I'm sorry, I'm finding all this a bit nauseating.
Schumacher never fought for titles? Really? Michael was exactly like Senna in that regard - he fought damn hard for titles, and way over stepped the mark in the process. If Schumacher wasn't fighting for a title all through 1997 what the hell was he doing, waiting for it to be handed to him? What was he doing in 1998, twiddling his thumbs until Ferrari got their shit together?
Hamilton wants the challenge of winning in not the best car? So now he's at Merc? Really? It isn't just that the working relationship with McLaren soured to the point he wanted to be anywhere else but there?
I agree that Schumi was a real scrapper, as the examples you gave are accurate.
But Schumi does have a reputation (rightfully or wrongly) for ensuring he would have all the advantages so he would not have to fight on equal terms with teammates and other driver.
Eddie Irvine does dismiss these accusations as rubbish, so it is not all one way and you would think Irvine being as outspoken as he is would have a lot to say on the matter. Most fan, critic and driver polls do cite Senna as the best, something I greatly agree with. The largest polls among fans I saw F1 Fanatic had Senna voted number 1, with Schumi second. And Senna again won the largest drivers poll, with Schumi second. A large survey I saw that asked who was better out of Senna/Schumi had Senna with 63 percent and Schumi at 27, the rest thought they were equal (google it if you want to see it)
That said, it is entirely subjective. there is no real definitive answer. I value relative performances and my own personal observations, over the stats that Schumi produced, but I do not dismiss Schumi's WDC's entirely. I could write more but this has drifted greatly off topic.
Edited by sennafan24, 23 September 2013 - 23:11.