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[Snic]

Please rate the race objectively and not on your favourite drivers result

 

Best Driver

Worst Driver

Best Team

Best Overtake

Best Moment

DRS + Tyres

And the race in a sentence...

[stillOrange]

Best Driver Vettel and Alonso
Worst Driver Maldonado
Best Team RBR
Best Overtake Kimi's were good but Vettel on Hamilton stuck in my mind as I didn't expect it there and then
Best Moment No repeat of last year's start
DRS + Tyres On par
And the race in a sentence... Why no rain?

[spacekid]

I gave the race a 5.

 

DRS was far too over powering in my opinion. Most of the passes were done deals. I personally miss watching drivers battle over a sequence of laps, and overtaking meaning something at the end of it.

 

There was some ok action I guess, but DRS mutilated the racing for me.

[SR388]

Best Driver - Alonso

Worst Driver - GrowSean. His racecraft is terrible. I am not even talking about the stuff with him and Perez, that wasn't his fault. 

Best Team - Merc, tightest grouping?

Best Overtake- Anything Kimi did

Best Moment- When I fell asleep around lap 29. Reading Vettel fanboys freak out thinking people were booing him. It's sports, people boo. 

DRS + Tyres- Made no difference 

And the race in a sentence... - My driver didn't win, so it was dull. 

 

I gave it a very generous 4. Great drive by Vettel, but once he got around Lewis there was question of the outcome, and for me no tension.

Edited by SR388, 25 August 2013 - 17:01.

[AnR]

Best Driver            Fernando Alonso

Worst Driver          N/A

Best Team              Red Bull      

Best Overtake       Alonso on Hamilton, a delight to watch

Best Moment         Watching Alonsos first lap

DRS + Tyres          Ok

[Lucass]

Best Driver  Sebastian Vettel

Worst Driver  N/A

Best Team  Red Bull

Best Overtake Vettel on Hamilton and Kimi had some mighty overtakes too

Best Moment  Good fun but I've seen better

DRS + Tyres  OK

And the race in a sentence...  Red Bull and Vettel demonstrate again why they are just the best out there

[Winter98]

Best Driver - Vettel, honourable mention Alonso.

Best Team - Ferrari, so many people had written them off, but they are back at the top, and the most improved team imo over the break.  If FA had done better in qualy, he might have won.

Best Overtake - Vettel on Hamilton.  Bad line by LH, and boom goes the dynamite.

Best Moment - Vettel overtake on Hamilton

DRS + Tyres - They didn't define the race.

And the race in a sentence... - Comme si, comme sa.

Edited by Winter98, 25 August 2013 - 17:15.

[Nonesuch]

Rated it 7/10. Six points for the race itself, and an extra one for it being held at Spa-Francorchamps.

 

Best driver: Vettel and Alonso. The former had the better weekend, the latter the more impressive race.

Worst driver: Maldonado. As the group approached Blanchimont, you could just tell things were going to end in tears for someone.

Best team: Red Bull. The car is a rocket-ship, to use that old cliché, and the teamwork in the pits was flawless today.

Best overtake: Did Raikkonen overtake someone around the outside of the unnamed turn 11? That was pretty cheeky.

Best moment: The little battle between Alonso and Hamilton. The marshals also deserve a thumbs up for clearing out Di Resta's wreckage, preventing a safety car period.

DRS+Tyres: DRS is something I don't care for, and it'll never look anything other than gimmicky. The tyres seemed rather durable, which is good. The early radio message to Vettel to consolidate pace hinted at the situation being not much different from the start of the season, though.

 

The race in a sentence: Red Bull continues schooling the competition, but the Belgian beauty made it an interesting class.

[bub]

Best Driver - Alonso

Worst Driver - Maldonado

Best Team - Mercedes. Both cars in top 4.

Best Overtake - Sutil had some nice ones I think. Will have to rewatch.

Best Moment - Cars battling it out just before the diResta/Maldo crash.

DRS + Tyres - Tyres fine. DRS bad.

And the race in a sentence... Championship battle over.

[TomNokoe]

Best Driver Top 3 extracted maximum
Worst Driver Wasn't paying that much attention but I was angry at the 5 car group who crashed, totally pathetic.
Best Team Red Bull
Best Overtake .......... um
Best Moment yesterday...
DRS + Tyres nope
And the race in a sentence... Let's hope the rest of the season isn't as dull

Edited by TomNokoe, 25 August 2013 - 17:25.

[Winter98]

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The race in a sentence: Red Bull continues schooling the competition, but the Belgian beauty made it an interesting class.

 

 

Great comment! 

[Zoetrope]

Best Driver It's between Vettel and Alonso. The problem is that, in my opinion, their cars were fastest and 2nd fastest in race respectively, which was perfectly reflected by the race results - in other words, they extracted everything from the car. Alonso could do better in qualifying, but then again, he had some phenomenal moves during the race.
 

Worst Driver I had a good laugh at Chilton who said he will be racing anyone who is around him in the race and then he dropped down to dead last after lap 2
 

Best Team Red Bull. Great strategic call in qualifying and immense pace.
 

Best Overtake Alonso on Grosjean into Rivage
 

Best Moment ???
 

DRS + Tyres DRS seemed to be overkill. Tyres are robust, allowed to push.
 

And the race in a sentence... The race was missing the rain!

6/10

[Amin]

Best Driver Vettel

Worst Driver Chilton

Best Team Red Bull

Best Overtake Kimi on Perez

Best Moment The incident involving Maldonado, the 2 FI's and the 2 Sauber's

DRS + Tyres DRS was overkill; Tyres were fine

And the race in a sentence... Stale at the front but some good battles in the mid-field.

[Ricardo F1]

Absolutely dreadful.

[RC127]

I think Spa, Monza, Montreal and Interlagos should be nominated as gimmick races - with the gimmick being that there is NO DRS!!!!

 

I was at Knockhill today for the BTCC and the excitement of seeing the cars try to pass on the brakes into the hairpin was so exciting.  All DRS does is mean the pass is done halfway along the straight before the bloody hairpin!

 

DRS is killing the spectacle of Spa.

 

Sort it out F1

[rasul]

Rated 8/10: 10 for qualifying and 6 for the race, so 8 it is.

Best Driver:  Sebastian Vettel

Worst Driver:  N/A

Best Team:  Red Bull

Best Overtake: hmm, not sure, but let's say Vettel on Hamilton, since it was a cruicial overtake(and without DRS)

Best Moment:  Qualifying

DRS + Tyres:  DRS was overkill, tyres were fine.

And the race in a sentence...  Could have been better, but far from being the worst race of the season.

[st99]

The race wasn't the best of the season but it wasn't bad either.

In fact, I think it was very similar to the last year race here: the winner ran away at the start and the second came through the field with a lot of overtakes

[stanga]

Qualifying was exciting. The race pretty dull after about lap 3.

[AM14]

I gave the race a 5/10.

Best Driver: Vettel
Worst Driver: Maldonado
Best Team: Red Bull
Best Overtake: Alonso on Webber at the start
Best Moment: The first couple of laps for Alonso
DRS & Tyres: DRS not really needed, tyres were OK.
In a sentence: Some interesting moments but a pretty dull race and not good for the championship either.

[Blackmore]

Solid F1 race, gave it a 7. Nothing spectacular but it was back to old school F1 of the 90s-2000s. The best team/driver winning without a gimmicky lottery manipulating the outcome. DRS should have been disabled the entire race though, it killed some great fights.

 

The tyres did not dominate, so the teams, cars and drivers were on it. Doesn't mean they were pushing all the time, no era of F1 had pushing all the time. But they could when needed and without worrying if their tyres would explode, cruising around 3 seconds a lap slower than their car could.

 

Vettel did the same thing as Hamilton in Hungary (plus Vettel overtook the leader) so honest people would give him the exact same credit. Perfect drive. All this "Vettel won so it was boring by default" is a childish cop out.

 

We need Alonso to get some wins for this championship to stay interesting and Monza he should have a good shot at it with the Ferraris always strong there.

[Atreiu]

Putting the car where it should naturally have been on a track like Spa with an over generous DRS zone makes for a good, stellar drive, not the best one.

Button was the best driver, the McLaren remains a turd but it suddenly seemed almost respectable.

Perez was the worse, his squeezing of Grosjean was pure absent mindness. And he threw away a point finish while the team scraps for whatever can eventually help them best Force India in the WCC...

4, it was dull enough for me to turn to Moto3 and simply listen to F1.

[stobiesaur]

Gave the race a 7.  No real action at the front but plenty of action further through the pack

 

Best Driver: Three way tie between Vettel, Alonso & Ricciardo

Worst Driver: So many to chose from a lot of average driving on display.  Has to be Chilton for ignoring blue flags & getting a drive through

Best Team: Red Bull

Best Overtake: JEV on Hulkenburg I think it was pretty ballsy last sec dive

Best Moment: 4 way battle madness between Gut, Mal, Sut & Dir

DRS + Tyres: Worked well not too powerful & tyres didn't dominate the race

And the race in a sentence...  Plenty of action through the pack which didn't get covered but race got let down big time by domination at the front

[scheivlak]

 

 

Rated it 7/10. Six points for the race itself, and an extra one for it being held at Spa-Francorchamps.

 

Best driver: Vettel and Alonso. The former had the better weekend, the latter the more impressive race.

Worst driver: Maldonado. As the group approached Blanchimont, you could just tell things were going to end in tears for someone.

Best team: Red Bull. The car is a rocket-ship, to use that old cliché, and the teamwork in the pits was flawless today.

Best overtake: Did Raikkonen overtake someone around the outside of the unnamed turn 11? That was pretty cheeky.

Best moment: The little battle between Alonso and Hamilton. The marshals also deserve a thumbs up for clearing out Di Resta's wreckage, preventing a safety car period.

DRS+Tyres: DRS is something I don't care for, and it'll never look anything other than gimmicky. The tyres seemed rather durable, which is good. The early radio message to Vettel to consolidate pace hinted at the situation being not much different from the start of the season, though.

 

The race in a sentence: Red Bull continues schooling the competition, but the Belgian beauty made it an interesting class.

 

+1

 

[SCEPurple]

Rated the race 3/10 as it was below average for a race at Spa in my eyes and an extra point docked for its effect on the championship and the let down factor of it being the first race after a long wait.

 

Best Driver

- Vettel/Alonso. As usual, Alonso's start was terrific and he certainly got the highest his car was capable of. Vettel was peerless though.

 

Worst Driver

- Maldonado. His incident with the Force Indias was idiotic.

 

Best Team

- No team stood out more than others, but I suppose Red Bull.

 

Best Overtake

- There was some good action in the midfield around Blanchimont/Eau Rouge, but I can't remember the drivers involved now. Edit: It was Sutil on Gutierez

 

Best Moment

- When it finished. The race was boring.

 

DRS + Tyres

- DRS probably not necessary. Tyres were fine really, no blowouts and lasted fine for everyone.

 

And the race in a sentence...

- Severely in need of rain and poor for the championship for non-Vettel supporters.

Edited by SCEPurple, 26 August 2013 - 22:51.

[Brother Fox]

It was an uneventful race. If it had taken place in India or Korea you'd be hearing howls of 'tear it up' and 'another Tilke disaster'

People need to revisit this thread later to realise that even great tracks can produce uneventful (trying not to use the word boring) races.

[Kelateboy]

Best Driver - Sebastian Vettel

Worst Driver - Pastor Maldonado

Best Team - Red Bull & Mercedes - no cockup

Best Overtake - Vettel on Hamiton at Eau Rouge

Best Moment - When the podium girls were sprayed with champagne

And the race in a sentence... - Could be better, but I give it an 8.

[kor]

 

Best Driver - Sebastian Vettel

Worst Driver - Pastor Maldonado

Best Team - Red Bull & Mercedes - no cockup

Best Overtake - Vettel on Hamiton at Eau Rouge

Best Moment - When the podium girls were sprayed with champagne

And the race in a sentence... - Could be better, but I give it an 8.

[Shiroo]

it was pretty dull race. After 5th lap you could guess Top 3 guys. 

 

Best Driver - Sebastian Vettel (honorable mentions to VDG and Ricciardo)

Worst Driver - Pastor Maldonado (well he was at fault at the incident)

Best Team - Red Bull

Best Overtake - Vettel on Hamilton

Best Moment - hmm car incident, sorry but the race itself was pretty plain

And the race in a sentence - It was even more boring than Valencia itself, didn't expect that.

[tifosiMac]

I had to give this one a 3 out of 10. I thought overall it was rather dull from a spectators point of view sadly as I love the Belgian GP usually.

 

Hamilton sitting on the table in the pre podium room and realising it was creaking, with potential to collapse under his weight was a particular highlight for me.

[rjsports]

Best Driver: Vettel (honourable mentions to Alonso and Van der Garde)

Worst Driver: Maldonado, Grosjean and Perez

Best Team: Red Bull

Best Overtake: One that didn't included DRS

Best Moment: Qualifying

And the race in a sentence... A bit boring, and we missed the rain. 

[Owen]

3 out of 10. Normally Spa gives us a good race.

[Disgrace]

It was an uneventful race. If it had taken place in India or Korea you'd be hearing howls of 'tear it up' and 'another Tilke disaster'

People need to revisit this thread later to realise that even great tracks can produce uneventful (trying not to use the word boring) races.

 

That is a seperate issue, in my opinion. Although the race itself was rubbish, I still enjoyed the spectacle of the cars driving around great corners. Flat corners like Blanchimont/Curva Grande and windy "straights" are easy tricks Tilke completely neglects that make cars look great on the TV. An equally rubbish parade around a carpark will also look rubbish. It's the same reason I can more readily forgive Monaco for producing poor racing, as fast cars racing in narrow streets has always been cool.

 

Also, I thought the race was terrible indirectly because it is a great circuit that naturally lends itself to overtaking. It's on these circuits that DRS spoils not just some, but all of the action. That's a problem with the sport, rather than the circuit.

Edited by Disgrace, 27 August 2013 - 10:59.

[nosecone]

Best Driver - Alonso, Vettel, Button

Worst Driver - Maldonado

Best Team - RB

Best Overtake - All without DRS in the final chicane

 

Best Moment - Maldonado getting a penalty which does nothing to him

 

DRS + Tyres - Tyres fine but DRS . Now the drivers are forced to let others pass because they would be out-DRSed if not. Wow

 

And the race in a sentence... Vettel 4times WDC since he was able to drive the fastest lap easily on old tyres

Edited by nosecone, 27 August 2013 - 11:14.

[Lambo]

Best Driver           Alonso (moved his way up to the front)

Worst Driver         Webber (miles off his team mate in a car which was the class of the field)

Best Team            Mercedes (best joint result)

Best Overtake      none - too many easy overtakes due to DRS

Best Moment        all three qualifying sessions

DRS + Tyres          DRS too much/ tyres didn't factor which is good

And the race in a sentence...needed the rain

[HoldenRT]

5/10, quite dull.

[scheivlak]

 

Best Overtake      none - too many easy overtakes due to DRS

 

So what did think of the other ones, those without DRS?

You don't appreciate them either?

[Shiroo]

i disagree with DRS. For example Hamilton couldn't do a **** with DRS even vs Alonso. Similar few other drivers couldn't do anything vs their opponent.

DRS first of all allow naturally faster cars and better drivers to be ahead instead of trailing someone for X laps.

[UPRC]

3/10. I turned the race off at half distance. I've only ever done this twice since ever watching F1, and both times have been this year. Bad sign.

 

FIA, Bernie, SOMEONE, do something about Red Bull walking the championships year after year! Please!

[spacekid]

That is a seperate issue, in my opinion. Although the race itself was rubbish, I still enjoyed the spectacle of the cars driving around great corners. Flat corners like Blanchimont/Curva Grande and windy "straights" are easy tricks Tilke completely neglects that make cars look great on the TV. An equally rubbish parade around a carpark will also look rubbish. It's the same reason I can more readily forgive Monaco for producing poor racing, as fast cars racing in narrow streets has always been cool.

 

Also, I thought the race was terrible indirectly because it is a great circuit that naturally lends itself to overtaking. It's on these circuits that DRS spoils not just some, but all of the action. That's a problem with the sport, rather than the circuit.

 

Completely agree - without DRS we would have had a race (throughout the field, maybe not for the win).

[Brother Fox]

FIA, Bernie, SOMEONE, do something about Red Bull walking the championships year after year! Please!

That would be the other teams responsibility.
RB are simply doing it consistently better at the moment, and that is the worst reason for some sort of rule change.

[Buttoneer]

I voted 7.  The race might not have been a complete knock-out but the entertainment we got from qualifying more than made up for that and the joy carried over into the next day and helped prop the race up by a point or so.

 

Alonso was spectacular, Perez was dumb, the stewards inconsistent, and the forum software held up.  Pretty good weekend all round.