl: