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#1 Joe Bosworth

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 18:36

I see where CAMS in their utter wisdom has cut Formula Ford from their national series programmes.

 

What path does that leave any ambitious young drivers?

 

Does that end Australian drivers succeeding on the international stage?

 

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#2 mnmracer

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 18:45

I heard they're introducing Formula Renault 1600.



#3 willini

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 23:21

As an open wheeler fan  I hope they do something, because this is a disaster for guys with aspirations to get to F1.  Drivers here already think the pinnacle is v8 Supercars..... While they are apparently going to retain state level Formula Ford, it would be a massive jump to then go to Europe to race.  CAMS are saying that since the withdrawal of funding by Ford for the series that it is too expensive to manage.  I hope your rumour about Formula Renault is correct but unless Renault would be financially supporting this I can't see it happening.



#4 lustigson

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:31

I read the headline, too.

 

Sounds to me that the influx of more or less commercially-exploited lower-tier racing categories — e.g. Euro F3, at the cost of British F3, and GP3 at the cost of almost everything at that level — are influencing the entry-level categories as well. I remember seeing something about Formula Ford in general being in a troublesome state, not just Oz.

 

If there is going to be a Formula Renault 1600 replacement, then that's a reasonable alternative, I'd say... although they might want to consider having a wing-less variant of the cars to tap into Formula Ford's long-standing achievements. After all, where are young drivers going to learn, dare I say, proper car control that's not influenced by the use of wings?



#5 mnmracer

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:34

If there is going to be a Formula Renault 1600 replacement, then that's a reasonable alternative, I'd say... although they might want to consider having a wing-less variant of the cars to tap into Formula Ford's long-standing achievements. After all, where are young drivers going to learn, dare I say, proper car control that's not influenced by the use of wings?

Although, unless you're the next Grosjean or Maldonado, learning car control not influenced by wings is not really a skill that is of much use in the later Formula classes.



#6 lustigson

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 12:55

... learning car control not influenced by wings is not really a skill that is of much use in the later Formula classes.

 

Well, if you put it that way, this has harly been the case for the past, say, 40 years... which makes it rather miraculous that Formula Ford even survived this long.   :rolleyes:  :D



#7 mnmracer

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 13:29

Well, if you put it that way, this has harly been the case for the past, say, 40 years... which makes it rather miraculous that Formula Ford even survived this long.   :rolleyes:  :D

Just saying it doesn't necessarily have to do with wings or not.

BTW, almost forgot, but there's still Formula Vee.

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#8 Thomas99

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:02

Formula Ford teaches a basic understanding of mechanical setup and how it influences car behavior. Which allows them to build on this base knowledge with aero setup.



#9 lustigson

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 14:49

Formula Ford teaches a basic understanding of mechanical setup and how it influences car behavior. Which allows them to build on this base knowledge with aero setup.

 

What he said.

 

Exactly why I suggested that Formula Renault 1600 should want to have a wing-less car if it were to act as a Formula For replacement.



#10 BRG

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 19:30

Well, we're in trouble in the UK then, because Formula Ford is now a slicks and wings formula so where will ambitious Pommie drivers go?  Or is the whole rationale for a wingless series no longer valid?  After all, the youngsters have all had ten years in wingless karts to learn car control.



#11 Sardukar

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:08

Pretty much all open wheel series cars up to something like star mazda or F3 aren't as grippy as people might think. Even though they have aero they are still very dependant on mechanical grip and slide around a lot.



#12 Jimisgod

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Posted 30 August 2013 - 12:55

How many Aussie FF champions made it to Europe for full time drives in the past decade?

Many went to V8 drives, Power went to Indycar...