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#1001 saudoso

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 20:34

After a long struggle I managed to upgrade IE in my system from 9 to 11 (btw, if someone is stuck with IE10/11 failing to start drop me a line, took me an year to fix it by myself since none of the suggestions google brought me worked).

 

On the bright side I got my simileys back and the memory leak is gone.

 

But more often than not I can't quote or post images. And sometimes I just cant type in the text boxes around here.


Edited by saudoso, 15 May 2014 - 20:35.


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#1002 ReWind

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 18:38

Please have a look at that post (# 46):
Do you find Alain Prost (b. 24 Feb 1955)?
Okay.
Now click on the "Quote" button at the bottom of that post.
And tell me whether you still find Alain Prost (or anyone else born between January 28 and March 18, 1955) or not.
 
I am waiting for your answers and an explanation for the strange behaviour of the new forum software.
 
Thank you.

 

 

EDIT:

Just in case that someone still follows my suggestion and wonders what I am talking about:

Meanwhile I copied and pasted the content of the post - but without the ominous links (see post # 1007) - and that seems to have been the cure for the problem.


Edited by ReWind, 14 July 2014 - 15:36.


#1003 Ksharp

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Posted 03 June 2014 - 07:29

Major LOL with Internet Explorer options - I'm not able to copy and paste. The previous consideration of paid subscription is gone. 



#1004 Roger Clark

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:00

Has there been a change recently to the forum login process? I usually go in through the Autosport.com home page (because I'm a subscriber and I avoid adverts that way). I have found recently that I have to login again when I go to the forum home page.

#1005 David Lawson

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 14:51

I am a subscriber and always click on forums through the Autosport home page, it hasn't asked me to log in again so I guess they haven't changed anything.

 

David



#1006 Zmeej

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:22

Mr. Clark :wave:

 

IIRC, whether you were a subscriber or not, you always had to login to access the Paddock Club,

as membership in the PC is independent of subscription.

 

However, if you logged in once with the "Remember me" box checked, then every iteration of the software,

even the latest, has allowed you to skip this step, as long as you don't clear your cookies.

 

If you do clear cookies, then you essentially have to re-accept them.

 

The other fora don't require membership, and so don't require a login in any case.



#1007 ANF

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 18:21

Please have a look at that post (# 46):

Do you find Alain Prost (b. 24 Feb 1955)?

Okay.

Now click on the "Quote" button at the bottom of that post.

And tell me whether you still find Alain Prost (or anyone else born between January 28 and March 18, 1955) or not.

 

I am waiting for your answers and an explanation for the strange behaviour of the new forum software.

 

Thank you.

It looks to me like this is caused by apostrophes in some or the URLs at racingsportscars.com. The first one appears in "Jun'ichi-Ikura-J.html". The forum software apparently treats this apostrophe as a closing quotation mark, shortening the URL to "Jun'. As there is another quotation mark after .html, the A tag isn't closed properly and the whole list of drivers down to the next apostrophe in the post – in the URL of François O'Born – is interpreted as part of the link to Ikura's page.



#1008 ReWind

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 14:00

Thanks for your input, ANF.

 

The strange thing is that I edited that post for the last time on May 28. At the Alain Prost entry I changed a dead link for a valid one.

Everything was okay then.

 

Two days later I intended to insert some new entries (people born in 1955). That day I noticed that all the entries between January 28 and March 18 (which had been in perfect condition just two days earlier) were not visible anymore when I opened the window for editing.

 

I am totally sure that I did not change anything at the Ikura resp. O'Born entries.

 

So the mystery is, what happened between May 28 and May 30?

 

I would appreciate it if someone from the AUTOSPORT staff or the IT systems would care about this.



#1009 Grayson

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 16:18

So the mystery is, what happened between May 28 and May 30?

 

I would appreciate it if someone from the AUTOSPORT staff or the IT systems would care about this.

 

There was definitely no change from our end between 28th May and 30th May. I tried to work out an answer when you first posted this a couple of weeks ago I'm afraid that I can't shed any light on this...



#1010 HP

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:01

Thanks for your input, ANF.

 

The strange thing is that I edited that post for the last time on May 28. At the Alain Prost entry I changed a dead link for a valid one.

Everything was okay then.

 

Two days later I intended to insert some new entries (people born in 1955). That day I noticed that all the entries between January 28 and March 18 (which had been in perfect condition just two days earlier) were not visible anymore when I opened the window for editing.

 

I am totally sure that I did not change anything at the Ikura resp. O'Born entries.

 

So the mystery is, what happened between May 28 and May 30?

 

I would appreciate it if someone from the AUTOSPORT staff or the IT systems would care about this.

Did you use the same computer, same browser, same browser version?

 

The reason I am asking is because right now this modern way of editing pages has huge issues with different browsers. For example. You create a message with Firefox, and even on the same computer you later edit a message using Chrome, you might miss info, or even if everything appears to be fine, after editing in Chrome, later when you view the same page with Firefox again info might be missing. And then add the other browsers into the fold, and the problem compounds. Also since browsers like Chrome usually make silent updates, they  might fix an issue, but if you edit then things might go wrong.These are bugs that drive developers (i do develop webpages, but not this one) nuts, because they are nearly impossible to track down, and even less so fixable, because these issues often originate in different browsers.

 

The problem is that these days certain browser vendors are doing exactly what they themselves condemned Microsoft for. Adding new features all the time (especially webkit based browsers)  just to be ahead of everyone else. But they often break things, and any IT department can't use all their time to develop workarounds for every brain fart from browser developers.. Probably the scariest thing I've seen is with IOS6. Not in terms what it could do, but what it left out, and so people using that one are missing out.

 

Probably the best advice that I can give is: Create a message and don't ever edit it if you can. For yourself use the same browser, all the time if you can. Others might still have troubles viewing your stuff. So is life..

So when I post things I purposely steer clear from any formatting or inserting whatever, as chances grow exponentially that things go wrong.

 

In short: Web 2.0 locks fancy, but under the hood it sucks. The resaon is before there was only Microsoft and Netscape. Now there are a few players more, where everybody does what they think is best for them.



#1011 ReWind

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:19

@HP: The ominous post exists since 2011 and got updated umpteenth times. I always use Firefox, and between May 28 and May 30 there were no different versions.

 

To not edit a post like that is no option because a list of life dates is of course a work in motion.

 

But at the moment the problem is solved (see the editing of post # 1002).



#1012 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:05

Dont know as this is the right place. The search function again is useless. I tried to search 'Bill Patterson'  and got ONE answer. Actually the page that it is on has his name mentioned a couple of times. And there is several threads with his name mentioned.

The search was never good before the 'upgrade' and since has been totally useless.

Could the site admin people please do something with this,,, PLEASE



#1013 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:13

Select the little gear next to the search box (I find the defaults useless unless searching for members or searching in a thread)

at Find Words type in "Bill Paterson" with quotation marks

At Match select Only Search in Content

at Find in Forum scroll down to The Nostalgia Forum

at Display Results check As Posts

hit Search Now and you should get Your search for the term "bill patterson" returned 331 results



#1014 GMiranda

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 13:27

I have a question: How can I put a topic in printing mode and print it in a whole?


Edited by GMiranda, 05 August 2014 - 13:27.


#1015 Vitesse2

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 15:07

I have a question: How can I put a topic in printing mode and print it in a whole?

There is no longer a print version option Guilherme. You will need to use a 'virtual printer': the easiest I know of is CutePDF Writer, which converts the entire page into PDFs and then asks you where you wish to save it on your computer. I also use a Firefox extension called Print Edit which can remove anything you don't want printed first: it can also produce PDFs.



#1016 GMiranda

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 15:14

Thanks.... I didn't print things on TNF for a long time and I couldn't find any solution.



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Posted 19 August 2014 - 15:34

I see the "developers" are still at work, with the usual result. Kindle over the last couple of days does not show emoticons and defaults to mobile version at each turn on. Of course, the IE problems remain and presumably will continue to do so.

#1018 discover23

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 23:01

Any update with making the forums available via tapatalk?

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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:32

I post pictures regularly so know exactly how it's done. I am unable to post a picture in PM's, the picture will show in the preview but not in the sent message. The received message is blank with nothing to indicate a link. Is this problem exclusive to me or the norm? Oh, I was able to carry out this function prior to the upgrade.



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#1020 Allan Lupton

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 17:14

 

While the most noticeable change is the new design, the new forum is much more than a repainted version of the old one. Here are a few of the main points of the upgrade:

- The servers should now be able to cope better with periods of very high traffic. We don't want to give too many promises here as only a real life traffic peak will let us test this out, but we're more likely to be able to cope than we were before!

 

 

This morning around 10 a.m. the server(s) seemed unable to cope with the traffic - presumably generated by a F1 race in Japan. I suppose the fact that I can get in now to make this comment shows there was some success in the aim I quote above, but has this one of your objectives of 13 months ago been achieved?



#1021 Vitesse2

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 08:19

This morning around 10 a.m. the server(s) seemed unable to cope with the traffic - presumably generated by a F1 race in Japan. I suppose the fact that I can get in now to make this comment shows there was some success in the aim I quote above, but has this one of your objectives of 13 months ago been achieved?

There were problems on and off for about half an hour, in the immediate aftermath of Bianchi's crash, probably exacerbated by the fact that (I assume) the world feed stopped as scheduled at 10am UK time. BBC viewers still had red button coverage, but I guess a lot of people elsewhere were left in limbo? From what Suzi Perry was saying, I got the impression the BBC's Twitter feed had crashed too.



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Posted 06 October 2014 - 09:52

This morning around 10 a.m. the server(s) seemed unable to cope with the traffic - presumably generated by a F1 race in Japan. I suppose the fact that I can get in now to make this comment shows there was some success in the aim I quote above, but has this one of your objectives of 13 months ago been achieved?

 

Yesterday was one of the busiest days in the forum's history - the overall traffic levels were higher than our busy full days such as pre-season testing and the peak traffic levels were considerably higher than the servers have had to deal with after controversial events like Multi 21 or the crash between Hamilton and Rosberg at Spa a few weeks ago.

 

The spike of traffic we saw at 10:00 was on another level to the sort of traffic that used to send the forums offline before the upgrade. In fact, by around 12:00 we were still seeing the sort of traffic levels which would have sent our servers down for many hours before the rebuild, and the forum was working at around 99% (ie. less than 1% of attempted pageviews were causing an error message).

 

While we would love the forum to be even more reliable at high traffic levels, I think I can say that the main objective of the upgrade has been a qualified success. 

 

 

There were problems on and off for about half an hour, in the immediate aftermath of Bianchi's crash, probably exacerbated by the fact that (I assume) the world feed stopped as scheduled at 10am UK time. BBC viewers still had red button coverage, but I guess a lot of people elsewhere were left in limbo? From what Suzi Perry was saying, I got the impression the BBC's Twitter feed had crashed too.

 

The end of the TV coverage was a huge part of it, but it looks like we also had a lot of traffic from people who hadn't been watching the race live. Bianchi's accident was one of the main headlines on the (non-sporting) news around the world, meaning that an enormous number of people with an interest in F1 (or racing in general) who hadn't watched the race turned to the internet in the first few hours after the Grand Prix.



#1023 Allan Lupton

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 12:07

Thanks for that.

I had no idea it was such an important event when I posted what I did yesterday -  I had been half-heartedly watching yet another descent into a "pace car" non-event after an accident when they red-flagged it, so I switched off.



#1024 August

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Posted 17 October 2014 - 11:26

I wonder if it's the ã letter that causes problems with the Interlagos changes thread? At least with mobile devices. (Android with Chrome browser)

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 12:44

The political correctness implemented in the forum's software even prevents to show the correct names of real people:

Look at the link to see the full name of French rally driver Cédric *****-Revurat.



#1026 Allan Lupton

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 14:20

How does it cope with Scunthorpe, then?

Some PC systems can't. :mad:


Edited by Allan Lupton, 08 November 2014 - 14:21.


#1027 BRG

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 18:09

The political correctness implemented in the forum's software even prevents to show the correct names of real people:

Look at the link to see the full name of French rally driver Cédric *****-Revurat.

Political correctness that can't even spell, apparently.

 

Although why it should discriminate against the traditional and delicious British dish is a mystery....



#1028 Vitesse2

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:00

I believe some filters of this sort also include common - or deliberate - spelling mistakes in their databases. Some are more aggressive than others and will sometimes pick out parts of words to censor - either completely or partially. Scunthorpe is one of the oft-quoted examples, but I've seen one which turned the misspelled word 'vacum' to va***. And some years ago my ISP's spamnanny refused point-blank to send an email to a canal company. Because the very long email address contained the word anal. :rolleyes:

 

I have no idea whether we can edit the database, but that one does seem somewhat ridiculous!

 

Having said all that, when I tried testing it, I had no problem typing either Fagot-Revurat or Faggot-Revurat. Here or in TNF. As far as I'm aware mod privileges don't over-ride the swearing filters, so perhaps someone else - other than ReWind - would care to test it?



#1029 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:04

fagot is in the swear filter because bigots either cant spell or deliberately misspell faggot to get past the swear filter



#1030 Allan Lupton

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:15


Having said all that, when I tried testing it, I had no problem typing either *****-Revurat or ******-Revurat. Here or in TNF. As far as I'm aware mod privileges don't over-ride the swearing filters, so perhaps someone else - other than ReWind - would care to test it?

Cédric *****-Revurat

The above cut-and-paste from the linked site and ***** typed in directly.

 

 

ETA and look how it's interefered with the quoted original post!


Edited by Allan Lupton, 09 November 2014 - 12:17.


#1031 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:31

I believe some filters of this sort also include common - or deliberate - spelling mistakes in their databases. Some are more aggressive than others and will sometimes pick out parts of words to censor - either completely or partially. Scunthorpe is one of the oft-quoted examples, but I've seen one which turned the misspelled word 'vacum' to va***. And some years ago my ISP's spamnanny refused point-blank to send an email to a canal company. Because the very long email address contained the word anal. :rolleyes:
 
I have no idea whether we can edit the database, but that one does seem somewhat ridiculous!
 
Having said all that, when I tried testing it, I had no problem typing either *****-Revurat or ******-Revurat. Here or in TNF. As far as I'm aware mod privileges don't over-ride the swearing filters, so perhaps someone else - other than ReWind - would care to test it?


***** ****** **** Prick **** Arse Wank Scunthorpe Canal

Hmm, It's happy with ******, but not when written with the one 'g'. How strange, seeing that V2 got away with it. It doesn't like the 'c' word or the 'f' word.

#1032 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:39

that was odd, should be fixed now



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 12:43

A***n V***a

 

Yep.  Works fine.



#1034 Option1

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 13:13

I've become so well trained by swear filters that I tend to spell fvck that way by habit now.

 

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#1035 Vitesse2

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 13:29

Hmm, looks like mods can get away with swearing anywhere! I've just tested both the c-word and f-word here and both showed up in a post preview.

ETA and look how it's interefered with the quoted original post!

It does that in Paddock Club - which has no filter on original posts - too. The filter kicks in with the quote though.



#1036 ReWind

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 15:44

Still does NOT work there.



#1037 Vitesse2

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 16:21

Still does NOT work there.

I think you may find it's okay now. I went into the post to edit it for you and after three attempts and three SQL errors I think I've fixed it! It shows okay for me, anyway. Probably something to do with the length of the post and/or the complicated formatting.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:08

Thanks, Richard!

 

But the problem seems to persist: Cédric *****-Revurat. :well:



#1039 Vitesse2

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:54

Very odd!

 

I'm wondering if it's actually something to do with the whole phrase. At one point it was showing me some very odd code for the é in Cédric - which I normally type with Ctrl+e. I'm 99% sure it showed up as 'CÃ@dric' - a capiital A with tilde and an ampersand!



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#1040 Gilles4Ever

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 19:57

try it now



#1041 Tim Murray

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 20:14

Fagot-Revurat

 

:up:



#1042 ReWind

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 21:16

My turn:

Fagot-Revurat

 

At last.



#1043 BRG

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 22:51

Scunthorpe Canal

 

As a long-time gongoozler, I want to know more about this Scunthorpe Canal!



#1044 Allan Lupton

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 00:07


Having said all that, when I tried testing it, I had no problem typing either Fagot-Revurat or ******-Revurat. Here or in TNF. As far as I'm aware mod privileges don't over-ride the swearing filters, so perhaps someone else - other than ReWind - would care to test it?

It's still "correcting" that bit of Quoting but only when you spell ****** correctly and I've copied a bit of ReWind's linked stuff which I shall paste here:

1979 - Nov 04: Stewart Linn UKi dd rs rs
1979 - Nov 05: Cédric Fagot-Revurat Fra ew
1979 - Nov 05: Davide Medici Ita rb

 

See what it did with "f a g g o t"


Edited by Allan Lupton, 10 November 2014 - 00:09.


#1045 Allan Lupton

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 10:43

Seeing the é character in the above reminds me that I was going to bleat on about the way that thread titles often fall over when asked to include modified letters.

 

For example there's a thread called Werner B�hrer and his drawings which nevertheless can call him Werner Bührer in the posted text.

 

It's not just the German modifiers it can't cope with, as I thought it coped with French (as in another thread 1969 Formel Vau Népliget) but there's a thread called Fran�ois Cevert

 

Is it too much to hope that someone cares enough to fix this?

 

#1046 Vitesse2

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 13:10

I've just fixed the Bührer and Cevert threads, Allan. :)

 

I believe the problem was caused by the previous software, which had difficulties with diacritics like umlauts and cedillas in both titles and user names and simply replaced anything it couldn't cope with with that annoying symbol. Of course, the new software has no clue what is supposed to be!



#1047 Allan Lupton

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 14:57

Thanks - I didn't remember it from before last year's upset.

I wonder if it has the usual US-centric software inability to cope with a £ sign in some area somewhere.


Edited by Allan Lupton, 17 November 2014 - 14:59.


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 14:48

I can't quote others using the quote button, using IE11



#1049 Vitesse2

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Posted 27 November 2014 - 18:46

I can't quote others using the quote button, using IE11

http://forums.autosp...ed-workarounds/ :)