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#1 Lotus11Register

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:20

This is a superb 30-minute look into the past:

 

 

 

Too good to be missed.


Edited by Lotus11Register, 26 August 2013 - 12:22.


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#2 Lotus72b

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:57

I just seen the video crazy & great stuff.



#3 sergeym

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:58

Lack of safety measures seems shocking compared to current F1. Basically no barriers, spectators standing just a few meters from passing cars.


Edited by sergeym, 26 August 2013 - 07:29.


#4 Alan Cox

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:33

Already quite a bit of discussion about this on the YouTube thread...

 

http://forums.autosp...44#entry6399601

 



#5 Sharman

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:06

Lack of safety measures seems shocking compared to current F1. Basically no barriers, spectators standing just a few meters from passing cars.

Not shocking at all to those of us who were around at the time.



#6 nicanary

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:15

Not shocking at all to those of us who were around at the time.

Quite so. Only one dog on the track - at Buenos Aires there used to be a whole menagerie, plus half the crowd. Love the patrons outside the cafe being "protected" by straw bales.

 

As I remarked on another forum - Farina sits on the pit-counter just before the start and SMILES at the camera - is this a "first" ? And what about the water-filled ditch on the outside at La Carriere? Different times.



#7 taylov

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:27

Interesting view looking back from La Source hairpin (4.15).  Little changed from the photos of 1939.

 

The trees to the left of the shot (on the right as the cars passed the Clubhouse/Seaman curve) are where Archie Scott Brown crashed in the 1958 Spa Sports Car race with such tragic consequences.

 

Within weeks of the fatal accident the Spa organisers had installed a Armco style barrier all the way down to the hairpin in time for the next Grand Prix.  Their imagination sadly did not extend to the wire fences than can be seen all round the circuit in this film and which were to have such tragic results in 1960.

 

Tony


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#8 David M. Kane

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 19:52

I say bring back the good old days! Fantastic stuff Shell, I don't care what Greenpeace says...



#9 Coral

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 23:09

I say bring back the good old days! Fantastic stuff Shell, I don't care what Greenpeace says...

 

Oh, same here! I watched the 1955 race and I thought it was fantastic. The sponsors..."Englebert Tyres?!" :lol:  Also, did anyone see the 1958 Spa race which was shown later? I loved that one too. It was funny to see a "pre-race parade" with drivers such as Brabham and Hill taking part. Tony Brooks won that one.

 

I would love to have been around in the 1950s...the races looked so much more interesting (though obviously far more dangerous)!



#10 Sharman

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:00

Oh, same here! I watched the 1955 race and I thought it was fantastic. The sponsors..."Englebert Tyres?!" :lol:  Also, did anyone see the 1958 Spa race which was shown later? I loved that one too. It was funny to see a "pre-race parade" with drivers such as Brabham and Hill taking part. Tony Brooks won that one.

 

I would love to have been around in the 1950s...the races looked so much more interesting (though obviously far more dangerous)!

Not only that, we had Jenks reporting them. Even if you weren't there you knew what it was all about.



#11 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 13:03

:lol:

 

I would love to have been around in the 1950s...the races looked so much more interesting (though obviously far more dangerous)!

 

Yes they were wonderful times. They were too often tragic, but thats how the sport was, and people accepted the challenges and dangers (spectators included!).

And those races usually lasted three hours or so!. :cool: .



#12 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 13:33

As I remarked on another forum - Farina sits on the pit-counter just before the start and SMILES at the camera - is this a "first" ? And what about the water-filled ditch on the outside at La Carriere? Different times.

 

And pretty happy at the prize giving, after what was the last great drive of a great career.



#13 Geoff E

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 19:46

" ... the S-bend of Eau Rouge ..." 

 

I didn't think we were allowed to say that. :well:



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 00:12

A wonderful film for many reasons; the cars, the racing, the people, the clothes and the 1950s way of life.

 

I have watched it several times and I seem to find something new each time.

 

It's fun to play "Spot the person"; there are countless opportunities but these vignettes are typical;

 

A reporter in the midst of the action;

 

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and three happy people sharing a joke;

 

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#15 David Birchall

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:48

Wonderful piece of Nostalgia!

I saw Jenks and Alf Francis but I also thought I saw Phil Hill?



#16 plannerpower

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:31

I think that this is Phil Hill (in cap);

 

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Others with better face-recognition skills than I have may comment. 

 

The fellow on his left, with the lop-sided bow tie, gives me an "I know that face" feeling but I can't place him; similarly for the bloke with the white scarf in the second Jenks photo.

 

The seldom-photographed Jano is seen with his Lancia;

 

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This Mercedes mechanic may be wondering where the draught is coming-from;

 

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#17 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:19

I think that this is Phil Hill (in cap);

 

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I think it's Behra in the cap.  Rosier on the left.

 

Vince H.

 



#18 Gary C

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:27

'a reporter in the midst of the action'..............is none other than Jenks & in the 2nd photo, Alf Francis on the right (back to camera and turned to the right).



#19 plannerpower

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 05:50

You are correct Vince; I looked at the later footage showing Behra's car change and it's definitely him.



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#20 David McKinney

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:07

Is the bloke with the bow tie Perdisa?



#21 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:45

Is the bloke with the bow tie Perdisa?

 

David, I think that the chap on the right of the picture in the striped sweater is Cesare Perdisa.  

 

I am really surprised that there could be any doubts about Jean Behra's identity!.

 

Wasnt that an inpired  pole position lap by Castellotti, just a few days after the death of Alberto Ascari?.



#22 David McKinney

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:52

So is that Musso in the bow tie? Looks very much like Marimón, which of course it can't be 



#23 taylov

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:33

As I remarked on another forum - Farina sits on the pit-counter just before the start and SMILES at the camera - is this a "first" ? And what about the water-filled ditch on the outside at La Carriere? Different times.

 

And pretty happy at the prize giving, after what was the last great drive of a great career.

 

Found this page of images of Farina on Google and, hey, he did smile - at least once a year.

 

http://www.google.co...a&tbm=isch&um=1



#24 nicanary

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:17

Found this page of images of Farina on Google and, hey, he did smile - at least once a year.

 

http://www.google.co...a&tbm=isch&um=1

I have modified my mental picture of the Dottore - he no longer scowls. You still wouldn't have got in his way on the track, though.



#25 Lotus11Register

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 13:26

I have modified my mental picture of the Dottore - he no longer scowls. You still wouldn't have got in his way on the track, though.

On the grid at 13:33 Farina wears a more typical look. "Just TRY getting around me, bub."



#26 LittleChris

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 18:58


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Is that Bernard Cahier in the dodgy titfer ?

 

 



#27 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 05:55

Is that Bernard Cahier in the dodgy titfer ?

 

I think it is.  So that would be two reporters in that photo.

 

Vince H.

 

 

 



#28 Eric Dunsdon

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:11

 

Is that Bernard Cahier in the dodgy titfe

 

Vince H.

 

No!.