Rate the Belgian GP!
#1
Posted 25 August 2013 - 16:41
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#2
Posted 25 August 2013 - 16:51
Worst Driver Maldonado
Best Team RBR
Best Overtake Kimi's were good but Vettel on Hamilton stuck in my mind as I didn't expect it there and then
Best Moment No repeat of last year's start
DRS + Tyres On par
And the race in a sentence... Why no rain?
#3
Posted 25 August 2013 - 16:56
I gave the race a 5.
DRS was far too over powering in my opinion. Most of the passes were done deals. I personally miss watching drivers battle over a sequence of laps, and overtaking meaning something at the end of it.
There was some ok action I guess, but DRS mutilated the racing for me.
#4
Posted 25 August 2013 - 16:59
Edited by SR388, 25 August 2013 - 17:01.
#5
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:01
#6
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:11
#7
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:12
Edited by Winter98, 25 August 2013 - 17:15.
#8
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:19
#9
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:23
#10
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:25
Worst Driver Wasn't paying that much attention but I was angry at the 5 car group who crashed, totally pathetic.
Best Team Red Bull
Best Overtake .......... um
Best Moment yesterday...
DRS + Tyres nope
And the race in a sentence... Let's hope the rest of the season isn't as dull
Edited by TomNokoe, 25 August 2013 - 17:25.
#11
Posted 25 August 2013 - 17:31
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The race in a sentence: Red Bull continues schooling the competition, but the Belgian beauty made it an interesting class.
Great comment!
#12
Posted 25 August 2013 - 18:02
6/10
#13
Posted 25 August 2013 - 19:00
#14
Posted 25 August 2013 - 19:26
Absolutely dreadful.
#15
Posted 25 August 2013 - 19:46
I think Spa, Monza, Montreal and Interlagos should be nominated as gimmick races - with the gimmick being that there is NO DRS!!!!
I was at Knockhill today for the BTCC and the excitement of seeing the cars try to pass on the brakes into the hairpin was so exciting. All DRS does is mean the pass is done halfway along the straight before the bloody hairpin!
DRS is killing the spectacle of Spa.
Sort it out F1
#16
Posted 25 August 2013 - 20:13
#17
Posted 25 August 2013 - 20:16
The race wasn't the best of the season but it wasn't bad either.
In fact, I think it was very similar to the last year race here: the winner ran away at the start and the second came through the field with a lot of overtakes
#18
Posted 25 August 2013 - 20:17
Qualifying was exciting. The race pretty dull after about lap 3.
#19
Posted 25 August 2013 - 21:21
Best Driver: Vettel
Worst Driver: Maldonado
Best Team: Red Bull
Best Overtake: Alonso on Webber at the start
Best Moment: The first couple of laps for Alonso
DRS & Tyres: DRS not really needed, tyres were OK.
In a sentence: Some interesting moments but a pretty dull race and not good for the championship either.
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#20
Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:14
Solid F1 race, gave it a 7. Nothing spectacular but it was back to old school F1 of the 90s-2000s. The best team/driver winning without a gimmicky lottery manipulating the outcome. DRS should have been disabled the entire race though, it killed some great fights.
The tyres did not dominate, so the teams, cars and drivers were on it. Doesn't mean they were pushing all the time, no era of F1 had pushing all the time. But they could when needed and without worrying if their tyres would explode, cruising around 3 seconds a lap slower than their car could.
Vettel did the same thing as Hamilton in Hungary (plus Vettel overtook the leader) so honest people would give him the exact same credit. Perfect drive. All this "Vettel won so it was boring by default" is a childish cop out.
We need Alonso to get some wins for this championship to stay interesting and Monza he should have a good shot at it with the Ferraris always strong there.
#21
Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:26
Button was the best driver, the McLaren remains a turd but it suddenly seemed almost respectable.
Perez was the worse, his squeezing of Grosjean was pure absent mindness. And he threw away a point finish while the team scraps for whatever can eventually help them best Force India in the WCC...
4, it was dull enough for me to turn to Moto3 and simply listen to F1.
#22
Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:38
#23
Posted 26 August 2013 - 21:55
Rated it 7/10. Six points for the race itself, and an extra one for it being held at Spa-Francorchamps.Best driver: Vettel and Alonso. The former had the better weekend, the latter the more impressive race.Worst driver: Maldonado. As the group approached Blanchimont, you could just tell things were going to end in tears for someone.Best team: Red Bull. The car is a rocket-ship, to use that old cliché, and the teamwork in the pits was flawless today.Best overtake: Did Raikkonen overtake someone around the outside of the unnamed turn 11? That was pretty cheeky.Best moment: The little battle between Alonso and Hamilton. The marshals also deserve a thumbs up for clearing out Di Resta's wreckage, preventing a safety car period.DRS+Tyres: DRS is something I don't care for, and it'll never look anything other than gimmicky. The tyres seemed rather durable, which is good. The early radio message to Vettel to consolidate pace hinted at the situation being not much different from the start of the season, though.The race in a sentence: Red Bull continues schooling the competition, but the Belgian beauty made it an interesting class.
+1
#24
Posted 26 August 2013 - 22:47
Edited by SCEPurple, 26 August 2013 - 22:51.
#25
Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:37
It was an uneventful race. If it had taken place in India or Korea you'd be hearing howls of 'tear it up' and 'another Tilke disaster'
People need to revisit this thread later to realise that even great tracks can produce uneventful (trying not to use the word boring) races.
#26
Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:38
#27
Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:51
Best Driver - Sebastian VettelWorst Driver - Pastor MaldonadoBest Team - Red Bull & Mercedes - no cockupBest Overtake - Vettel on Hamiton at Eau RougeBest Moment - When the podium girls were sprayed with champagneAnd the race in a sentence... - Could be better, but I give it an 8.
#28
Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:29
it was pretty dull race. After 5th lap you could guess Top 3 guys.
Best Driver - Sebastian Vettel (honorable mentions to VDG and Ricciardo)
Worst Driver - Pastor Maldonado (well he was at fault at the incident)
Best Team - Red Bull
Best Overtake - Vettel on Hamilton
Best Moment - hmm car incident, sorry but the race itself was pretty plain
And the race in a sentence - It was even more boring than Valencia itself, didn't expect that.
#29
Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:50
I had to give this one a 3 out of 10. I thought overall it was rather dull from a spectators point of view sadly as I love the Belgian GP usually.
Hamilton sitting on the table in the pre podium room and realising it was creaking, with potential to collapse under his weight was a particular highlight for me.
#30
Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:21
#31
Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:10
3 out of 10. Normally Spa gives us a good race.
#32
Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:51
It was an uneventful race. If it had taken place in India or Korea you'd be hearing howls of 'tear it up' and 'another Tilke disaster'
People need to revisit this thread later to realise that even great tracks can produce uneventful (trying not to use the word boring) races.
That is a seperate issue, in my opinion. Although the race itself was rubbish, I still enjoyed the spectacle of the cars driving around great corners. Flat corners like Blanchimont/Curva Grande and windy "straights" are easy tricks Tilke completely neglects that make cars look great on the TV. An equally rubbish parade around a carpark will also look rubbish. It's the same reason I can more readily forgive Monaco for producing poor racing, as fast cars racing in narrow streets has always been cool.
Also, I thought the race was terrible indirectly because it is a great circuit that naturally lends itself to overtaking. It's on these circuits that DRS spoils not just some, but all of the action. That's a problem with the sport, rather than the circuit.
Edited by Disgrace, 27 August 2013 - 10:59.
#33
Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:59
Edited by nosecone, 27 August 2013 - 11:14.
#34
Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:41
#35
Posted 27 August 2013 - 14:31
5/10, quite dull.
#36
Posted 27 August 2013 - 16:55
Best Overtake none - too many easy overtakes due to DRS
So what did think of the other ones, those without DRS?
You don't appreciate them either?
#37
Posted 27 August 2013 - 18:08
i disagree with DRS. For example Hamilton couldn't do a **** with DRS even vs Alonso. Similar few other drivers couldn't do anything vs their opponent.
DRS first of all allow naturally faster cars and better drivers to be ahead instead of trailing someone for X laps.
#38
Posted 27 August 2013 - 19:41
3/10. I turned the race off at half distance. I've only ever done this twice since ever watching F1, and both times have been this year. Bad sign.
FIA, Bernie, SOMEONE, do something about Red Bull walking the championships year after year! Please!
#39
Posted 27 August 2013 - 19:56
That is a seperate issue, in my opinion. Although the race itself was rubbish, I still enjoyed the spectacle of the cars driving around great corners. Flat corners like Blanchimont/Curva Grande and windy "straights" are easy tricks Tilke completely neglects that make cars look great on the TV. An equally rubbish parade around a carpark will also look rubbish. It's the same reason I can more readily forgive Monaco for producing poor racing, as fast cars racing in narrow streets has always been cool.
Also, I thought the race was terrible indirectly because it is a great circuit that naturally lends itself to overtaking. It's on these circuits that DRS spoils not just some, but all of the action. That's a problem with the sport, rather than the circuit.
Completely agree - without DRS we would have had a race (throughout the field, maybe not for the win).
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#40
Posted 28 August 2013 - 00:01
FIA, Bernie, SOMEONE, do something about Red Bull walking the championships year after year! Please!
That would be the other teams responsibility.
RB are simply doing it consistently better at the moment, and that is the worst reason for some sort of rule change.
#41
Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:18
I voted 7. The race might not have been a complete knock-out but the entertainment we got from qualifying more than made up for that and the joy carried over into the next day and helped prop the race up by a point or so.
Alonso was spectacular, Perez was dumb, the stewards inconsistent, and the forum software held up. Pretty good weekend all round.