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#201 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 22:44

I was pedalling my FF round Silverstone one Wednesday when I was overtaken by Rodriguez in his BRM...


That's tough to improve on.

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#202 jj2728

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 23:57

A real snooze fest....wake me up when there's some real racing and the cars don't look like whored-up toads....

#203 jonpollak

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:19

Chip face plant

His was the only incident of the race..
Surprised there is no animated .gif yet
Here's cheap video instead.

I was pedalling my FF round Silverstone one Wednesday when I was overtaken by Rodriguez in his BRM...

Good god Bloggsworth , you ARE old.

A real snooze fest....wake me up when there's some real racing and the cars don't look like whored-up toads....

That's what you said in the other thread
Jp

#204 Afterburner

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 01:48

Was pretty cool to see Kimball win. Not the most exciting race, but enjoyable anyway.

EDIT: %#*&ing touch screen. :lol:

Edited by Afterburner, 05 August 2013 - 02:21.


#205 teejay

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:29

A win for diabetes!

-note - am diabetic.

#206 packapoo

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 03:36

Good result to see, was starting to dispair of Charlie.
Always one of my favourite tracks.

#207 anbeck

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:33

I actually enjoyed that race, although others seem to have found it boring.
I always like it when strategies are mixed, and it is especially rewarding to see the more aggressive one win (in this case).

I don't find the Push2Pass very transparent. The first time I consciously saw it on screen, it was to announce that Kimball only has 1 P2P left. I wonder what the drivers did with their P2Ps in the first 80 laps of the race. Or did I just not pay enough attention?

But I wonder how Dixon, Power, et al. could actually think for a second that their strategy could have won them the race? It was off by 30 seconds or something! How do they actually calculate the strategies? Do they use the Yi Jing?

So do we now have 175 laps of Mid-Ohio without a yellow flag?

#208 Thomas99

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 07:38

Power's season has been so ****ing awful

I assume the top 2 are really the only ones left in contention. Go Dixon.

#209 billm99uk

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 09:30

I actually enjoyed that race, although others seem to have found it boring.


It started out looking like a fuel saving race and was a bit dull, but I thought it really livened up towards the end :up:

#210 expert

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 13:09

Dixie made an incredible hash of his strategy. First picked the wrong one. Then compounded by changing too late to a 3 stopper. Then inexplicably stopping early on the last stop to end up behind EVERYONE. That was the really perplexing one. Dario manage to end up 3rd when before that they were together all race.



#211 HaydenFan

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 13:29

But I wonder how Dixon, Power, et al. could actually think for a second that their strategy could have won them the race? It was off by 30 seconds or something! How do they actually calculate the strategies? Do they use the Yi Jing?


The 2 stop meant that they were relying on upwards of 10+ caution laps. Would have made the strategy work perfectly, but when the race went green for 90 laps, it created a situation like the Spanish GP of this year. Conserving fuel and tires just wasn't going to win the race. That much saving would have dropped you behind too far to reap any benefits from one less pit stop. Charlie and Pagenaud went at 100% for the entire race and that is where their time over the 3 stoppers came from.

#212 jonpollak

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 15:29

Gordon Kirby's take on Kimball's win.
http://www.motorspor...st-indycar-win/

Jp

#213 Disgrace

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 16:42

Well done Kimball, he's been noticeably improving from race to race, well deserved.

Another disappointing outcome for the championship though. Helio is gonna win it by being invisible for most of the year..


Really? He's only finished outside the top 10 once all season. Pretty much unrivalled consistency.

Momentous win for Kimball, not least of all because they'll be changing his commercial's opening line. :eek:

#214 paulb

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 17:48

so Charlie is the first diabetic-american to win an Indycar race?

what about the incident in qualifying between Reay and Visio when Reay pushed Visio to the outside of a turn? It looked like a douche move on Reays part without seeing what happened before.

#215 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 17:56

I think what happened after* was more relevant :lol:




*Viso being a turd to the race leaders

#216 paulb

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:18

I thought he was going to ruin Kimballs race. So they don't have blue flags in Indycar?

#217 greenman

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:21

Really? He's only finished outside the top 10 once all season. Pretty much unrivalled consistency.

Well yeah that's what I meant. He's super consistent, but very under the radar for the most part. Not counting TO#2, this has been something like a fourth race in the row where I haven't seen him for most of the race, only for him to wind up in the top 10 by the end of the race.

#218 SR388

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:28

Disappointed that Sato did so poorly.

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:35

Disappointed that Sato did so poorly.


He's been nowhere since the Indy 500. It's a real shame, the series kicks up a gear when he's at the front. :(

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#220 racinggeek

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:37

so Charlie is the first diabetic-american to win an Indycar race?


Well, in his report on Speed's "Speed Center" Sunday night, Robin Miller said Don Branson was a Type 1 diabetic, and he had a few USAC championship car wins. (Plan to ask about this over in The Nostalgia Forum, 'cuz I'd never heard this before.)

Kimball's had himself a nice season so far -- could, probably should have won Pocono, and he's been quick at a few other races this year. Nice, deserved win, now let's see if this is a springboard for him.

#221 SR388

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 18:59

He's been nowhere since the Indy 500. It's a real shame, the series kicks up a gear when he's at the front. :(


He had potential at the Mile and Pocono.

Luckily it seems as though AJ ins interested in retaining his services for next year. I assume Sato would have to stay with a Honda team?

#222 Andrew Hope

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 22:57

Didn't take him long to find a new ride.

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#223 HaydenFan

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Posted 05 August 2013 - 23:40

I thought he was going to ruin Kimballs race. So they don't have blue flags in Indycar?


Until he really became a problem, when Pagenaud came out running right in front of Kimball did Viso become an issue. He was running pretty well in front of Kimball and IMO, a blue flag wouldn't have done much as Viso would just fight to take his lap back (and risk taking out Kimball, which the officials would know).

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Andrew, but he cannot afford tires, as the rears as using casters. Poor guy fell far didn't he?

Edited by HaydenFan, 05 August 2013 - 23:43.


#224 Prost1997T

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 00:38

I thought he was going to ruin Kimballs race. So they don't have blue flags in Indycar?


They do. It's much more difficult to spot them at a place like Mid-Ohio though.

#225 Pikachu Racing

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:17

Disappointed that Sato did so poorly.


He lost season edge when Hinchcliffe passed him on the last lap taking away a win

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:32

He's been nowhere since the Indy 500. It's a real shame, the series kicks up a gear when he's at the front. :(


That's prolly cause we're all waiting to see how he's going to toss it. :drunk:

#227 packapoo

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:34

I think what happened after* was more relevant :lol:




*Viso being a turd to the race leaders


Here's hoping - not seen anything but Viso does appear to need some counselling.

#228 Bleu

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:18

So do we now have 175 laps of Mid-Ohio without a yellow flag?


Plus the amount of laps they ran green at the end of 2011 event. (don't remember the amount)

Edited by Bleu, 06 August 2013 - 08:18.


#229 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:02

He lost season edge when Hinchcliffe passed him on the last lap taking away a win


I don't think they're connected. I think other people probably started figuring out the tires.

#230 Wander

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 11:10

Has Sato ever been consistent?

#231 Prost1997T

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:08

No. Pikachu's partly correct, Sato has relatively little of note since the race at Sao Paulo.

#232 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:26

I don't think it has to do with the pass though.

And he easily could have won Milwaukee.

#233 Prost1997T

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:37

And he easily could have won Milwaukee.


Hence "relatively little". Five consecutive races classified 20th or below must be a record even considering Sato's 2010 season. :drunk:

Edited by Prost1997T, 06 August 2013 - 12:40.


#234 billm99uk

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 12:51

A real snooze fest....wake me up when there's some real racing and the cars don't look like whored-up toads....


What does a whored-up toad look like? :confused:

#235 Afterburner

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 13:44

What does a whored-up toad look like? :confused:

Apparently a DW-12. :p

#236 paulb

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 15:49

Apparently a DW-12. :p


sort of enduro kart-ish

#237 anbeck

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 16:56

Plus the amount of laps they ran green at the end of 2011 event. (don't remember the amount)


According to this the final green was for 26 laps, so we are at 201 caution-free laps!

#238 greenman

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 18:13

Sato has shown speed in some of the previous races, but has been outpaced by Carpenter on Sunday. Ed Carpenter FFS!

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 22:11

Really enjoyed that one despite the lack of amusing incidents (unless you count the quick drivers on the go-slow strategies getting beaten by the slow drivers on the go-quick strategies, which was pretty amusing). Kimball was flawless and Castroneves might just win the championship this year after all. NBC Sports did a fabulous job with the coverage -- an Indycar fuel mileage race where I actually felt like I knew what was going on. It would be just like Indycar to sign up with ESPN now. Two things that penetrated my consciousness:

1) Charlie Kimball was born in the same hospital as me.

2) Why does Helio look directly into the camera lens when he's giving interviews? It creeps me out.

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#240 Andrew Hope

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 23:26

2) Why does Helio look directly into the camera lens when he's giving interviews? It creeps me out.


Because he's talking to your soul.