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[Peter Morley]

I know we've had a similar thread before, but not in detail...

 

Someone asked me which individual F1 chassis has won the most races and I've come up with the following list:

 

Ferrari 500-05 won 11 (over 2 seasons = 5 + 6)

Tyrrell 003 won 8 (over 2 seasons = 6 + 2)

Lotus 72-5 won 8 (over 4 seasons = 1 + 5 + 1 + 1)

Lotus 25 R4 won 7 (+ 1 non-championship)

Benetton B195-6 won 7

Ferrari F2004-239 won 7

Red Bull RB7-03 (Kinky Kylie!) won 7

Lotus 72-7 won 6 (over 2 seasons = 4 + 2)

Williams FW14-8 won 6

Brawn BGP 001-02 won 6

McLaren MP4/2-1 won 5

McLaren MP4/2-2 won 5

Ferrari F2002-221 won 5

Ferrari F2004-234 won 5

MP4/4-05 won 4

 

I assume there are other recent cars that might have won 5 (maybe 6) races (due to the reliability rules and more races) but are there any other chassis that have won 6 or more GPs?

 

Peter

 

[Andretti Fan]

Per Oldracingcars.com, Lotus 72/R3 won a total of 22 races. Of course non of these were WC Grand Prixs, but it's still an impressive total for a single chassis.

[Peter Morley]

Per Oldracingcars.com, Lotus 72/R3 won a total of 22 races. Of course non of these were WC Grand Prixs, but it's still an impressive total for a single chassis.

 

I had seen that but really need to stick to WC GPs otherwise it becomes unmanageable...

[RA Historian]

 

... individual F1 chassis...

 

Ferrari 500-05 won 11 (over 2 seasons = 5 + 6)

Of course the Ferrari 500 was not a F-1 car, but rather a F-2 car. That puts Tyrrell 003 and Lotus 72-5 into the lead.

 

(You knew somebody would bring this up...)

[arttidesco]

I have a recollection of reading somewhere, in period, that Pat Symonds claimed Alonso used the same Renault chassis throughout 2006, not sure how or where one might verify that.

Edited by arttidesco, 15 September 2013 - 23:56.

[Victor_RO]

I have a recollection of reading somewhere, in period that, Pat Symonds claimed Alonso used the same Renault chassis throughout 2006, not sure how or where one might verify that.

 

http://www.f1technical.net/news/4406 says it was chassis R26-03 and it did indeed race for the full season in Alonso's hands claiming 7 wins.

[Peter Morley]

Of course the Ferrari 500 was not a F-1 car, but rather a F-2 car. That puts Tyrrell 003 and Lotus 72-5 into the lead.

 

(You knew somebody would bring this up...)

 

My admiration of Ferrari means I'd love to leave it out but it is the beginning of the Ferrari legend/myth (choose the word that suits your opinion of Ferrari)...

 

The Renault detail is appreciated - finding recent chassis numbers seems to be more difficult than older ones.

It's interesting that 7 wins in a season seems to be the maximum.

[arttidesco]

http://www.f1technical.net/news/4406 says it was chassis R26-03 and it did indeed race for the full season in Alonso's hands claiming 7 wins.

[jdfelter]

Ferrari 312T-023 won 6 over 2 seasons, 4 in 1975 and 2 in 1976 as a T2.  All with Lauda driving.

[Michael Ferner]

I'm pretty sure there were two different cars claiming the Lotus 72-R5 identity! Which neatly brings us to the dilemma of what constitutes an "individual chassis"...

[Peter Morley]

I'm pretty sure there were two different cars claiming the Lotus 72-R5 identity! Which neatly brings us to the dilemma of what constitutes an "individual chassis"...

 

I know what you mean but in this case it is the physical chassis rather than the chassis number that counts.

[arttidesco]

I'm pretty sure there were two different cars claiming the Lotus 72-R5 identity! Which neatly brings us to the dilemma of what constitutes an "individual chassis"...

 

I suppose the original would have been a bit smelly if Fittipaldi, Trimer, Walker, Ikcx, Crawford and Henton had all broken wind in the same tub, but seriously looking at oldracingcars.com 72/R5 reads 1 win in '70 (USA), 2 wins in '72 (Austria and Italy) and one win in '73 (Spain)  for 4 championship wins total. Then there were 4 non championship wins in '72 (Brands RoC, Vallelunga, and Brands 50k), another in the new tub for Ickx at Brands in'74 @-)

 

So 'keeping things manageable' 72/R5 should shirley be on 4 WC GP's not 8 ?

[RA Historian]

' 72/R5 should shirley be on 4 WC GP's not 8 ?

...and don't call me Shirley!

 

(with apologies to Frank Drebin)

[arttidesco]

...and don't call me Shirley!

 

(with apologies to Frank Drebin)

10/4 Tom

[Jon Saltinstall]

Ferrari 312T-023 won 6 over 2 seasons, 4 in 1975 and 2 in 1976 as a T2.  All with Lauda driving.

Chassis 023 remained a 312T into 1976 - it won in Brazil and South Africa. The 312T2 was not introduced until Spain (when the new regulations came into force) and is an entirely different monocoque. This was much lighter than the prior model, with aluminium internal framing instead if the previous steel as well as smaller fuel cell arrangements. Lauda featured in the Spanish race in 312T2/026 (having previously tried out 025 in the Race of Champions a few weeks earlier).